When buying a car who decides "if you did any good"??

HULK_I6T · 09-02-2015, 04:04 PM

When buying a car (new or used), the next stage is to "get it passed" by your peers, family, girlfriend or whoever..

People in our lives will either critique our purchase or confirm the purchase "that we did good"

Did we pay too much? Is it mechanically sound? Did we miss something obvious etc etc..

Years back a mate of mine bought a commodore from the auctions.. He was standing in front of us proud as punch as how cheap he paid it.. His dad was gloating at how "he found a good one".. My mate and I noticed it had a VK model back end (with small spoiler) and a VL model front end... (vl has a sort of lip on the boot where VK is flat) We expressed our observation and they went into damage control mode, no no no they said.. We peeled back the carpet to reveal the weld job, it was a cut n shut shocker. Then their faces went bright red with embarrassment and scratched their heads at how they had been fooled... How did they miss this obvious flaw.

Another time I bought a small car for a cheap runabout and a girlfriend popped over and saw it. She started giggling and called me mr bean. So I received a disapproval.

So people from everywhere are either going to critique your purchase or confirm it as "you did alright"... So when buying a car you needs to ensure your peers/family/girlfriend will approve.

Who do you have to get your purchase through? Who is gonna pick your purchase apart?.... Or confirm it as a good decision.

galaxy xr8 · 09-02-2015, 04:13 PM

Why did you bother peeling the carpet back....why didn’t you just look underneath ?.

1TUFFUTE · 09-02-2015, 05:00 PM

edited by Admin

I would have thought this topic was clear cut as you've allready been tarred an feathered in other thread about your car choice, and age, and quality blah blah. But yes, people you know will always have an opinion about your car as everyone likes diff things about cars!
Some people prefer new cars.....some older cheaper value cars and some only care about safety features when judging if you got a good car in their opinion.

It's always fun debating your new cars positives tho

Feathers · 09-02-2015, 04:41 PM

Dad approves the purchase, and checks it over (as a licenced mechanic and body builder), and then my Uncle comes around to inspect and give his approval.

When I bought the XR6, he came around to the house asking where the car was - when I said that it was in the yard at work, he turned around and left.
When he saw it at the yard, and realised Dad had it parked unlocked with the keys in it, he pulled them out, locked the door and told Dad off on my behalf.

blackf6 · 09-02-2015, 05:26 PM

I buy the car I want. Stuff the approval. Didn't even ask the missus. Got in trouble but have the car I wanted.

HULK_I6T · 09-02-2015, 06:10 PM

I think its quite strange that the people who need to be appeased are not often there to inspect the car BEFORE its purchased..

But then the buyer has to "best present" the car for the approval of friends/peers/family/girlfriend.. Why not just bring them to start with? Then if you buy it with their blessing then no retorts or pot shots after?

I sold my AU falcon recently and the technique the guy used to test the car was rev it and his girlfriend would view the exhaust to see if there is any smoke?? wierd technique as even battered up old high km falcons dont smoke (in my experience). The other technique was he drove it up the street and started swerving like the touring cars? was he trying to warm the tyres for a hot lap? But in the end his girlfriend gave him the all clear, so no headaches when he gets home to then get the approval of "having done good"...

MAD · 10-02-2015, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by HULK_I6T

The other technique was he drove it up the street and started swerving like the touring cars? was he trying to warm the tyres for a hot lap?

You've never done this to confirm a failed wheel bearing?

It's a fine way to put steering and suspension components under load.
As long as it's done with a enough pace/force, not just gently weaving around.

**DJM83** · 09-02-2015, 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by DeJaVu GT

I buy the car I want. Stuff the approval. Didn't even ask the missus. Got in trouble but have the car I wanted.

+1

I decide what i want, no one else. I dont buy a car to suit anyone else but me bought both my last cars then told the missus. Probably why she is gone (nah its not). I dont need any approval so dont tell me i do.

Hulk you really do have some issues. Have you taken your new Territory to the BBQ yet to get approval from your mates? I doubt they will like it seen as they drive AMG Mercs.

Here i was foolish to think that the last cpl of threads werent actually too bad, but again you stoop back to the usual

Franco Cozzo · 09-02-2015, 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by DeJaVu GT

I buy the car I want. Stuff the approval. Didn't even ask the missus. Got in trouble but have the car I wanted.

Its easier to ask for forgiveness than permission

Fordblue1000 · 09-02-2015, 11:17 PM

Ive had my coupe for over 20 years. My parents always hated it. They still laugh at me for having it. My friends always give me grief for owning it. My ltd is still the bargain it was ten years ago. But in spite of the breakdowns of these two daily drivers over this time, my old daewoo still keeps on going. I have always been encouraged to buy someting newer, but why? Im happy with these couple of cars as they just keep on going. For the record that daewoo costs me nothing to run. Ive spent less than $2k on it since new in 1999. Thats including tyres and brakes over 200,000's worth. The fords i have kept on the road has cost me lots more, but would bever change this. Not for anyone. They give us our identity that makes us individual!

**Elks** · 10-02-2015, 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by DeJaVu GT

I buy the car I want. Stuff the approval. Didn't even ask the missus. Got in trouble but have the car I wanted.

+3

Although I didn't get into trouble.

SensationFG8 · 09-02-2015, 06:07 PM

Only I decide if I did good.

Couldn't care less what any other fool thinks.

SpoolMan · 09-02-2015, 06:12 PM

Thread needs to stay on topic, any other rubbish will be removed with points..

Mr Hardware · 09-02-2015, 06:12 PM

Why would I care about other's opinions on my car? Are they paying for it? Nope.

Too many people I know spend money they don't have, on things they don't need, to impress people they don't like.

SensationFG8 · 09-02-2015, 06:22 PM

Mr hardware you nailed it.

Funny thing is plenty of people will try to disapprove of purchases so hulk has an opinion founded in some fact. But the trick is do you really care?

I ask you hulk, why does it matter if someone picks holes in the purchase?

HULK_I6T · 09-02-2015, 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by SensationFG8

Mr hardware you nailed it.

Funny thing is plenty of people will try to disapprove of purchases so hulk has an opinion founded in some fact. But the trick is do you really care?

I ask you hulk, why does it matter if someone picks holes in the purchase?

I think people Associate a level of intelligence with getting a great deal. Buying a car is about assessing the cars strengths/weaknesses against a purchase price. People like to assess if the deal is good or bad and then conclude if you are intelligent or not about the purchase. Could you have gotten better for your money? Will you likely lose money, hold even or gain money if sold tomorrow. Did you miss some obvious hidden expenses etc

Example imagine if someone told you they bought a FG XT and paid $55,000 for it.. You would start laughing wouldnt you? Thinking they wasted their money. They might be happy with the car but you can't associate much approval or intelligence to their purchase can you?

LoudPipes · 09-02-2015, 07:36 PM

I’ve never purchased a car with anyone in mind other than myself or myself and my family needs.

To me it would ludicrous to do anything but.

To quote Ricky Nelson from his old song, Garden Party.

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But it's all right now, I learned my lesson well.
You see ya can't please everyone, so ya got to please yourself.

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Originally Posted by HULK_I6T

Example imagine if someone told you they bought a FG XT and paid $55,000 for it.. You would start laughing wouldnt you? Thinking they wasted their money. They might be happy with the car but you can't associate much approval or intelligence to their purchase can you?

I’d never seriously put a friend down for a mistake, we are all entitled to get things wrong once in a while.

Personally I would quietly consider someone who seeks the approval of others to justify their own choices to be the one lacking intelligence.

1TUFFUTE · 09-02-2015, 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by SensationFG8

Mr hardware you nailed it.

Funny thing is plenty of people will try to disapprove of purchases so hulk has an opinion founded in some fact. But the trick is do you really care?

I ask you hulk, why does it matter if someone picks holes in the purchase?

That's the thing.....some of you guys say you don't care.......some of you say you don't but your actions and reactions to others views of your car would show that you do care.
So yes everyone has an opinion but only yours matters to you.......well for some people. I think most pretend they don't care, but the second someone starts picking thru their car they'll put up the walls!

HULK_I6T · 10-02-2015, 08:49 AM

It could even come down to reading a review of cars..

For instance those who bought the Windsor v8 powered au falcon would have copped some shirt fronting from their peers knowing the ls1 vt2 could be bought for same price. Same deal for those that bought the hsv VE and ignored the Miami powered GT.

From time to time one particular model car was superior to another, this is another avenue for having to justify your purchase.

Falcon SXR8 · 10-02-2015, 09:31 AM

Who decides? anyone who wants to can have a go.

I have a ba xr6 turbo did I do any good fordforums ???

galaxy xr8 · 10-02-2015, 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by HULK_I6T

For instance those who bought the Windsor v8 powered au falcon would have copped some shirt fronting from their peers knowing the ls1 vt2 could be bought for same price.

Please explain this more Hulk exactly what you mean, because the way I read it is that you are having a little snide dig at us AU owner’s once again and not being very respectful in doing so.

All you mentioned is that a windsor V8 powered AU Falcon (which could mean a T3 250kw) and a LS1 VTII (which could mean a VT executive 220kw) and your implying that a LS1 would hose it I assume as that is what you refer to going by your past history in these matter’s ?, this is also backed up by you also mentioning the miami and HSV ?.

Little do you know that in the Tickford era the AU had it all over the Commodore in the driving characteristic’s and on the bend’s which is very widely published in many reviews and magazines which you so call like to base your opinions and fact’s on.

Falcon SXR8 · 10-02-2015, 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by galaxy xr8

Please explain this more Hulk exactly what you mean, because the way I read it is that you are having a little snide dig at us AU owner’s once again and not being very respectful in doing so.

All you mentioned is that a windsor V8 powered AU Falcon (which could mean a T3 250kw) and a LS1 VTII (which could mean a VT executive 220kw) and your implying that a LS1 would hose it I assume as that is what you refer to going by your past history in these matter’s ?, this is also backed up by you also mentioning the miami and HSV ?.

Little do you know that in the Tickford era the AU had it all over the Commodore in the driving characteristic’s and on the bend’s which is very widely published in many reviews and magazines which you so call like to base your opinions and fact’s on.

100% agree I only visit these threads to see how he can work a good old au Windsor bash in and he has delivered once again. But don't worry about it just ignore it you won't convert him

HULK_I6T · 10-02-2015, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by galaxy xr8

Please explain this more Hulk exactly what you mean, because the way I read it is that you are having a little snide dig at us AU owner’s once again and not being very respectful in doing so.

All you mentioned is that a windsor V8 powered AU Falcon (which could mean a T3 250kw) and a LS1 VTII (which could mean a VT executive 220kw) and your implying that a LS1 would hose it I assume as that is what you refer to going by your past history in these matter’s ?, this is also backed up by you also mentioning the miami and HSV ?.

Little do you know that in the Tickford era the AU had it all over the Commodore in the driving characteristic’s and on the bend’s which is very widely published in many reviews and magazines which you so call like to base your opinions and fact’s on.

paranoid?

Let me clarify, from time to time there are like for like models that are in the same price point but there is a huge disparity in their performance..

For instance anyone who buys the VE clubsport when they could have bought a miami powered FPV GT for the same price need to be shirt fronted. same price and big disparity on performance..

Same deal with an AU XR8 when compared with a VT2 Ls1 commodore ss. There are plenty of examples over the years.. XR6T over the Boss 260 etc etc.

1TUFFUTE · 11-02-2015, 01:38 AM

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Originally Posted by galaxy xr8

Please explain this more Hulk exactly what you mean, because the way I read it is that you are having a little snide dig at us AU owner’s once again and not being very respectful in doing so.

All you mentioned is that a windsor V8 powered AU Falcon (which could mean a T3 250kw) and a LS1 VTII (which could mean a VT executive 220kw) and your implying that a LS1 would hose it I assume as that is what you refer to going by your past history in these matter’s ?, this is also backed up by you also mentioning the miami and HSV ?.

Little do you know that in the Tickford era the AU had it all over the Commodore in the driving characteristic’s and on the bend’s which is very widely published in many reviews and magazines which you so call like to base your opinions and fact’s on.

He clearly stated "for the same price". So unless you think a new T3 cost the same as an executive

then once again your just causing trouble by twisting words and making of it what you will!
I understood what he meant.

b2tf · 10-02-2015, 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by HULK_I6T

having to justify your purchase.

To who - blokes like you?

You come pay my rego, chip in for the purchase price of whatever I buy and then I'll give a stuff. Until then, I suggest you get a box of rubber gloves and store your opinion in a warm, dark place that follows you around.

1TUFFUTE · 11-02-2015, 02:01 AM

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Originally Posted by b2tf

To who - blokes like you?

You come pay my rego, chip in for the purchase price of whatever I buy and then I'll give a stuff. Until then, I suggest you get a box of rubber gloves and store your opinion in a warm, dark place that follows you around.

Have you ever had a Holden mate or a chick question why you bought a ford or a muscle car/fuel guzzler?

Some of you guys simply fail to see a topic for what it is. JUST stay on topic without your non moderated off topic offensive digs! Amazing......

290GTP · 09-02-2015, 06:54 PM

If i was worried about what other people think about my cars, I would just join the flock of bogan sheep and buy a Holden.

Ford fans are treated like lepers nowadays.

Iggle Piggle · 09-02-2015, 07:01 PM

The Joneses...you've just simply got to live your life trying to impress them and at least keep up with them, if not out-do them...irrespective of whether you can afford to or not in the long-run. You got to borrow and mortgage to the hilt so you can impress them and keep up appearances, otherwise who knows what they might think about you.

flooded one · 09-02-2015, 07:17 PM

why worry about them. so long as your happy with what you got. stuff everyone else

CoupeKing · 09-02-2015, 07:36 PM

The only approval I ever worried about was that from the Bank Manager. If we didn't know anything about the car we were buying, we just took someone along that did. Anything went wrong after that, just blame them for the next 20 years. All my friends drove around in dog-boxes when we were young so as long as it moved it was all good. Never stopped us from having a laugh. Now one of them has a nice handful of GT`s. The people that laughed at his and our cars back then, don't laugh so hard anymore. But some approval is good, or you could say appreciation. Like when you pass a truckie climbing a hill, and you're in a GT, he stares into his side mirror like a Seagull does watching someone eating Fish n Chips.