H4 Xenon Gas Discharge Conversion Kit

AnthonyQLD · 07-12-2005, 12:10 PM

Has anyone put one of these kits ( http://db.hella.com.au/cgi-bin/catal...w&flmaint=2085 ) on there AU XR? How hard are they to install?

thanks in advance

Orbit · 07-12-2005, 03:11 PM

hmm....since the reflector wasn't designed for HID use i'd be guessing that there will be quite a bit of glare produced. also the hella H4 is for off road only and doesn't comply with any ADR and there fore not legal for on road use, so in my book more trouble then it's worth.

AnthonyQLD · 07-12-2005, 04:23 PM

^^^ I was thinking that but just thought i would ask thanks for your help

ilsautomotive · 07-12-2005, 04:27 PM

If you were prepared to retrofit HID projectors it could be done properly, but it would take a lot of dedication. I have a similar kit in my Eunos with stock projectors, which is OK but not ideal.

A good link is http://www.hidplanet.com/forums/

Orbit · 07-12-2005, 05:33 PM

the main reason to upgrade to HID is to increase your light, or drop your total amp draw....if you just want looks there are other options for your car that are safer(legally speaking). if you want increased lowbeam contrast ie higher tempreature colour out put from your low beam consider upgrading your car....as the AU low beam is pretty darn good.

AnthonyQLD · 07-12-2005, 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Orbit

the main reason to upgrade to HID is to increase your light, or drop your total amp draw....if you just want looks there are other options for your car that are safer(legally speaking). if you want increased lowbeam contrast ie higher tempreature colour out put from your low beam consider upgrading your car....as the AU low beam is pretty darn good.

What are the standard globes that were put in the AU's? The ones that are in my AU are crap they have no spread at all. I was thinking of trying the philips vision plus. Does anyone know how well they work?

sly · 18-08-2007, 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by AnthonyQLD

What are the standard globes that were put in the AU's? The ones that are in my AU are crap they have no spread at all. I was thinking of trying the philips vision plus. Does anyone know how well they work?

Check your headlight alignment. I found my right side light was aimed for koala spotting when the left globe blew. Aimed it back down & it's 1000% better. FWIW I use Narva Arctic Blue or Hella Plus 50's and am happy with both.

INJECTED_250 · 07-12-2005, 08:42 PM

DAmm.... AU's would have to have the best headlights of any falcon ever.... aslong as youre not driving towards them that is

galaxy xr8 · 07-12-2005, 09:11 PM

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DAmm.... AU's would have to have the best headlights of any falcon ever.... aslong as youre not driving towards them that is

I agree, the AU light's are very good.

Lukeyson · 07-12-2005, 09:31 PM

i know what your meaning 'ahhhh my retina' is what i scream every AU i pass at night

Orbit · 07-12-2005, 10:02 PM

narva artic's are prett ygood and the philips are pretty good too.
what are your reflectors like? there might be more problems then just your globes

bigred · 08-12-2005, 04:10 AM

I have a set of bi-xenons H4's in my AU2 Ghia. They do the high beam, by using an actuator thats part of the bulb.

They are the retrofit kit as seen on ebay and hella. I just make sure that I have the main bean probably a little bit lower than the correctly aimed setting to accomodate the power of the xenons.

As for the police, I have had these bad boys in for about 2 days, and driven past 3 coppers, and noone had a poblem, even when I was following one for a brief period.

They look great though and the light is awesome.

The Dok · 08-12-2005, 08:44 AM

The AUXR come std with H4 60/55 (dual filament) globes. Also they have a metal reflector body & glass lens (totally inseperatable) therefore making any modification virtually impossible. My advice would be to install Philips Crystal Vision or Blue Vision 60/55 watts. Using a higher wattage in these headlights (or any for that matter) only results in overloading/overheating the electrical system & burning of the reflector surface.

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AnthonyQLD · 08-12-2005, 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by The Dok

The AUXR come std with H4 60/55 (dual filament) globes. Also they have a metal reflector body & glass lens (totally inseperatable) therefore making any modification virtually impossible. My advice would be to install Philips Crystal Vision or Blue Vision 60/55 watts. Using a higher wattage in these headlights (or any for that matter) only results in overloading/overheating the electrical system & burning of the reflector surface.

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How do those lights go in the wet? I have heard that the whiter lights reflect alot in the wet!

boodek · 11-12-2005, 10:11 PM

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Using a higher wattage in these headlights (or any for that matter) only results in overloading/overheating the electrical system & burning of the reflector surface.

Nonsense. These Hella lights have been around for years, fitted to various cars (HZ Kingswoods and Premiers come to mind) and are quite capable of coping with much higher wattage globes and voltages. I once had a 1978 Galant with 4 of the smaller 5 1/2" lights fitted - 2 high/low beam and 2 high, and the worked alternator was putting out around 15v, driving 100w highs and 90w lows. There was no sign of damage at all to the lights. That's the beauty of glass lenses and metal reflectors! The larger 7" lights will happily run 130w high beams.

**Mechan1k** · 10-12-2005, 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by bigred

I have a set of bi-xenons H4's in my AU2 Ghia. They do the high beam, by using an actuator thats part of the bulb.

They are the retrofit kit as seen on ebay and hella. I just make sure that I have the main bean probably a little bit lower than the correctly aimed setting to accomodate the power of the xenons.

As for the police, I have had these bad boys in for about 2 days, and driven past 3 coppers, and noone had a poblem, even when I was following one for a brief period.

They look great though and the light is awesome.

I've had my JSM Bi-xenon kit in my ute for over 6 months now ... I drive during the day with low beam on (i'm a courier and prefer to drive with lights on all the time for safety) ... I pass so many Police it is not funny .... I have not been pulled over at all.

Mine run at a colour temp of 6000K ... and kinda look blue ... more white than anything at night though ... I also have adjustment set down a bit as well to reduce glare.

But they are not ideal though ... hence why I will be retro-fitting HID projectors into my aftermarket AU headlights soon ... when money and time permits ... then I will have a perfect flat top beam with no glare whatsoever.

Mind you I was flashed by a Bombadore last night (after he flashed the VW Touareg (with HIDs) further in front of me .... they VW driver flashed him back ... so he decided to flash me as well ... poor bastard didn't realise I had a set of LightForce 240 Striker driving lights on the front of the ute as well. ... I think he was seeing stars/spots/was blind after I flashed him back.

Hope that taught him a lesson.

Orbit · 10-12-2005, 10:12 AM

hahaha thats classic. i got highbeamed on the narromine straight a fair while ago buy some turak tractor.....had to actually stop and pull over, so i flashed back...only thing is i run 280watts of HID

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ilsautomotive · 08-12-2005, 10:55 AM

That is true, but blue-tinted bulbs of any sort generally have the same heat issue as they try to immitate the pure white light of 4300k HID. The tint creates a whiter light by reducing the yellow from the spectrum, but of course that energy is turned into heat and effectively means reduced output and increased wiring/reflector damage.

Orbit · 08-12-2005, 11:00 AM

big red. do you have any pictures or more specs?

AnthonyQLD · 08-12-2005, 12:45 PM

according to Philips the Crystal vision is not approved for road use! has anyone ever had any trouble?

What type are the highbeems in the AU? H1 or H7?

The Dok · 08-12-2005, 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by AnthonyQLD

according to Philips the Crystal vision is not approved for road use! has anyone ever had any trouble?

What type are the highbeems in the AU? H1 or H7?

I have Philips Blue Vision in 1 of my vehicles (AU) no problems in the wet here either. AU highbeam is H1.

AnthonyQLD · 08-12-2005, 04:24 PM

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I have Philips Blue Vision in 1 of my vehicles (AU) no problems in the wet here either. AU highbeam is H1.

Do you have blue vision in your highbeam to?

thanks for all the help people :eclipsee_

The Dok · 08-12-2005, 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by AnthonyQLD

Do you have blue vision in your highbeam to?

thanks for all the help people :eclipsee_

No........didn't see the need as most of the driving I do doesn't require the use of high-beam.

**DJM83** · 15-12-2005, 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by AnthonyQLD

according to Philips the Crystal vision is not approved for road use! has anyone ever had any trouble?

What type are the highbeems in the AU? H1 or H7?

i bought a set of crytal visions for my XR they were costly $100 and they are only garranted for 500hrs considering i drive with lights on everytime i get in the car its aint much i only had then for 4 mths and 1 crapped itself i ended up gettin a replacement set but i wont be buying another set thought but they are very good though produce heaps of light over a wide spread (maybe enhanced cause of the XR style light set up) worked well headlight covers on or off wat kinda life should u expect from a set of headlight globes Dok?

The Dok · 15-12-2005, 05:10 PM

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wat kinda life should u expect from a set of headlight globes Dok?

There is no hard & fast rule regarding headlight globe life, so many parameters come into play, ie: heat displacement within the headlight for starters, having said that, 500 hours is not a bad lifespan, it's brand dependant really, but for my money, Philips have the best reputation/value for money with say......Narva a long way behind, Ford use a combination of Philips/Narva so I guess they have faith in their reliability. Here is a list (in no particular order,) of different brands off the top of my head, some ok, some rubbish.
Norma
Osram
Duolux
GE
Raylite
Three L
Austa
Tungsram
Koito
Mitsubishi
Sylvania

romaniac · 08-12-2005, 08:05 PM

im using phillips diamond vision, great light and no problems from police

Orbit · 08-12-2005, 08:52 PM

i've got them in both.....and lots of other big lights as i do most of my driving in the middle of knowwhere at stupid oclock.
like DOK said, if you don't need them don't worry abou them

AnthonyQLD · 08-12-2005, 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by romaniac

im using phillips diamond vision, great light and no problems from police

Philips say that Diamond vision has less intensity to a standard globe. Do you find this to be a problem? They are also a 5000K colour so I presume that they are very white/ blue????

Has anyone tried the Vision plus globes.
philips say up to 50% more light on the road in low beam and 10-20m extra on high beam.

luke · 08-12-2005, 09:51 PM

UITABLE FOR OFF-ROAD APPLICATIONS ONLY. NOT ADR COMPLIANT OR LEGAL FOR ROAD USE. Fitment and use is only permitted for H4 headlamp systems with integral globe shield.

Shouldn't matter anyway? Off road my a**

romaniac · 09-12-2005, 01:38 AM

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Originally Posted by AnthonyQLD

Philips say that Diamond vision has less intensity to a standard globe. Do you find this to be a problem? They are also a 5000K colour so I presume that they are very white/ blue????

Has anyone tried the Vision plus globes.
philips say up to 50% more light on the road in low beam and 10-20m extra on high beam.

nope, i found them to be brighter than my normal lights. The light is a white/blue yes.