Its never easy... Motor stuffed.:(

[gthofan]

Hey guys, recently i have installed an xr6 head to my 300,000km old engine. Simple enough, but 2 days later starts blowing blue oil smoke when cold, so i went to the mechanic and he said hopefully valve stem seals. I had those fixed on wednesday, but its still doing it. So it leaves one thing it could be. The piston rings.
It seems that e-series cars and me are just not meant to be... I need some advice on what to do,

1. Complete auto v8 conversion for about $1200
2. Au engine conversion using my xr head and rocker gear/cam $cost unknown
3. Save up and buy a new short motor for about $1500-$1700

I just dont know what to do, after having the ea die on me, and now this car, im about to lose the plot i think :(

any suggestions??

cheers
scott

[DEVL-XR]

Hey Scott bad luck there mate. I'd say so the AU conversion and put your XR head and cam gear on it. You could just use MPFI to make the conversion easier. Theres a few members on here who would be willing to give you a hand I'm sure.
A V8 conversion would be nice but I'm sure theres a lot more stuffing around.

[gthofan]

Im not too sure of the cost of an au engine, Would i have to do a serpentine conversion?

[twincamfalcon]

You can mess around and not run the serpentine conversion but you may as well IMO.

Could put a BA motor in there as well. That would be sweet.

I think Sundeep knows all the ins and outs with a V8 conversion, he helped a guy I know get his running. That is what I would be doing. You can beat that sound for a daily driver IMO.

[Dezza]

Bad luck Scotty. I reckon go the AU engine. If you do that, at least you'll be able to keep your manual too.

[gthofan]

i saw recently that ba twin cam motors go for about $600 on ebay. but i would have no idea on how to set up twin cam.

[snypereb]

AU motor should come with serp scotty get the bloddy head reco'd. that should do the trick! AU motor from FTG Auto Salvage I think are $600 - $800. Dont quote me on price though. Talk to Pat pretty sure he did his AU Engine conversion for a $1000. I think he is banned on here at the moment though?

[trick_xd]

gthofan
give me the motor and a good cam and I will rebuild it for you ... a good solid rebuild 2k
it will be stronger then a AU motor

[snypereb]

Originally Posted by trick_xd

gthofan
give me the motor and a good cam and I will rebuild it for you ... a good solid rebuild 2k
it will be stronger then a AU motor

13.77 quarter mile NA on gas scotty this is the guy you want to talk to!!!!

[mcflux]

chat with Yagz or Pat if you're considering an AU swap ;)

[trick_xd]

yep but my motor is a far bit more then a 2k rebuild .. my block , rods , head and inlet manifold is over 2k by it self.

if the rest of your car is up to it I will get you a 14.7 to a 15.4 qtr

I have built another motor running in a EB in melb that does 15.3 with crow cam 3.23ss diff manual and cat back .. thats all

as your at wade im sure you would be able to "tweak" a better cam for your self to use..

[Sundeep]

Know how you feel.

Did a head gasket for Rips' Mum's car the other day and some git who was helping decided to muck (I wanna say so bad muck doesn't have the same affect but pretend I said there ok) with the tensioner and broke it. Long story short the motor was put back together and promptly welded the dizzy shaft after about 10 minutes.

Ordered a new motor the next day ($500 EL job, delivered to the door from Ozwreck). It didn't look too spectacular when it arrived but 3 good people working on it, good tools/air tools and 9 hours saw it all fitted (dual fuel too!) and running well first turn of the key.

Borrowed a crane off Dan too, so that saved about $50. Dansedgli for unban.

Soooo yeah. Don't waste your time just jam in a ED Tickford 4L FTW. Engine changes when you install the correct motor for the car are way less around.

Sundeep

[-jjM-]

got a Tickford Motor sittin here for you if you want it scotty ;) chat to me on msn man

[Tiga_EL]

too many burnouts for u eh scotty... shame shame shame

[[T1PTOP]]

300,000 Dam! your car must be taxi spec haha

[MADED-6]

yeah go the au motor man a shuresm on here got one for $550 i think it was have a look at his thread..
have a look around and see wat u can find.
cheers josh.

[private9]

If you're going the rebuild route, I'd be giving Trick_XD a yell. He knows his stuff (just look at his times) and is a great guy. If not going rebuild, I'd be thinking AU conversion.

[Christiaan]

Bundoora Auto wreckers will have AU motors for $500 including all accessories. Just tell em a few of your mates with earlier model cars had picked them up for that price before.. They'll look after ya. It's easy to install.. Once you have the XH tensioner ($80 from bursons) and an EF/EL A/C compressor, the rest is easy.

Good luck.

[gthofan]

Originally Posted by shuresm58

Bundoora Auto wreckers will have AU motors for $500 including all accessories. Just tell em a few of your mates with earlier model cars had picked them up for that price before.. They'll look after ya. It's easy to install.. Once you have the XH tensioner ($80 from bursons) and an EF/EL A/C compressor, the rest is easy.

Good luck.

just a few questions on the au motor. Can i still use my manual gearbox? will it all bolt straight on? How hard is it to modify the sump? and what accessories does that come with?

cheers

[Christiaan]

Originally Posted by gthofan

just a few questions on the au motor. Can i still use my manual gearbox? will it all bolt straight on? How hard is it to modify the sump? and what accessories does that come with?

cheers

Yes. The T5 or Auto will bolt up to 6 out of the 8 possible bolts. Which is, enough? :P Nah it'll be fine.

It comes with all accessories, but you would need a XH tensioner and EF/EL A/C or pulley thing from ford like trick xd said.. thats if you wanna keep your ea-ed style manifold. Or you can go BBM, and install an EL ECU, etc.

[Dezza]

Originally Posted by shuresm58

Yes. The T5 or Auto will bolt up to 6 out of the 8 possible bolts. Which is, enough? :P Nah it'll be fine.

It comes with all accessories, but you would need a XH tensioner and EF/EL A/C or pulley thing from ford like trick xd said.. thats if you wanna keep your ea-ed style manifold. Or you can go BBM, and install an EL ECU, etc.

Well, you're talking to the bloke who's manifold is held on loosely by 3 cross-threaded bolts, so I'm sure Scott wouldn't mind if a couple of bolts don't line up!

[gthofan]

Originally Posted by ea_silver_ghia

Well, you're talking to the bloke who's manifold is held on loosely by 3 cross-threaded bolts, so I'm sure Scott wouldn't mind if a couple of bolts don't line up!

:monkes:

[BLKPHN]

AU engine!!! AU engine!!! AU engine!!!

oh and a turbo while your at it!!

[trick_xd]

you don't need to run a Air-Compressor now there is a off the shelf part that you can buy from ford for 55$ and it will bolt where your Air-Con goes and its just a idler pulley .

[Christiaan]

Originally Posted by trick_xd

you don't need to run a Air-Compressor now there is a off the shelf part that you can buy from ford for 55$ and it will bolt where your Air-Con goes and its just a idler pulley .

yeah.. or you could grab an a/c from a wrecker for that price and get it regassed for when summer comes around ;)

[twincamfalcon]

Originally Posted by trick_xd

you don't need to run a Air-Compressor now there is a off the shelf part that you can buy from ford for 55$ and it will bolt where your Air-Con goes and its just a idler pulley .

Any idea if they have these for BA motors as well?

A rebuilt stocker would be more reliable that an AU conversion IMO. I dont know any AU's that are low km's any more. Even an early BA motor would start to have high kms.

If you get the engine rebuilt then you shouldnt have to worry about it for another 300,000kms.

Just get the short motor done and it shouldnt cost too much. It will cost more than an AU conversion but "should" last longer than a wreckers special engine that you dont know the history of.

It would be less stuffing around and will be legal unlike a BA conversion and you wont be cursed with pushrods. Those EFI windsors are the ugliest motors ever, I wouldnt want one of them in my engine bay.

[trick_xd]

Originally Posted by twincamfalcon

Any idea if they have these for BA motors as well?

No Idea about BA motors.
I just know they are there for E-series as I have spun 3 Air- Con bearings over the last 18 mths .... So I was going to make something for my motor ... and then ford told me there is a part already made as they have found that the Air-Con pumps are not all that good when you over Rev your motor or stay at mid to high revs for long times..

[The Goodz]

If you wanna get out of it cheaply I have an EA bottom end you can have for $50...

Alex

[Molloy]

AU engine would be the go, very cheap to pick up

[Kenaz]

Originally Posted by gthofan

So it leaves one thing it could be. The piston rings.
... I need some advice on what to do

With help from the mad scientist you should rip apart the block and replace the piston rings you fried.