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All the recent media talk about hoons, speeding, high power cars, drink driving etc, and no mention of what I feel is the biggest safety issue at present. Mobile phone useage.
How many times do you follow a car with the speed flucuating by 20-30kmh, wandering from their lane only to find they are on the phone. When will authorities get serious and intoduce penalties that reflect the possable consequences of the crime. Everyone is well aware if you drink drive you will loose your licence, if you speed excessively same story but every second car seems to driven by someone on the phone and it is viewed as acceptable. Given research shows using a hands free setup your reaction times are similar to low range alcohol, how can useing a phone without hands free or texting be seen as acceptable and cop such a small penalty. Something is seriously wrong with the present road safety message. |
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Using a phone attracts a fine and 3 points off your licence in Victoria.
How much more serious do you suggest they make it? |
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^^^^^Double that. Or at least the same as high range PCA.
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Whenever I am being tailgated the person is usually on their mobile phone. I sometimes give em a bit of a scare by putting on the brakes for a second or two, helps em realise they are driving stupidly.
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Shouldn't the penalties reflect the seriousness of the offence. Drink driving will result in licence cancellation, excessive speeding will see you walking. Using a phone should have the same result. The current penalties send the wrong message, How about a 30 day suspension for a first offence, with increased penalties for repeat offenders. Maybe they could even use the 3 strikes policy and crush cars of 3 time offenders. ![]() |
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in nsw a taxi or bus driver looses there public passenger authority if caught twice in 5 years. i agree handheld mobile use is dangerous but while we are on the subject of dangerous activity while driving high on the list is smoking while driving lighting up is a major distraction not to mention a dropped cigarette or hot ash . smoking while driving should be treated like drink driving
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It's 3 demerit points and a $234 fine here in Victoria.
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Perhaps just turning your lights on is a far safer option...gets a similar reaction, but only if the person tailgating you is concentrating in the first place! |
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Even hands free is a worry because the person starts concentration on what's being said, you can tell a passenger hang on and they see you're busy. Anyone on a phone while driving should have a 3 months suspension immediately, if people pull over and answer the phone in park/neutral and hand brake on, that should be allowed. Make tailgating within 1-2 car lengths at 60 -100 kph = 4 points an $400 fine, that way if drivers do it twice in 12 months they can walk for 3 months. |
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It is an offence to smoke in a vehical in NSW if any of the passangers are under 16 so they are already part of the way there to a total ban. |
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i spend about 3 hours a day on the phone out of 8.
if i didnt drive whilst talking i would never get any work done. most of my driving is only done on a doh housing estate so i know the roads better than my own street. the cops all know me out there and i even get waved at whilst im on the phone. |
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and you havent heard of bluetooth hands free or are you exempt from the law???
by your logic it would be ok to drink drive as long as you know you know the streets well, or if your job entails long business lunches it would be ok to drink drive as otherwise you wouldn't get any work done!!!!!!!!!!!!!! you won't get much work done when you loose your licence for thinking you are above the law. morons like you should walk Quote:
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thought i would get that sort of reply.
just thought it would be fun to stir the pot. i use bluetooth in the hilux as i made the boss install it at a cost of 800 bucks, police ended up calling my boss a yaer ago saying one more time that we catch him we will fine him. you need to relax mate. but everyone has talked on the phone whist driving at one time |
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And i love driving along reading my street directory cos i don't have a crappy GPS thingy either..
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Loss of licence or jail time would soon get the message across. |
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Without upseting any of our female members in my 30,000 kms of driving a year it seems young females are the worse for this behaviour, whether it be they are talking on the phone or txting.... I was on the freeway the other night heading into the city and there was a girl in the middle lane on the phone doing 80 all over the place.. Talk about a danger to themselves and every other poor human being who shares the same roads.
In saying that however I seen a young P plater male on the phone the other day too with the window down, did i blow him up!! LOL!! They are already inexperienced enough without having the distraction of a phone in their hand.. Disgraceful. |
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the cops dont care about it unless you lie to them and tell them you wernt on the phone.
the good thing is that it is becoming in my view less common as a lot of new cars are coming with bluetooth as standard. both my hilux and the xr8 have it. |
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Driving along while at work, i would have to say at least 1 in every 10 cars that pass me or i pass, someone is on the phone.
They need to enforce the no phone law more tbh. |
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Every second truck driver is on the phone too.
I drive for a living and everyday i'm at work i will see on average 7-8 people on the phone or texting and im not even looking for it, thats just the ones that stand out cos they're wandering into my lane or doing something else that stupid. So how many cop cars both marked and unmarked are on the roads every day ??? Why cant they see them ???
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I hope that someone like Kenworth soon make a bluetooth kit available fully integrated in the truck that actually works, coz standard car ones dont seem to, unless you drive a Volvo ![]() |
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starting to get off topic but truck cbs are they aloud to use them or is it the same kind of rule for phones. also found out the other day that you cant drink [coke] and drive
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And Kenworth wont put full integrated bluetooth in, hell they only just started putting airbags into selected models. And the Volvo kit is useless, so pathetic that work ended up putting phone kits in the new 520's instead. |
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Simple solution. If you absolutely need to talk on a phone, then use Bluetooth. At least both hands are on the wheel. I have Bluetooth on my Fiesta, but even still that's just as distracting, so is listening to music or if you have too much on your mind your driving suffers. Even the voice control unit on my car is distracting, the signs on the side of the road are distracting, I could go on. We all know talking on your mobile is illegal, but it's just common sense to not do it and while we can fine people till they are bankrupt, we can't give them a brain and tell them to use it...
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Speaking of 'phones, I have a good solution which stops me from using my 'phone in my car - a loud exhaust. It's true, loud pipes save lives! Even if I wanted to I'd never be able to hear a damn thing on my 'phone in my car if I'm driving along. Works for me!
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I was waiting for a car that was reversing to a car parkwhile on the phone,taking there time,soI went on the horn,and I was yelled at.
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A few weeks ago in outer Melbourne I was behind a little red car weaving all over the road. When I was finally able to pass her, I s*** you not, it turns out she had a mobile to her ear with one hand and the other hand had a large ceramic mug of (presumably) a hot drink of some sort
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