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04-04-2018, 04:33 PM | #1 | ||
Ford screwed the Falcon
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https://www.motoring.com.au/march-vf...s-bomb-111908/
"Once again Holden sold fewer than 1000 Commodores last month, but that figure is likely to decline further since we understand almost half of them were homegrown VFII Commodores now out of production."
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04-04-2018, 05:35 PM | #2 | ||
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I reckon Mitsubishi are punching well above their weight!
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04-04-2018, 08:07 PM | #3 | ||
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I don't know anything about the Eclipse Cross, but do they make anything that is even remotely close to being a segment leader?
The Pajero Sport seams to go well, but every other model seams very, very average compared to their competitors. |
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04-04-2018, 08:13 PM | #4 | ||
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Fleet.
Rental. Heavy discounting. Average products but they "do the job".
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04-04-2018, 08:20 PM | #5 | ||
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Do the job seems to be fine with the cars that are top sellers.
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05-04-2018, 03:52 PM | #6 | ||
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06-04-2018, 08:09 PM | #7 | ||
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Hence why Toyota is no 1.
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05-04-2018, 05:06 PM | #8 | ||
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I've been working away a fair bit lately and my rental car has been a new ASX.
I wouldn't normally admit this, but I really do like it. Not an expensive car and it doesn't pretend to be, but a great SUV nonetheless. I can see why Mitsubishi are on the up.
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04-04-2018, 05:53 PM | #9 | ||
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You are going to see weird months like this as the passenger car market transitions fully to SUVs
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05-04-2018, 04:28 AM | #10 | ||
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[QUOTE=Brazen;6112596]You are going to see weird months like this as the passenger car market transitions fully to SUVs[/QUOTE
This happened two years ago. |
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05-04-2018, 02:19 PM | #11 | |||
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The ZB Commodore has completely tanked. Only 516 sales, and nearly outsold by old stocks of VF II |
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05-04-2018, 04:49 PM | #12 | |||
Ford screwed the Falcon
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05-04-2018, 06:29 PM | #13 | |||
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but at an average transaction price of well above $55,000...Now that's impressive. |
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05-04-2018, 01:36 AM | #15 | ||
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Holden overtaken by Subaru. Who woulda ever thunk it?
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05-04-2018, 06:12 PM | #17 | ||
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Mitsus are simple, fairly reliable, decent warranty and are usually cheap compared to their competitors. Its almost the Toyota philosophy if you ignore the price.
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05-04-2018, 06:23 PM | #18 | ||
Ford screwed the Falcon
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Wasn't always that way. 20 years ago their transmissions had poor reliability. Ask anybody who owned a TE/KE Magna/Verada.
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05-04-2018, 09:51 PM | #19 | ||
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I knew of a few Magnas that had non corrosive cooling systems........Engine oil in the cooling system....marvelous.
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06-04-2018, 10:18 AM | #20 | ||
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Holden’s top selling vehicle in March was the Colorado in 20th position with 1487 sales. How have the bean counters and head honchos at Holden get this so wrong? I really can’t see them getting out of this one and yet they are still tipping millions into Supercars!!
I wouldn’t want them running my business that’s for sure!
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06-04-2018, 01:56 PM | #21 | |||
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desperately point out that Ranger is 60% of total sales is dangerous and that Ford is imperiled just as much as Holden..... I'm gonna check to see if Holden is still in the top ten next month before responding... |
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06-04-2018, 03:52 PM | #22 | |||
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Look out for some massive discounts on it soon to clear old stock, just like the Astra that also tanked. Holden is going down the gurgler fast. |
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06-04-2018, 05:00 PM | #23 | ||
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Equinox isnt exactly the greatest name either.
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06-04-2018, 05:18 PM | #24 | ||
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What about Endura ?
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06-04-2018, 05:31 PM | #25 | ||
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06-04-2018, 05:21 PM | #28 | ||
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Presumably the Holden Equinox is the same as the Chev version which sells quite well in the States.
All a drop in the ocean compared to F Truck sales though. http://www.goodcarbadcar.net/2018/04...ehicle-ranked/ Must be good to be a Ford dealership in the States.
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06-04-2018, 06:44 PM | #29 | ||
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I think he meant the name Endura is a stinker. It is hard to disagree.
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06-04-2018, 07:05 PM | #30 | ||
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https://www.caradvice.com.au/637119/...vehicle-sales/ VFACTS: March 2018 new vehicle sales Holden plummets, Mitsubishi and Honda soar, market on record pace by Mike Costello Australia’s new vehicle sales in March hit a record high of 106,988 units, according to company-provided figures collated by industry peak body, the Federal Chamber of Automotive Industries (FCAI). This increase of 4.4 per cent over March 2017 took quarter-one sales to 291,538, up 1.5 per cent over last year’s record. March is always a high-volume month on the calendar. The push for ceaseless growth within Australia’s intensely crowded and fragmented market continues unabated. Consider this: nine of the past 11 months have produced all-time record tallies. Five states and territories recorded gains during March. The Northern Territory led the way with 12.8 per cent growth, followed by the ACT with 7.9 per cent, then Victoria (6.3), Queensland (1.8), and Western Australia (1.3). South Australia, Tasmania and NSW all recorded falls. SUVs dominated the market, recording a 42.6 per cent share compared to 33.8 per cent share for other passenger vehicles, and 20.5 per cent for light commercials — two of which, the Toyota HiLux and Ford Ranger, were once again the nation’s two most popular vehicles of any type. “To have the market at 4.4 per cent ahead of last year’s record total is a clear vote of consumer confidence in the economy’s stability and low interest rates, both key factors which encourage private buyers and businesses into new vehicles,” FCAI chief Tony Weber stated. Brands Toyota won out as per usual with 18,878 sales, a 4 per cent fall over last March, brought about principally by a 39 per cent fall in Camry sales as stocks of Australia made models vanish, and the smaller-volume imported model gets rolling in earnest. Mazda fell 7 per cent but still secured second spot on the table with 9723 sales, led by the Mazda 3 and CX-5. Third was Mitsubishi, belying its ageing line-up thanks to a strong fleet presence and some remarkably sharp pricing coinciding with the end of Japanese financial year. Its 8810 sales was a March record. Hyundai fell back 3 per cent to 8443, but has a clear gap to fifth-placed Ford on 6687 – 60 per cent of which were Ranger sales. Nissan performed well by growing around the market average to 6191 units thanks to bumper X-Trail and Qashqai sales. The massive improver once again was Honda, with the new CR-V, plus the Civic and HR-V, driving it to 80 per cent growth in March, recording 5586 sales. Its Q1 tally of 15,129 is up 55 per cent, and almost level with Holden’s. Subaru recorded its 39th successive growth month with 5195 sales, and remarkably beat a decimated Holden, which fell 29 per cent to 5116 units as Astra and Equinox failed to fire. Commodore managed a solid enough 990 units, though this is half what the VFII achieved in March ’17. Volkswagen slotted in above Holden in ninth on a fairly steady 5137, ahead of Kia, which has seen its growth rate slow after a booming 2017, but which is still going upwards Mercedes-Benz, Isuzu Ute, BMW and Suzuki all recorded strong months as well. Smaller scale brands that grew included Audi (after a long stagnation, it shot up 23 per cent to 1860), Alfa Romeo (up 45 per cent top 133), Mini (373, up 13 per cent), Skoda (426, up 10 per cent), Renault (1007, up 6 per cent) and Volvo Car (500, up 35.5 per cent thanks to XC60). Big things are also happening at a few of the market’s Chinese brands. Light commercial and SUV maker LDV was up an amazing 243 per cent to 521 (yes, ahead of Skoda), while MG managed 142, up 168 per cent. Haval fell 23 per cent to just 53. Struggling marques beyond those mentioned included Citroen (36, down 48 per cent), Fiat (93, down 49.5 per cent), Infiniti (43, down 62 per cent), Jaguar (234, down 22 per cent), Jeep (633, down 26 per cent), Land Rover (1093, down 31 per cent), Lexus (863, down 7 per cent), Maserati (54, down 13 per cent), Peugeot (Sime Darby honeymoon over? 163, down 24 per cent) and Porsche (333, down 10 per cent). Cars Three of the top four vehicles were utes, with the Toyota HiLux #1 ahead of the Ford Ranger at #2 (though top dog in the profitable 4×4 race) and the Mitsubishi Triton #4. In third, fifth and sixth were small cars, in order: Toyota Corolla , Mazda 3 and Hyundai i30. The next four top-sellers are SUVS, the Nissan X-Trail has a smashing month ahead of the Mitsubishi ASX, Mazda CX-5 and Toyota RAV4. This means that of the top 10, three are utes, four are SUVs and three are passenger cars. Top three models per segment: Light cars 7289 Hyundai Accent 1551 Mazda 2 947 Honda Jazz 907 Small cars 18,580 Toyota Corolla 3218 Mazda 3 2780 Hyundai i30 2719 Medium cars 4645 Toyota Camry 1416 Merc C-Class 610 Merc CLA 399 Large cars 1586 Holden Commodore 990 Kia Stinger 184 BMW 5 Series 115 People movers 1176 Kia Carnival 506 Honda Odyssey 230 VW Multivan 101 Sports cars 2063 Ford Mustang 705 Mercedes C-Class 185 BMW 2 Series 159 SUV small 12,975 Mitsubishi ASX 2337 Nissan Qashqai 1497 Subaru XV 1416 SUV medium 19,116 Nissan X-Trail 2504 Mazda CX-5 2261 Toyota RAV4 1952 SUV large 11,884 Toyota Prado 1677 Toyota Kluger 1144 Subaru Outback 1107 SUV upper large 1590 Toyota LandCruiser 1276 Nissan Patrol 163 Mercedes GLS 85 Vans < 3.5t 1968 Toyota HiAce 571 Hyundai iLoad 392 Renault Trafic 201 Utes 4×2 Toyota HiLux 1124 Ford Ranger 597 Isuzu D-Max 514 Utes 4×4 Ford Ranger 3467 Toyota HiLux 3224 Mitsubishi Triton 2788 Miscellaneous States/territories: NSW 35,754, Vic 31,105, Qld 21,591, WA 8821, SA 6332, ACT 1816, Tas 1502, NT 1067. Top five segments by share: Medium SUVs 17.9; Small cars 17.4, 4×4 Utes 14.9, Small SUVs 12.1, Large SUVs 11.1. Overall buyer-type split: Private 47,996, business 44,690, government 3470, rental 7386 Fuel-type split: Petrol 67,761, diesel 37,859, hybrid 1202, EV/PHEV 166 (excluding Tesla, which refuses to disclose figures) Top-five origin countries: Japan 33,539, Thailand 28,589, Korea 15,021, Germany 8461, USA 3787 (Australian-made 709, runout stock) Tables Brand March ‘18 sales March ‘17 sales Toyota 18,878 19,652 Mazda 9723 10,472 Mitsubishi 8810 7619 Hyundai 8443 8700 Ford 6687 6852 Nissan 6191 5620 Honda 5586 3106 Subaru 5195 5006 Holden 5116 7211 Volkswagen 5137 5122 Kia 5084 4684 Mercedes-Benz 3786 3945 Isuzu Ute 2580 2074 BMW 2229 2220 Suzuki 1913 1792 Model March ‘18 sales March ‘17 sales Toyota HiLux 4348 4242 Ford Ranger 4064 3845 Toyota Corolla 3218 3574 Mitsubishi Triton 3109 2670 Mazda 3 2780 3039 Hyundai i30 2719 2383 Nissan X-Trail 2504 1780 Mitsubishi ASX 2337 1384 Mazda CX-5 2261 2116 Toyota RAV4 1952 1865 Isuzu D-Max 1747 1424 Volkswagen Golf 1713 1504 Honda CR-V 1683 493 Toyota Prado 1677 1383 Kia Cerato 1659 1769 Hyundai Tucson 1601 2156 Hyundai Accent 1551 1529 Nissan Navara 1536 1784 Nissan Qashqai 1497 1927 Holden Colorado 1487 1927 |
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