Bob Lutz - ":Everyone will have 5 years to get their car off the road or sell it for scrap.”

[aussiblue]

http://www.autonews.com/article/2017...-times-goodbye

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[foxtrot3]

Hi. 5 years FROM when driverless cars are becoming common............. Make it 55 years. Cheers MD

[aussiblue]

Bob says "The era of the human-driven automobile, its repair facilities, its dealerships, the media surrounding it — all will be gone in 20 years."

[OzJavelin]

Isn't he the same guy that thought the Americans would love a Holden Monaro rebadged as a Pontiac GTO?

[aussiblue]

Isn't he the same guy that thought the Americans would love a Holden Monaro rebadged as a Pontiac GTO?

Yup; and was he so wrong?

[OzJavelin]

It's an impersonal, bleak interpretation of a future where individual freedoms have been crushed ... I look forward to seeing it on NetFlix ...

[solarite_guy]

It appears to me, the panacea of the do gooder day dreamers is putting everyone out of work.

What's that saying? Rage against the machine.

[aussiblue]

Remember Bob is also a "petrol head"; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Lutz_(businessman)

Lutz is known as a collector of classic automobiles and military jets. Among other aircraft, he owns and pilots an Aero L-39 Albatros (an advanced Czechoslovakian jet fighter trainer) and an MD-500 helicopter. Further, he maintains a collection of motorcycles that include a Suzuki Hayabusa, a BMW K1200RS, a BMW K1200S, a BMW R1100S, a BMW K-1 and a BMW HP2 Sport.

[solarite_guy]

Originally Posted by aussiblue

Remember Bob is also a "petrol head"; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Lutz_(businessman)

Right and I think Lutz is attempting to wake folks up to a path being taken.

[Burnout]

Originally Posted by aussiblue

http://www.autonews.com/article/2017...-times-goodbye

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Bloke's menopausal....

[GO FURTHER]

Son to dad: "Dad... What should I do for a living when I grow up?"

Dad:... "Scrap Merchant son... Going to be big business!"

[Sprintey]

"Then, as you approach your exit, your module will enter deceleration lanes, exit and go to your final destination. You will be billed for the transportation. You will enter your credit card number or your thumbprint or whatever it will be then. The module will take off and go to its collection point, ready for the next person to call.
Most of these standardized modules will be purchased and owned by the Ubers and Lyfts and God knows what other companies that will enter the transportation business in the future."




It's going to be a golden age for throwing up in vehicles, then exiting and daintily walking away with nary a care in the world.

[au350hp]

We in Australia, are unique in that our towns & cities are thousands of miles apart. Whilst Melbourne & Sydney may one day, bring in some automated system, the idea of it spreading further than the city limits is absurd. Look at the cost & time involved with the NBN. Can you imagine Australia trying to implement a country wide automated transport system? That alone will see us driving our oil/petrol using cars for a long long time.

[Blue Roo]

If the Future holds for us, the Autonomous Electric Vehicle. What will the State and Federal Governments would do, for the loss of Revenue from the Speed Cameras.
Now that would be a crying shame. Wouldn't it.

[roKWiz]

Originally Posted by Blue Roo

If the Future holds for us, the Autonomous Electric Vehicle. What will the State and Federal Governments would do, for the loss of Revenue from the Speed Cameras.
Now that would be a crying shame. Wouldn't it.

I want to know where all this electricity is coming from to charge these things, when we can't even keep the lights on in summer.

[GO FURTHER]

Originally Posted by roKWiz

I want to know where all this electricity is coming from to charge these things, when we can't even keep the lights on in summer.

Whether we like it or not, eventually Australia will have to go nuclear.

[DJR-351]

Originally Posted by roKWiz

I want to know where all this electricity is coming from to charge these things, when we can't even keep the lights on in summer.

http://www.smh.com.au/business/energ...29-gyrsvj.html

[simon varley]

Bob who?

[Maka]

While the world is in chaos atm, a chirpy vision of the future is offered...Welcome to the brave new world, dont think, just accept it ok lol!

Umm, imo wont happen unless something else is the precursor..

cheers, Maka

[solarite_guy]

Originally Posted by Maka

Umm, imo wont happen unless something else is the precursor..

I hate to imagine what that precursor might be.

[GO FURTHER]

Originally Posted by solarite_guy

I hate to imagine what that precursor might be.

What was the precursor that took us from the horse and cart to the automobile?

It's called progress... For better or worse.

[solarite_guy]

Originally Posted by GO FURTHER

What was the precursor that took us from the horse and cart to the automobile?

It's called progress... For better or worse.

I don't know if that is a good analogy.

I think of both of those modes of transportation being increasing forms of independence and freedom.

What I see portrayed here is a path towards the borg collective. This is a paradigm change. We have seen encroachments to independence over the years, but in all honesty, I had very similar thoughts as mentioned by Maka about Brave New World and other Sci-Fi novels I read in younger years. I don't have a good feeling about relinquishing myself to big brother.

[GO FURTHER]

Originally Posted by solarite_guy

What I see portrayed here is a path towards the borg collective. This is a paradigm change. We have seen encroachments to independence over the years, but in all honesty, I had very similar thoughts as mentioned by Maka about Brave New World and other Sci-Fi novels I read in younger years. I don't have a good feeling about relinquishing myself to big brother.

I hear what you are saying.

Unfortunately though, most of us have already relinquished ourselves to big brother in one way or another.

... Social Media, The Internet and IP tracking, Mobile phone tracking, spending patterns on our credit cards, city surveillance cameras, and the list goes on.

The government and big corporations know more about you than your parents these days.

[Mercury Bullet]

Originally Posted by solarite_guy

I don't know if that is a good analogy.

I think of both of those modes of transportation being increasing forms of independence and freedom.

What I see portrayed here is a path towards the borg collective. This is a paradigm change. We have seen encroachments to independence over the years, but in all honesty, I had very similar thoughts as mentioned by Maka about Brave New World and other Sci-Fi novels I read in younger years. I don't have a good feeling about relinquishing myself to big brother.

If seven of nine is there sign me up for the collective!

[burnz]

Originally Posted by GO FURTHER

What was the precursor that took us from the horse and cart to the automobile?

It's called progress... For better or worse.

prohibition... from alcohol to oil.., remember!!

[chrisandsharon]

.......merging with other cars on the freeway at 150mph

This bloke is from the future, or another planet.

The government thinks in 4 yr blocks, look at the mess we’re in with power as one example. Maybe this will happen but it won’t be in my lifetime.

[aussiblue]

Just drop all those worthless gtho phase 3s off at my house ill dispose of them

Sssh; you'll give the game away; Bob and I are conspiring to create a super-car price crash.

I wonder what the solution will be for those who tow trailers. Will they have 'modules' for horses that can be called upon with the same short notice as a module for people? How will it handle the deceleration given that the cargo can't be strapped in?

Originally Posted by Sprintey

It's going to be a golden age for throwing up in vehicles, then exiting and daintily walking away with nary a care in the world.

If they can make a road network that is 100% automated, I am confident they can include sensors in the modules that detect the presence of biofluids within the module. I'd gather those sensors will then tell local cleanup crews and/or local police/yadda yadda

[Fordman1]

Originally Posted by aussiblue

http://www.autonews.com/article/2017...-times-goodbye

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Fruitcake,

Good luck with that in rural Australia, or even the mid west USA

[Bossxr8]

Maybe in 50 years time. No way it will be 5, 10 or even 20. Look how shabby our public transport infastructure is. Does anyone seriously think our roads will ever be good enough for this. To work properly the roads will more than likely be need to be designed from scratch to suit.