FPV GT to be killed off early

[Sioso]

http://smh.drive.com.au/motor-news/f...716-2q1nh.html

[flappist]

Well looky there.... AMac reckons the GT will be renamed XR8 in the next model......

Now that will only leave:
It is too expemsive
It is not N/A
It is too expensive
There is no wagon
It is too expensive
It does not have LPG
It is too expensive
It is not the right colour
It is too expensive
Holden sell the SS for $29.95 Ford must compete
It is too expansive
New cars are a rip off why don't they put them out as fleet/rentals
It is too expensive

as the reason why the usual suspects won't buy one.

[vztrt]

Originally Posted by flappist

Well looky there.... AMac reckons the GT will be renamed XR8 in the next model......

Now that will only leave:
It is too expemsive
It is not N/A
It is too expensive
There is no wagon
It is too expensive
It does not have LPG
It is too expensive
It is not the right colour
It is too expensive
Holden sell the SS for $29.95 Ford must compete
It is too expansive
New cars are a rip off why don't they put them out as fleet/rentals
It is too expensive

as the reason why the usual suspects won't buy one.

Pfft....You forgot TTV12 motor.

[Kieron]

Originally Posted by flappist

Well looky there.... AMac reckons the GT will be renamed XR8 in the next model......

Now that will only leave:
It is too expemsive
It is not N/A
It is too expensive
There is no wagon
It is too expensive
It does not have LPG
It is too expensive
It is not the right colour
It is too expensive
Holden sell the SS for $29.95 Ford must compete
It is too expansive
New cars are a rip off why don't they put them out as fleet/rentals
It is too expensive

as the reason why the usual suspects won't buy one.

Is this sort of post really necessary? it adds nothing of value to the discussion


On topic, crying shame to lose the GT and it will be interesting to see if they do resurrect the XR8 name and in what state.

I was never a fan of the XR8 badge, much preferred the GS or GT (and I own an FG XR8). As a guess, the demographic for a new Falcon V8 would tend to be the older buyer who are long time Ford fans and would remember these older iconic badges, would be fitting for Ford to retire the mighty Falcon with these badges in my view.

[westy73]

Originally Posted by Kieron

Is this sort of post really necessary? it adds nothing of value to the discussion


On topic, crying shame to lose the GT and it will be interesting to see if they do resurrect the XR8 name and in what state.

I was never a fan of the XR8 badge, much preferred the GS or GT (and I own an FG XR8). As a guess, the demographic for a new Falcon V8 would tend to be the older buyer who are long time Ford fans and would remember these older iconic badges, would be fitting for Ford to retire the mighty Falcon with these badges in my view.

Couldn't agree more. We are AUSTRALIAN people. Not YANKEE. I for one will go down and be remembered for loving Ford Australia products. Have loved the GT's and GS's for as long as I can remember. I have aspired to own a Ford Falcon GT but will never quite get there by the looks. It sucks big time. People can jump ship and love their American Heritage Mustangs but I will always love the GT and it is the pinnacle Ford OZ car IMO. Not some import.

[Buntz]

Originally Posted by flappist

Well looky there.... AMac reckons the GT will be renamed XR8 in the next model......

Now that will only leave:
It is too expemsive
It is not N/A
It is too expensive
There is no wagon
It is too expensive
It does not have LPG
It is too expensive
It is not the right colour
It is too expensive
Holden sell the SS for $29.95 Ford must compete
It is too expansive
New cars are a rip off why don't they put them out as fleet/rentals
It is too expensive

as the reason why the usual suspects won't buy one.

You forgot to mention how expensive it will be...

Wait..

Originally Posted by Polyal

Thankyou. Its the lack of respect, decency and basic principle of all this that gets me pretty not happy Jan.

They have successfully implemented the biggest cost cut they can here, give us the joy of going out with grace and style.

While its not peanuts the cost of seats, some interior plastics and stripes is bugger all and the r&d for these cosmetic changes minimal. Consideing this is basically a cosmetic makeover update and its highly unlikely there will be any major mechanical change (happy to be wrong) why do a half job?

Their better off not spending much on anything other than GTs and XRs as the general public wont have a bar of the next Falcon anyway. How did the 380 fair in the final hours?

For me its a bad situation with a sour twist, and looking at the past decade of (o(k ups I wont be holding my breath. Ive heard the XR is quite the looker, great, but if the top of the line falcon is visually based off a rental car then thats dissapointing to say the least.

Dearborn is relieved that the Falcon is dead. They may even skimp further on the final Falcon, now that their wish has come true... let's see what happens.

[Cobra]

That is very ****! But not even slightly surprising. GT R-Spec now goes down in history as the best Falcon ever...

[Road_Warrior]

Ok, so they're going to kill the GT basically in name, and revive the XR8 and make it the GT in body and practice. Retarded decision is retarded.

Also Flappist you forgot the highly sought after RTV Fairlane option.

[flappist]

Originally Posted by Road_Warrior

Ok, so they're going to kill the GT basically in name, and revive the XR8 and make it the GT in body and practice. Retarded decision is retarded.

Also Flappist you forgot the highly sought after RTV Fairlane option.

Hmmm, I just remembered there is actually a precedent for this, the EB GT was replaced by the XR8 Sprint.

Of course this might be a bit of "burley" to attract potential "last GT ever I will make a fortune as a collector" buyers......

AMac used to be FPV's minister for truth......

[Fordman1]

Originally Posted by Road_Warrior

Ok, so they're going to kill the GT basically in name, and revive the XR8 and make it the GT in body and practice. Retarded decision is retarded.

Also Flappist you forgot the highly sought after RTV Fairlane option.

XR6 Body GT power train ..... I think you'll find it's true

[LeadFoot81]

Originally Posted by Road_Warrior

Ok, so they're going to kill the GT basically in name, and revive the XR8 and make it the GT in body and practice. Retarded decision is retarded.

Also Flappist you forgot the highly sought after RTV Fairlane option.

What? Retarded like the ED XR8 Sprint?

[Road_Warrior]

Could this be to make room for the hi-po Mustangs?

[westy73]

Originally Posted by Road_Warrior

Could this be to make room for the hi-po Mustangs?

Who cares. They kill the GT, they kill my aspirations to own a Ford.
I love GT's !! Period.

[Pies1]

Originally Posted by westy73

Who cares. They kill the GT, they kill my aspirations to own a Ford.
I love GT's !! Period.

I wont be buying their US cars they import out here.

Mustang will be overpriced, and we wont get the best one anyway.

[mcnews]

R Spec owners will be the winners out of this. They will eventually be the most collectible Falcon ever one would expect.

[Stefan]

Originally Posted by mcnews

R Spec owners will be the winners out of this. They will eventually be the most collectible Falcon ever one would expect.

Racing Heritage = most collectible = GTHO Phase 3!

[flappist]

Originally Posted by Stefan

Racing Heritage = most collectible = GTHO Phase 3!

If racing heritage is the primary concern then the GTHO Phase 3 is LONG way from the top.

It won at Bathurst ONCE.

XA won twice and Cortina GT won 3 times.
Not to mention the multiple wins by the red team.

Of course only a few really care about the Cortina GT as compared to the later XY Falcon it was quite slow, possibly even slower than a 6 cylinder Falcon.

Rather like the FG XT vs Phase 3 time trial on Top Gear really.

What is collectible and valuable in the future will be determined by the future as the people of that time look back.

[XR Martin]

Originally Posted by flappist

If racing heritage is the primary concern then the GTHO Phase 3 is LONG way from the top.

It won at Bathurst ONCE.

XA won twice and Cortina GT won 3 times.
Not to mention the multiple wins by the red team.

Of course only a few really care about the Cortina GT as compared to the later XY Falcon it was quite slow, possibly even slower than a 6 cylinder Falcon.

Rather like the FG XT vs Phase 3 time trial on Top Gear really.

What is collectible and valuable in the future will be determined by the future as the people of that time look back.

What will determine future collectability, is what disirability it has to younger people today.
Do young people care about the Phase 3, letalone any current GTs?

[zx10]

Originally Posted by XR6 Martin

What will determine future collectability, is what disirability it has to younger people today.
Do young people care about the Phase 3, letalone any current GTs?

Would be interesting to survey high school kids and see what cars they aspire to own.

[HEMI POWER]

Originally Posted by flappist

If racing heritage is the primary concern then the GTHO Phase 3 is LONG way from the top.

It won at Bathurst ONCE.

XA won twice and Cortina GT won 3 times.
Not to mention the multiple wins by the red team.

Of course only a few really care about the Cortina GT as compared to the later XY Falcon it was quite slow, possibly even slower than a 6 cylinder Falcon.

Rather like the FG XT vs Phase 3 time trial on Top Gear really.

What is collectible and valuable in the future will be determined by the future as the people of that time look back.

Time will tell, but 40 years down the track and the REAL GT's are still the number one collectors cars in todays market.FPV's are a awesome attempt by Ford to sell cars but we all know they are just that a Nameplate to sell a car in todays market.Classic GT's will always have there place in History and especially the KING of Australian automobile history the P3

[P6LTD351]

Originally Posted by HEMI POWER

Time will tell, but 40 years down the track and the REAL GT's are still the number one collectors cars in todays market.

The people with the money in the next 10 - 40 years won't give two hoots about Bathurst or any racing pedigree. I love Phase 3s but I've never been one to watch cars go around a track - I love driving. Still love Phase 3s, XAs, XBs. But definitely not because they went around a track. Those days are gone. Welcome to the new world.

[Stefan]

Originally Posted by flappist

If racing heritage is the primary concern then the GTHO Phase 3 is LONG way from the top.

It won at Bathurst ONCE.

XA won twice and Cortina GT won 3 times.
Not to mention the multiple wins by the red team.

Of course only a few really care about the Cortina GT as compared to the later XY Falcon it was quite slow, possibly even slower than a 6 cylinder Falcon.

Rather like the FG XT vs Phase 3 time trial on Top Gear really.

What is collectible and valuable in the future will be determined by the future as the people of that time look back.

[Superoo]

So shall I place an order for a G6ET with the F6 engine now?

[nstg8a]

Inaccurate article is inaccurate.

[DJM83]

Originally Posted by nstg8a

Inaccurate article is inaccurate.

I have to agree, ill believe it when i see it. Not that ill be rushing out to buy one.

[Winter XR8]

The final XR8 should also go down as a future collectable being the only XR8 to come factory supercharged. Might have to go down and talk to my local.

[MercurySilver]

So the last 335kw xr8 will be the xc gxl ?
A gt that isn't a gt?

[FPV GTHO]

The best guesses I've seen still point to F6 dropped with potentially an XR6T310 model, GS dropped for XR8 and GT to remain with a few option packs replacing GTP etc.

...And a Twin turbo V8 Mustang in the pipeline

[Alan D Segal]

Originally Posted by FPV GTHO

The best guesses I've seen still point to F6 dropped with potentially an XR6T310 model, GS dropped for XR8 and GT to remain with a few option packs replacing GTP etc.

I vote make the last Falcon with everything optional. XT manuals with LSDs, brembos and supercharged V8s for the win!!

P.S. I am a non-new falcon buyer who also agrees that country packs should be made available

[IDT]

Regardless of what happens, these are sad days.