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Old 19-05-2020, 11:37 AM   #1
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Sort of thing FC might have an opinion about...

Putting theory out the window. Chap is offering for $60, a Century 57MF battery that would fit the Falcon, with Supercrap install sticker dated 10/18.

In his (paraphrased) words, been in a garage on a wooden shelf, needs charging.

How likely is it, this would come back to any usable life? Noting the brand. New, they’re on special for $155 at aforementioned shop. But that’s a $95 difference...
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Old 19-05-2020, 12:06 PM   #2
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I would still buy a new one, you would think he would charge himself and sell it as is.
I had a new small 12V willow in the diesel genset I left to long and re charge it last week but I don't know if it will recover fully, time will tell.
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Old 19-05-2020, 12:35 PM   #3
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Maybe he’s related to CarSales Territory Man?

Yes, leaning towards a new battery.

AC Delco AU22R520SMF $109, ~200km round trip, say $20 in fuel, 5 hours of my life
Century 57EF MF $155 35km round trip
Exide Endurance 52DMF $149 40km round trip
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Old 19-05-2020, 12:27 PM   #4
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Offer Him $40. Anyway It's still within the 24 Month warranty period..
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Offer Him $40. Anyway It's still within the 24 Month warranty period..
Is the warranty pro-rated and transferable? A serious question.
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If you have the original receipt anything's transferable
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Thanks for the thread,
just reminded me to order a couple more N150 Centuries. Pick them up tomorrow if I'm allowed across the border.
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Just make sure you check your spark plugs
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I just got a century from super cheap (the spark plug specialists). Was on special for $200 down from 279 I think. The one your after could be on special.
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You need to rejuvenate your battery
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How do you rejuvenate a battery ? Apart from recharging it.
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Putting theory out the window. Chap is offering for $60, a Century 57MF battery that would fit the Falcon, with Supercrap install sticker dated 10/18.

In his (paraphrased) words, been in a garage on a wooden shelf, needs charging.

How likely is it, this would come back to any usable life? Noting the brand. New, they’re on special for $155 at aforementioned shop. But that’s a $95 difference...
I have a top notch Century battery, less than q year old, and its ****ed. Just trying to figure how to claim under warranty.
First thing on a cold morning, if the old donk don't catch on the first flick, I have to roll-start.

Now this is not necessarily a reflection on the brand. Just that buying a 2nd hand battery is pot luck, and not worth the aggravation.
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I have a top notch Century battery, less than q year old, and its ****ed. Just trying to figure how to claim under warranty.
First thing on a cold morning, if the old donk don't catch on the first flick, I have to roll-start.

Now this is not necessarily a reflection on the brand. Just that buying a 2nd hand battery is pot luck, and not worth the aggravation.
Calcium battery?
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I have a top notch Century battery, less than q year old, and its ****ed. Just trying to figure how to claim under warranty.
First thing on a cold morning, if the old donk don't catch on the first flick, I have to roll-start.

Now this is not necessarily a reflection on the brand. Just that buying a 2nd hand battery is pot luck, and not worth the aggravation.

Take it to a Century dealer (any one will do) and have them run it on the Century tester and get the results printed out. If you can convince the battery to have 12V without it being a surface charge (as in off the charger for a bit, and settles into 12V or more and stays there) then you'll get the battery replaced. And if the dealer won't do it, find another one. Handing in a Century battery that fails the test but still has 'right' voltage and is within warranty, Century just swap them over without any fuss and it costs the dealer nothing but a little time that also earns them goodwill.



Go on, ask me how I know. ;)


However, if it's died because it's not getting charged adequately, then you might be in for some trouble. Comes under neglect and they may refuse the warranty claim. Not common, but can happen. I'll try and get it over the line if it's an honest claim, but I'll bounce it up the food chain if you try and pull a swifty. You may still get a new battery, but you might not too.


I'd hit up whichever Century dealer you have nearby and see what happens. If you can't find one who's willing to help you out, call Century direct. They're usually pretty good about this kind of thing.



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Old 27-05-2020, 11:29 AM   #15
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In his (paraphrased) words, been in a garage on a wooden shelf, needs charging.

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Bit of a Topic hijack I Know. But;
Is it an Old Wives tale that Sitting a battery on Concrete Will send It Flat..
I had an employee who would Always only sit batteries on either Wood or Rubber, He Swore black & blue that they'd go flat sitting on Concrete..

My personal Opinion is that It's an Urban Myth...
But Happy to be Proven Wrong,
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Franco, is an ACDelco AU22R520SMF good value at $109?

Hayseed: I’ve wondered if the “chilling” effect of a cold surface creates a situation inside a lead acid battery where the reaction is measurably slower closer to the cold area, and whether this creates uneven plate deposits inside the battery.
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Franco, is an ACDelco AU22R520SMF good value at $109?

Hayseed: I’ve wondered if the “chilling” effect of a cold surface creates a situation inside a lead acid battery where the reaction is measurably slower closer to the cold area, and whether this creates uneven plate deposits inside the battery.
Certainly is good value, mine which is the Commodore version of the same battery cost around $120+ through Holden Trade Club.
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Bit of a Topic hijack I Know. But;
Is it an Old Wives tale that Sitting a battery on Concrete Will send It Flat..
I had an employee who would Always only sit batteries on either Wood or Rubber, He Swore black & blue that they'd go flat sitting on Concrete..

My personal Opinion is that It's an Urban Myth...
But Happy to be Proven Wrong,
No one can prove why but it does seem to cause issues, even I live by that wife's tale
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Bit of a Topic hijack I Know. But;
Is it an Old Wives tale that Sitting a battery on Concrete Will send It Flat..
I had an employee who would Always only sit batteries on either Wood or Rubber, He Swore black & blue that they'd go flat sitting on Concrete..

My personal Opinion is that It's an Urban Myth...
But Happy to be Proven Wrong,
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No one can prove why but it does seem to cause issues, even I live by that wife's tale
It was not a wives tale, in a bygone era battery cases were constructed of porous materials where it was possible for battery to drain if battery sat on damp concrete surface.
Today's batteries are made of more durable plastics where this cannot happen.

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The argument about sitting a battery on concrete comes from the fact that the bottom of the battery will be a lot colder than the top of the battery. This inhibits the circulation of the Electrolyte within the battery.
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