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Old 29-01-2021, 01:06 PM   #1
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Anyone interested in getting a near new FG X XR8? This is advertised at $90k +orc. Wonder where it has been sitting for the last 6 years?

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That’s an old car now. New ones are safer, and that also has no warranty. A smart buyer would prefer an Aurion.
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Talso has no warranty.
might still have the new car warranty if its never been sold....
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might still have the new car warranty if its never been sold....
Would only have whatever dealer warranty they choose to sell with it. its even listed under used cars
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Well, I already have one and I didn't pay $90,000!!!





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That’s an old car now. New ones are safer, and that also has no warranty. A smart buyer would prefer an Aurion.
A Smart buyer would prefer a WHAT...to an FGX XR8 ??? Is that your idea of a Joke, or do you have a medical problem? LOL
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My guess is the owner put it away for 'investment' but is trying to make their money in a current inflated market.

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There is a similar case at the Stanthorpe Ford dealer. 2016 White FG-X XR8, ZF box etc. Has been on the showroom floor for years. I have stopped in there a few times to take a look, I asked about the warranty and the Sales Manager said that Ford made them register it in 2017 or so, because they didn't want it on their inventory anymore as an unsold new car.

Now, whether it was Head Office, or the DP that wanted it off the books as a new car, I don't know, but I would suspect the same would apply here and there would be no new car warranty with the sale...

He also said they had no real intention of actually selling it and the DP is a bit of a collector - but would certainly sell it for the right price to the right buyer.
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There is a similar case at the Stanthorpe Ford dealer. 2016 White FG-X XR8, ZF box etc. Has been on the showroom floor for years. I have stopped in there a few times to take a look, I asked about the warranty and the Sales Manager said that Ford made them register it in 2017 or so, because they didn't want it on their inventory anymore as an unsold new car.

Now, whether it was Head Office, or the DP that wanted it off the books as a new car, I don't know, but I would suspect the same would apply here and there would be no new car warranty with the sale...

He also said they had no real intention of actually selling it and the DP is a bit of a collector - but would certainly sell it for the right price to the right buyer.
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There is a similar case at the Stanthorpe Ford dealer. 2016 White FG-X XR8, ZF box etc. Has been on the showroom floor for years. I have stopped in there a few times to take a look, I asked about the warranty and the Sales Manager said that Ford made them register it in 2017 or so, because they didn't want it on their inventory anymore as an unsold new car.

Now, whether it was Head Office, or the DP that wanted it off the books as a new car, I don't know, but I would suspect the same would apply here and there would be no new car warranty with the sale...

He also said they had no real intention of actually selling it and the DP is a bit of a collector - but would certainly sell it for the right price to the right buyer.
I guess a car is only worth what someone is willing to pay. So either no one wants it or they want too much for it. I really don't see these cars going up in value. They weren't really selling when they were building them so why would they sell for so much more now?

I bought my XR50 from the Stanthorpe dealer. It was the last new one in Australia available for sale. But I paid $1700 less than Ford's price.
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I guess a car is only worth what someone is willing to pay. So either no one wants it or they want too much for it. I really don't see these cars going up in value. They weren't really selling when they were building them so why would they sell for so much more now?

I bought my XR50 from the Stanthorpe dealer. It was the last new one in Australia available for sale. But I paid $1700 less than Ford's price.
Honestly, I don't think they mind either way if it sells, from the conversation I had. When I asked him how much he'd sell it for, he said around 55k/60k. Not at all unreasonable.

Again, it's not advertised anywhere and it's tucked wayyyy up the back of the showroom, so I'm not sure they are desperate to sell.
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Honestly, I don't think they mind either way if it sells, from the conversation I had. When I asked him how much he'd sell it for, he said around 55k/60k. Not at all unreasonable.

Again, it's not advertised anywhere and it's tucked wayyyy up the back of the showroom, so I'm not sure they are desperate to sell.
Good point overall on the car - there are many a DP over the years who are collectors enthusiasts themselves - high price is that he wants it in his stable but if he gets a bite near the $90k wouldn’t be surprised he’ll pocket the dollars.
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Interesting comments about the value of a second hand FG X XR8. Last July, I renewed my insurance, choosing to go with Shannons becaise of the low premium, associated with the low kms I now travel in mine.

During the renewal process, I negotiated with them on the agreed value for my car. My car had around 55000km on it at the time. I had a hard time getting them to move much on the agreed value, eventually ending up at $48k. One reference i used was carsales which showed that similar km cars were asking a little more than Shannons' original offer. We eventually agreed on the $48k, but only after I mentioned that my car had a sunroof fitted.

If the (reasonable) carsales advertised prices are in the ballpark of the sale price, I think there's room for my agreed value to be raised a bit come renewal time.

The reason I saw the ad I posted was because I sample the market value occasionally, and I have noted that the second hand asking prices have certainly increased over the last couple of years, and that includes a corresponding increase in odometer readings, too.

I bought my XR8 in early 2015 and probably paid a premium wanting it at the height of the interest in them. I was comfortable with what I paid (just over $60k driveaway including sunroof, IIRC) and am still happy with what I paid now. $10k over the life of the car is nothing. And considering that I could now get around $50k for it after 5 years and near on 60000km on the clock, I think it's holding it's value rather well.
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from a collector point of view better value in a sprint
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from a collector point of view better value in a sprint
agreed, no dis respect to the FGXXR8's mind you.
He's dreaming BUT IF someone wants and willing to pay up to them.

A 6000klm Sprint 8 sold at Austion the other day for $75,250.00.
Not bad to me for as mentioned at least its a LE.

superfly, I think you'll be proven wrong as pricing the last 12mths is staying pretty good for most last of Falcons in good nic.
I have known of a couple other recent FGX purchase's at low k's and not far off New price.
I also had Insurance renewal last week, Agreed Value is on my purchase price, they wouldn't agree to that unless the research proves otherwise.
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I'm sure the warranty starts when the car is registered.

My 2016 car with a 5 years warranty expires in mid 2022. 5 Years after I bought it.
No idea if there's a limit though. 6 year old brand new car is a strange concept.
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There a few going in the $50-60k range on the used car market which I consider a good buy. Low kays but it is a small market to pay $90k for it I reckon.
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VIN check from the ad, vehicle was first registered with Ford 2/6/2015 meaning the warranty expired 2/6/2018 although it seems it has never been road registered.

I dont think this is worth $90K, that is FPV GT/GTF territory. I would say more like $50-60K. A Sprint would bring a little more.

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It's very tasty though - best colour and a cappuccino interior would make it my dream combo.
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FPVs and HSVs seem to be disappearig from the roads theze days. I rarely see them anymore.

This car would purely be a collectors item and not driven I suspect.
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I bought a 2015 brand new for $53500. That was in the kinetic blue.

That maroon colour was also available at $52500.. noone wanted it as the sprint models were just being released.

I sold mine as I thought it was a boring drive with too much understeer.

At the time there was a white Manuel at $59990... the market was flooded with auto xr8s. Should have bought the manual

I'd buy that car but no warranty and depreciation, I'll give him $45k

You found it boring. Why are you only telling us all now?
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I bought a 2015 brand new for $53500. That was in the kinetic blue.

That maroon colour was also available at $52500.. noone wanted it as the sprint models were just being released.

I sold mine as I thought it was a boring drive with too much understeer.

At the time there was a white Manuel at $59990... the market was flooded with auto xr8s. Should have bought the manual

I'd buy that car but no warranty and depreciation, I'll give him $45k
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The fgx xr8 had the worst premium sound setup possible.

It had no volume to it at all.

The old premium sound of the E series or b series was way better.

And yes it did understeer real bad
You owned one- which I understand by your posts you say you did? Never discovered the accelerator? That took care of understeer if you know how to drive.

And the understeer only becomes transparent when you push the FGX XR8 towards the edge of the performance envelope, and frankly no way you should be approaching that generally on public roads.

Hell on a track day at Marulan, which is a very tight circuit, understeer was not the problem, the problem was traction control off, getting the power down in a smooth way to avoid oversteer which was the kiss of death to times. Understeer was not an issue.

Agreed with the standard FGX XR8 having no volume. The actual head unit produces good clean amplification with good hz and khz range. Simple fix is to put Mustang amplifier in boot to boost subwoofer, and put in highly sensitive x 4 speakers to replace cardboard crap with good db per 1 watt sensitivities. All up a $500 to $600.00 fix for decent sound.

Really looking for pubic hairs on a gnat eh.
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Unless you want 4 doors or don't plan on driving it, I would get a mustang for the extra tech and warranty and pocket the change.
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If it's not worth it then find a other one on the same condition for a lower price? Would not be many to choose from!
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If it's not worth it then find a other one on the same condition for a lower price? Would not be many to choose from!
But you're still buying a car that's a 7 year old series that is based on a 13 year old series. The whole advantage these cars had was that they were bang for buck rather than technical marvels.

You are approaching Audi RS3, BMW x340i (or M2CS), AMG C43 money, which are all a few generations ahead now.
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Correct it's straight to collectable status. It's not a new car buyer that's attracted to it really. It's an enthusiast, warranty means absolutely nothing. If they still made them, then it might be different, however the low production numbers will ensure their value.
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Funny thing is, the original owner of this car had it listed for sale on justmusclecars.com.au on the 21st of November, 2020 for $59,000, so the dealer who purchased it are a pack of you know what’s!
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