GT-P Ad

[lukey]

The owner of Wheelking bought this car to get the wheels off but Ford won't sell him any more sets of wheels (GT-P 19") and this is his dig at FPV for not supplying him wheels

[Racecraft]

OMG the bricks look so dodgey

[MITCHAY]

LMFAO. Never want another one. I think hes an unhappy camper

Originally Posted by lukey

The owner of Wheelking bought this car to get the wheels off but Ford won't sell him any more sets of wheels (GT-P 19") and this is his dig at FPV for not supplying him wheels

Well that explains everything.

[paul7v7]

the guy sounds like a tool. of course FPV aren't going to keep supplying him with wheels if he keeps selling them. They're made only for the GTP's. He gets what he deserves and he deserves to be back at HSV.

[TheSneakiness]

That guy is a loser. He deserves to go back to f*ckin Holden.

In case you didn't notice, I'm having a personal vendetta against Holden drivers.

[LowEL2XR8]

Arent the wheels supposed to be exclusive to the GT-P? So he has tried to circumvent Ford by buying a car taking the wheels off and asking for more wheels for it, am I right?
Thats what it sounds like from lukeys post.

[XRated]

This has been posted before.. But what a complete ****er. I hope no one buys it and he loses out big time! It shits me to tears how people whinge and moan about a brand because of this type of thing.

[Polyal]

Where is this add from?

I think a few calls and emails will sort him out..lol Can anyone organise to flood his email account?

Good on FPV, what a tool, I bet the guy who brought the rims off him is laughing.

[paul7v7]

I fired off a quick email to FPV (I am sure they already know of it) with the details of this. If it is the case of him trying to scam FPV then he could have a law suit on his hands soon. As this pic makes the rounds on the net I am sure the reuputation of FPV will go down with it.

[Polyal]

I dont think FPV can do anything about it to be honest. They have done all they can do. Ok not everyone knows the background info into this, but if someone didn't tell me that he sold the wheels off then I still would of thought it is a tool.

I still dont understand why FPV wont sell him the wheels, they make a killing off them.

[flappist]

Originally Posted by Polyal

I still dont understand why FPV wont sell him the wheels, they make a killing off them.

Because quite simply the FPV range is exclusive, there should be no "copiies".

Do you think someone in their 100k GTS would be a smidgen ****ed when rice boy parks beside him in an IDENTICAL visually poffo commy V6 auto with an aftermarket kit.

There are many out there who mod their cars to show individuality or whatever and this is great, I have seen some excelent examples, but someone who buys a XR6 or XT and then changes it to look exactly like something it is not e.g. GT or F6 is not individual or creative thay are just a pretender trying to present a false image, sort of like the guy with the fake rolex, fake designer clobber from Bali, display non working mobile phone borrowed from a phone shop, 12 expired gold Amex cards and a pile of photocopied $100 bills in his wallet (I live at a tourist trap, these people actually exist)

I call those cars "Miriams" because although they look the part when you get up close and personal there is SOMETHING about Miriam......

[b2tf]

Originally Posted by flappist

Because quite simply the FPV range is exclusive, there should be no "copiies".

Do you think someone in their 100k GTS would be a smidgen ****ed when rice boy parks beside him in an IDENTICAL visually poffo commy V6 auto with an aftermarket kit.

There are many out there who mod their cars to show individuality or whatever and this is great, I have seen some excelent examples, but someone who buys a XR6 or XT and then changes it to look exactly like something it is not e.g. GT or F6 is not individual or creative thay are just a pretender trying to present a false image, sort of like the guy with the fake rolex, fake designer clobber from Bali, display non working mobile phone borrowed from a phone shop, 12 expired gold Amex cards and a pile of photocopied $100 bills in his wallet (I live at a tourist trap, these people actually exist)

I call those cars "Miriams" because although they look the part when you get up close and personal there is SOMETHING about Miriam......

I agree Flappist, the Miriam bit in particular :hihi:.

This ad is a repost but I do agree - people like this dont deserve to be driving GT-P's in the first place.

[rob_o]

Dont FPV's come with factory lock nuts anyway?

[Mike Gayner]

Oh yeah, this guy is such a tool. He's really screwing Ford over by paying $70,000+ for a brand new car and then wants to go and pull excessive amounts of money for a new set of wheels straight from Ford. Jeez, he's really trying to screw Ford, eh? :rolleyes:


Edit- Now that I look at the ad again it's fairly obvious that you guys have the wrong end of the stick. He says Ford can't supply new wheels "until June." Sounds to me like another case of Ford's pathetic customer service and waiting queues.

[Dodge]

i bet he got more for the wheels than ford wants for them, so he deserves to loose 10K on his car for trying to shaft ford, i might go push it off thoes house bricks

[Bossxr8]

Lets hope HSV cotton on to this scam and deny him replacement wheels too, then he'll be stuffed. I always wondered how he got a hold of these types of wheels just after the cars had been released.
Good to see it happen, at least FPV seem to be making an effort to keep some exclusivity to their cars, now if only they would stop people with non Boss powered cars from getting the buldged bonnets, and stop dealer fitted stripe packages to stop the tryhards from making pathetic GT clones. Not much they can do about aftermarket stripes though.

[Dez]

so you want them to stop AWC making bulge bonnets and BA GT kits? :

Do you think someone in their 100k GTS would be a smidgen ****ed when rice boy parks beside him in an IDENTICAL visually poffo commy V6 auto with an aftermarket kit.

and a 2 door chop :P

so this guy selling the GT-P owns wheelking? and bought the GT-P so that he would have GT-P rims to sell? is that right?

wouldnt that mean that people would have to be willing to pay ridiculous amounts for the set of wheels? if he has to pay the big bucks to get them from ford, and then add his % on to make a profit?

hope no one buys it, or that someone buys it for a ridiculously low price and he loses out big time

[b2tf]

I actually find it unlikely somebody would buy a car just to get the wheels from it and sell it, and from what I gather WheelKing can obtain GT and GTP wheels anyway so I dont see why he wouldnt put some of those on his own car?

That said, I reckon that'd be a great way to save yourself $$$ on a new GTP. Just drive it round on XR 18's until Ford get you the new ones, or go aftermarket, i could live with it.

[Dez]

slap on some of the ROH modena in black like jim boss or aussie pete! HORN!

thats the first thing i thought when i saw the pic of the GT-P wheel-less

[GlennBA]

who gives a shit imo.. i'd rather get some aftermarket wheels anyhow, probly better than what for has produced.

[Sundeep]

Mmmmmmmmmmmmm GTP dumped on stockies.....

Sundeep

[GlennBA]

Originally Posted by Sundeep

Mmmmmmmmmmmmm GTP dumped on stockies.....

Sundeep

they wouldn't fit, brembo's.

[BOFB]

I am the owner of the GT-P in Unique Cars. I have only lately visited the forums noted the various versions of what is supposed to have happened to the GT-P pictured. An absolute minority has chosen to call me a loser. The majority response has been to applaud it. It is now even clearer to me that FPV have many unsatisfied customers when it comes to customer relations. One only has to read through the forum to understand that.

Whether or not I am the owner of Wheel King at this is irrespective. The facts are as follows, I purchased the vehicle with the intention of having access to MkII GT-P rims for the purpose of resale. Nothing wrong or illegal about that intention and that same option remains open to anyone willing to part with their money.

I sold the wheels that came with the vehicle the same day I took delivery around December 20 2004. I ordered another set and did not get a full set until January 12 2005. Effectively it took over 3 weeks to get a replacement set. What if it was you that purchased the vehicle and your wheels through no fault of your own were damaged or stolen. Would you appreciate waiting 3 weeks plus over the Christmas break for your replacement wheels?

I sold the set that arrived in January 12, and yes, made a profit. That is not illegal and is the fundamental basis of all businesses. Ford would have made a profit when I purchased the vehicle and I am sure made a profit when I purchased each set of wheels as well as anything else I might purchase. The very forums you are on also must make a profit. It’s not a crime to make a profit.

After getting another set or two in February and many arguments with FPV’s customer relations department, I was told that the rims were on back order and would not be available to me until June 22. Again, how would you feel if that was your GT-P that may have had its wheels stolen or damaged by no fault of your own in February and you had to wait until June for replacements? As some of the unfounded comments have suggested, you too would feel like a loser.

The facts are as follows:

The GT-P advertisement does not say anywhere that the wheels were stolen. It merely emphasises the fact that the wheels will not be available to June. As a HSV owner I have never experienced the difficulties that FPV and Ford have presented to me, quite the opposite actually. To those who were offended because they made an incorrect assumption, I apologise.

If you or I wanted 1000 tail lamps, 500 dipsticks, 2000 right hand front guards, 60 boots, 321 left hand head lights, we could without restriction have order them tomorrow and no one would care. You don’t even need to own a Ford to do that.

I shelled out my hard earned money for a MkII GT-P for the main purpose of obtaining the wheels and can’t get any because of someone’s attitude at either FPV or Ford. I am disappointed and disgusted with FPV and Ford’s attitude. The ad is my personal protest which I have self funded and is more than most are prepared to do. I am still considering further campaigns to highlight my point, but by the response to date, I am sure that everyone is aware of the “GT-P in Unique Cars”.

What I have chosen to do is not a scam as may be suggested. If you feel the same after considering the above, I apologise for having stood up to a multinational company like Ford and highlighting their customer service inadequacies.

Anger on this issue would be better directed at the people who promote copy wheels. Wheel King despite what may be suggested in forums, under no circumstances deal in copy wheels or spacers, however there are plenty available in the market.

The sad fact is that many you guys on the forum have purchased these copy wheels thinking they are genuine at a bargain price. Currently there are copy EF, AU I, AU II, BA XR6 and XR8 wheels everywhere in the market place and Ford have done absolutely nothing to the sellers that represent the copy wheels as genuine. It probably won’t be too long until the 19 inch FPV wheel will also be available in 17, 18 & 19 inch copies. It is those wheels that degenerate the true value of FPV vehicles, not people like me trying to promote the genuine product.

At the end of the day, the XY GT is the classic example, what is worth more, the replica with all the best genuine and repo gear or the run down genuine iarticle with matching original numbers and I.D. plate. The genuine product will always draw more respect than the replica no matter how good the replica is. Nothing unique about replica wheels.

Finally I sincerely hope you appreciate my comments and have a better insight as to what the advertisement truly represents.

Kind regards and I look forward to your response.

[Rodp]

Originally Posted by BOFB

If you or I wanted 1000 tail lamps, 500 dipsticks, 2000 right hand front guards, 60 boots, 321 left hand head lights, we could without restriction have order them tomorrow and no one would care. You don’t even need to own a Ford to do that.

It absolutely is a scam. If those items you wanted to buy were parts for a limited edition or top of the range exclusive car then no you wouldn't be able to buy them!

If I had owned a GT-P then I'd be pretty ****ed that you were undermining the exclusivity of my car in a goal to make yourself quick bucks, yet you have the nerve to slander FPV over it! Why should I feel happy that you were potentially decreasing the value of my car!

If you lost your wheels because they were stolen, I'd be right behind you ****ed having to wait. But it would appear you do own Wheelking, and not only are you onselling the wheels and thus depriving the car of wheels in the first place, I'm sure you have the power to throw another set of wheels on the car and drive it around if you so wished, instead of trying to slander FPV in this way.

Your add is misleading, your whole 'venture' is a scam. FPV I'm sure are wise to it which is why they're limiting your ability to profit out of the exclusivity of their range. Bravo FPV.

[Full Noise]

What happens if BOFB’s GT-P is stolen and not recovered? The VIN number of this particular vehicle will go on a stolen vehicle database, and to my understanding will never be taken off. The GT-P wheels are sprayed with DATADOTS and for those people who have purchased the original wheels, they are going to be driving around with a stolen vehicle's VIN on part of their car. Obviously they will be able to prove where they got them from, but what happens if they sell the wheels to someone else, and that person can’t prove that they were sold third hand? The practice of selling these wheels may not technically be illegal, however, in many people’s opinion’s it is dishonest.

Cheers, Danny

[fordcrank]

I think the answer lies in a one for one replacement as suggested elsewhere. Believe it or not, I was unhappy with the condition of the stripes when I purchased my GT-P. The dealership readily agreed to replace them, no dramas. When I had them replaced, I had to give the old ones back!!!!!

I wonder if FPV would not be better served by running a similar advertisement in Unique Cars indicating the truth here. I'd be mentioning Wheelking also, he had no problem mentioning them.

Might be time for a big feed of humble pie, Mr Wheelking.

Originally Posted by Full Noise

Obviously they will be able to prove where they got them from,

Who is to say this shonky salesman even gave them a receipt? He would sell his grandmother if he could. Lets ALL boycott the Wheelking. :gren:

How the hell does he sleep at night...

[zetec]

Originally Posted by BOFB

I am the owner of the GT-P in Unique Cars. I have only lately visited the forums noted the various versions of what is supposed to have happened to the GT-P pictured. An absolute minority has chosen to call me a loser.

Pretty large minority if you ask me. Maths never was your best subject was it sweetheart?

Originally Posted by BOFB

Whether or not I am the owner of Wheel King at this is irrespective. The facts are as follows, I purchased the vehicle with the intention of having access to MkII GT-P rims for the purpose of resale. Nothing wrong or illegal about that intention and that same option remains open to anyone willing to part with their money.

Businessman of the Year award here sunshine. If I wanted to sell CD-ROM Drives of the latest speed I most certainly wouldn't purchase a DELL Computer at Retail and then flog mine off and ask for a replacement. What kind of idiot pays retail for anything that is then going to be onsold to the consumer in any kind of volume? Surely you'd approach them as a distributor or wholesaler. And if this isn't possible, maybe that's a hint at something?!!!

Originally Posted by BOFB

I sold the wheels that came with the vehicle the same day I took delivery around December 20 2004. I ordered another set and did not get a full set until January 12 2005. Effectively it took over 3 weeks to get a replacement set. What if it was you that purchased the vehicle and your wheels through no fault of your own were damaged or stolen. Would you appreciate waiting 3 weeks plus over the Christmas break for your replacement wheels?

Umm, yess, yes I would. I'd have no problems at all, I'm pretty understanding and don't expect people to kiss the ground I walk on everywhere I go. A $250,000 Bentley might be a different story but even then it's a 2-way street and I'd still be reasonable. I'd first of all not give away my old ones until the news ones arrived for starters. Secondly, I'd understand how hard it is to obtain new wheels with cretins such as yourself out there sucking up supply. And if stolen, I'd still understand, especially if it was a genuine delay and I was offered some 18's in the meantime or something.

Originally Posted by BOFB

I sold the set that arrived in January 12, and yes, made a profit. That is not illegal and is the fundamental basis of all businesses. Ford would have made a profit when I purchased the vehicle and I am sure made a profit when I purchased each set of wheels as well as anything else I might purchase. The very forums you are on also must make a profit. It’s not a crime to make a profit.

Profit no, but gain at the expense and discomfort of others is hardly ethical even if legal. Plenty of legal things still suck *** at times. Drinking is legal, so is being drunk, but it ruins many lives. So we've established you're a money hungry, stupid businessman with little ethical value or moral concern. Sounding more and more like a business I want to support in the future...

Originally Posted by BOFB

After getting another set or two in February and many arguments with FPV’s customer relations department, I was told that the rims were on back order and would not be available to me until June 22. Again, how would you feel if that was your GT-P that may have had its wheels stolen or damaged by no fault of your own in February and you had to wait until June for replacements?

Knowing the real reason now, I'd be very ****ed off... at you.

Originally Posted by BOFB

As some of the unfounded comments have suggested, you too would feel like a loser.

You're an expert on this, how does it feel?

[MeestaNob!]

As far as I'm concerned, the only person/persons doing anything illegal is BOFB. He's requesting replacement wheels under fraudulent circumstances.

Is that not theft or fraud, or a combination of both? Were I FPV, I would sue him for the sets he's already claimed, or if I was really feeling malicious, send him just ONE GT rim... Try selling that to someone you git.