UFO CONSPIRICY "MARS". LIFE EVERYWHERE

gtfpv · 29-06-2007, 11:24 AM

BEEN DOING alittle research on you tube . type in "JOHN LEAR" UFO SECRETS . on you tube . there is a 12 part series each about 10 minutes long . about john lear the inventer of the lear jet. and he has broken 18 flight speed records and is 63 he has been in top secret for over 30 years .
if you want the shortened version . whatch clip , #1, #11 and #12.
extremely fascinating stuff , which will challange your mind. there are so many peope posting conspiricies like this to if you spend days searching . ufo's etc .
this guy says that when JFK , annonunced in 1962 , he wanted to send man to the moon , that we already had manned flights on the way to mars . with alian technology, we could already fly to the moon in 1 hour. he said that all the planets in our solar system has atmospheres and blue skys . venus is better than earth with the same population, and the humanoids are more advanced than us . he says that everything such as the space shuttle and mars rover all exist, but are there to divert attention, from our real technology.
he also states that we are farmed by superior aliens , and that greys, are bio robots crewated by them to monitor and abduct us, he also states that 1 in 10 people on earth are taken away from earth forever, and the govt does not know why, of the remaining 90% 1 in 10 of us are monitored every second of our lives, by them , and that all of our souls go to a data centre on the moon after we die. go to a supercomputor any way there is 120minutes of listening here . and many many more , stories from other so called secret agents etc etc ,

what i find amasing is this guy and many others are absolutely crazy, or we are living an illusion .
please investigate for yourselves if you are intersted in this stuff , and keep this thread going . it is UTTERLY FASCINATING , AND CHALLENGES YOUR MIND BEYOND BELIEF, I've spent hours and hours already watching and listening .

post your findings here .

flappist · 29-06-2007, 11:32 AM

Oh no, a glitch in the Matrix........

Lets see....
Super aliens that we can't detect abduct 10% of population while remaining covert and this guy knows about them and is publishing his findings and the aliens have not stopped or abducted him.....

Ah they probably can't catch him in his pre production V10 GTHO.....

gtfpv · 29-06-2007, 11:37 AM

i'm not offering an opinion on any of this . but we are seeing that many ufos on net clips / nad news now , with clear footage, yet no real explanation, an illusion, reality , or quacks everywhere . WHY ?

bathurst77 · 29-06-2007, 11:37 AM

A bloke called P Brock has broken many australian motor racing records, he won teh bathurst 1000, 9 times and a bathurst 24 hours. He made and sold improved cars for over 20 years in australia.
He said that if you stuck abox witha couple of stone chips a coil of wire some resin in it on a car yo could drive at 24psi tyre pressure and the car would be amazingly better in so many unmeasurable ways.

Even the best of us get it wrong sometimes

bathurst77 · 29-06-2007, 11:41 AM

"1 in 10 people on earth are taken away from earth forever,"

WEll I know hundreds of people, but I dont know of any who have been or who even know themselves anyone who has been "taken away from earth forever" or disappeared at all.
OK one bloke I know dissappeared, but he turned up a few weeks later with a blonde in QLD. And if you met his wife (or the blonde) you wouldnt be at all surprised!

gtfpv · 29-06-2007, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by bathurst77

A bloke called P Brock has broken many australian motor racing records, he won teh bathurst 1000, 9 times and a bathurst 24 hours. He made and sold improved cars for over 20 years in australia.
He said that if you stuck abox witha couple of stone chips a coil of wire some resin in it on a car yo could drive at 24psi tyre pressure and the car would be amazingly better in so many unmeasurable ways.

Even the best of us get it wrong sometimes

OF COURSE ' I'LL WATCH THIS THREAD WITH GREAT INTEREST!
cause my other thread on ghosts, lots of people hereon this forum claim to live with them at home , funny how people can believe this . and not this thread . i'll state that i've never seen a ghost or a UFO. and hope it stays that way for me, i like my simple life the way it is .

anyhow before questioning how about watching the clips, if your interested, because i could bag this as much as anyone , and would , too if someone else mad these mad assumptions . but it is FASCINATING MIND CHALLANGING .

gozza · 29-06-2007, 11:43 AM

Look up what a FooFighter Is...Fits right in with alien stuff

4.9 EF Futura · 29-06-2007, 12:22 PM

You've been delivng into some interesting areas gtfpv!

I think that some of the characters from "anytown" central USA have probably set the alian abductee movement back a few years. Perhaps if Al Gore made a film about abductions, it would get more credence in the public eye?

the_scotsman · 29-06-2007, 12:34 PM

Interesting theory...although I believe the exact opposite, that no one has ever stepped foot on the moon, let alone any other planet.

Keepleft · 29-06-2007, 12:35 PM

I saw a UFO, nobody believes me!
(Sounds like a hit).

One can search for 'cow abductions':-)

Jesk · 29-06-2007, 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by the_scotsman

Interesting theory...although I believe the exact opposite, that no one has ever stepped foot on the moon, let alone any other planet.

that does sound much more plausible

sexr6tasy · 29-06-2007, 01:27 PM

My theory is if idiot people can believe in god a supreme being and religion with absolutely no proof then anybody else can believe in aliens the tooth fairy , aluminum helmets that deflects gamma rays and the V10 GTHO will one day be UNLEASHED from its secret ford production holding facility.

BA_Turbs · 29-06-2007, 01:30 PM

The original post sounds like scientology.

I am a born cynic, and therefore, by default a sceptic as well.

BA_Turbs · 29-06-2007, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by gozza

Look up what a FooFighter Is...Fits right in with alien stuff

Just wiki'd it. Interesting read.

Foo Fighter on Wikipedia

gozza · 29-06-2007, 02:10 PM

This is interesting too

http://wanderling.tripod.com/la_ufo.html

kyro_02 · 29-06-2007, 02:14 PM

well if you believe we're the only ones in the whole universe... You probably should stop taking those drugs :P

XW 393 · 29-06-2007, 03:00 PM

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well if you believe we're the only ones in the whole universe...

What he said, it is near on stupid if you believe we are the only intelligent life in the entire universe, we dont even know how big it is.

robbo_yobbo · 29-06-2007, 04:02 PM

Well it sounds like john lears is a nut, and crackpots like that should not be allowed to watch the conspiracy channel, ledalone star on it. having said that, the possibilities of Alien life existing, far outweighs the chance that we're all there is to the universe. Do I believe all these other nuts that think they visit the earth and abduct people? NO!

Fact: People are real (most of them)

Highley Likeley: Aliens are real

Fact: Ghosts are not real

Unlikeley: Aliens visit earth, and UFO's are actualy alien spacecraft

Fact: Angels, Deamons, Supreme beings, Gods, and santa clause are not real (but st nick and jesus were - they just dont have superman powers).

Likeley: There are many different Alien lifeforms some of which are far less inteligent or capable than us, and some of which are far more intelligent and capable than us.

Fact: Man visited the moon, we do not have alien technology!

Likeley: The government(s) of the world probably have top secret offence/defence technology that people have spotted in testing thinking it is Alien UFO's

Fact: The tooth fairy is real, shes your mum, and I visited the tooth fairy last night. Say hi to her for me!

Nate07 · 29-06-2007, 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by sexr6tasy

My theory is if idiot people can believe in god a supreme being and religion with absolutely no proof then anybody else can believe in aliens the tooth fairy , aluminum helmets that deflects gamma rays and the V10 GTHO will one day be UNLEASHED from its secret ford production holding facility.

Prove that there is no god.

flappist · 29-06-2007, 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Nate07

Prove that there is no god.

Rick Kelly won the 2006 V8SC.......

Nostalgia · 29-06-2007, 04:54 PM

Prove that there is a God.

Nate07 · 29-06-2007, 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by EAadam

Prove that there is a God.

The Holy Bible...

DOC · 29-06-2007, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Nate07

Prove that there is no god.

It's the other way around, but then again we don't speak religion here, i am sure there are 100's of sites that deal with with this arguement.

However it were permitted to discuss this as adults here i would be more than happy to place up some questions / answers but in reality id think it would last 5 minutes

philstoj · 29-06-2007, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Nate07

Prove that there is no god.

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Originally Posted by flappist

Rick Kelly won the 2006 V8SC.......

Hahahaha!!

robbo_yobbo · 29-06-2007, 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Nate07

Prove that there is no god.

Now thats a question potentialy opening yourself up to insult..... I dont think you'll apreciate what I have to say if I expanded on this matter so Ill just leave it at the following...

with an argument/debate on any other subject, you normaly need to proove that something IS THERE, not the otherway around. and other than old wives tales and mythology, there is no proof supporting your case.

Otherwise we might aswell all say "proove that there is no Easter Bunny".
Now from your stance here, we have speculation and mythology to support that ester bunny exists, Does that mean the Easter Bunny lives?? ofcourse not!

sexr6tasy · 29-06-2007, 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Nate07

The Holy Bible...

Thanks for that ill look into it however my first post was that whole point you cant prove it you cant disprove it just like aliens and everything else its all about personal belief hence my first post and im afraid this guys got one up on ya hes been on tv! religion only wrote a book lmao now back on topic

sfr rob · 29-06-2007, 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by EAadam

Prove that there is a God.

What the hell does that statement have to do with this thread regarding UFO's & Aliens & that fruit loop Mr Lear?

Keep religion out of these threads, it just ends up in a thread being closed because we have soo many users here who get offended very easy.

This stuff here GTFPV sounds really wacked out, like someone has been smoking way too much crack. I would not be surprised if we (the public) are really a decade behind the secret service etc in the technology department at all!
But saying that we have other planets with super beings on it is just funny

get_an_ea_today · 29-06-2007, 05:08 PM

I would like to believe the whole venus thing cause that would be cool

but without any proof, its just to hard to believe.

Matt

robbo_yobbo · 29-06-2007, 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Nate07

The Holy Bible...

Yea right, Ive seen heeps of books on santa clause, the tooth fairy, the easter bunny.

Ive even seen books about elvis, curt cobain and 2pack all being alive.

That doesnt mean thier all true though. The "holy bible" is nothing more than a glorified comic book without the pictures, looseley (very loosley) based on a few real life events!

flappist · 29-06-2007, 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Nate07

The Holy Bible...

Be carefull....

AFF has seen the demise of many "Banned again Christians". Read the T&C.