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Old 13-09-2011, 01:34 PM   #1
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Yes I have applied for oil and gas aswell, I reckon I spent a week solid applying and not getting anything done for uni..LOL

Im keen as mustard, my father in law worked for Schlumberger and did really well for himself and thats basically what I want to do, something in the resources, FIFO.

Although being in VIC makes a a tad tougher, there are a few HQ's here but thats about it.

Vacation applications close this month, and then I think October they start having interviews. Im through to the next round with Rio but the process is so looong.
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Yes I have applied for oil and gas aswell, I reckon I spent a week solid applying and not getting anything done for uni..LOL

Im keen as mustard, my father in law worked for Schlumberger and did really well for himself and thats basically what I want to do, something in the resources, FIFO.

Although being in VIC makes a a tad tougher, there are a few HQ's here but thats about it.

Vacation applications close this month, and then I think October they start having interviews. Im through to the next round with Rio but the process is so looong.
I work for http://www.swire.com.sg/home.aspx who are based in Singapore with offices in Fremantle...

This is the project we are contracted to at the moment in Bass Strait if you are interested....

http://www.exxonmobil.com/Australia-...s_ktt_dvd.aspx

http://ret.gov.au/resources/Document...ent%20Plan.pdf

Both ESSO and McDermott have offices in Melb....

A lot of the time getting a job in this industry is word of mouth and doing the leg work to the office(s), but once you are in moving around is easy.
For me fronting up face to face has always been the best way to get the job and hasn’t failed me yet...case point the job i have now....i was living in Cairns and made a bag full of Resume's and hopped on a plane to Perth (most offshore oil & gas companies have offices in WA)....three days later i was on another plane to start work....i still had most of the resume's in my bag...

One job i was on early last year was to fly to Singapore then on to Vietnam, then a chopper out to the site in the South China Sea, is that enough FIFO for you...lol

Sorry that i can't post any links to any vacancy’s but i hope it has increased your interest, It's a very interesting and challenging industry to be in....

http://www.fordforums.com.au/showthread.php?t=11282002
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Thanks Ill do some reading up on Swire tonight. So am I wrong in assuming that there is a difference in approach for trades vs engineers? I was of the assumption that it is "easier" for trades to door knock and float to place to place as you have something to offer straight up.

Being an engineering student in reality I have nothing other than previous work experience, which while not in the industry I do hold a good CV.

Point being is its not like I can jump in a truck/on a rig and know what the heck I am doing, cant get that from a text book.

Hope that makes sense.
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Thanks Ill do some reading up on Swire tonight. So am I wrong in assuming that there is a difference in approach for trades vs engineers? I was of the assumption that it is "easier" for trades to door knock and float to place to place as you have something to offer straight up.

Being an engineering student in reality I have nothing other than previous work experience, which while not in the industry I do hold a good CV.

Point being is its not like I can jump in a truck/on a rig and know what the heck I am doing, cant get that from a text book.

Hope that makes sense.
The engineers on the ships i work on are from trade backgrounds and whose function is to maintain and repair the ships engines and systems, the engineers on the platforms, rigs and construction side of things are like you and are university educated engineers....

This can include Mechanical, Electrical, Structural, Construction and Oil Field Engineers etc...it all depends on what you specialise in, the industry encompasses them all, and many of them DO go from employer to employer on a freelance basis....

Don’t worry too much about looking into Swires, to work on the ship side of things you need to accumulate some sea time and do a stint at maritime collage, and as i said above, prefer those with a trade background...

With your qualifications you need to be researching the Oil companies and those involved in Offshore Oil Field Construction and Maintenance, find out exactly what they want then go from there....

A lot of these companies like to get a hold of students so they can mould them into their way of thinking....some like to call it brainwashing....lol
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^ Do they have any non-skilled workers on these oil rigs?

I'm doing an apprenticeship but unless I can get an unskilled job in the mines or oil/gas I'll finish it, then ditch.
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Yep, some do. On the Songa rig I was on we had roughnecks straight from Karratha Kmart well, they were eager enough anyways.

We also used OMS (offshore maintenance services) as a labour hire mob for these guys.

One young bloke from Karratha said it was his first job and that he went and did a TBOSIET (HUET) course just to have a crack.
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I have been looking at jobs in the mining sector, after I lost one of mine a few months ago, (& look to lose the other soon... Thats 2 in six months, both long time employers!) & will read through the rest of this thread a little later (12 pages, phew, thats some info).

The problem I have found is that looking at jobs in mining is like looking for a needle in a stack of needles. & Unfortunately all the jobs I find require tickets & experience.

Im certainly not saying "I cant find a job". Well I am, but not as a person who isnt prepared to look. I just dont know the prime locations to look. Seek has has a whole heap that require experience. But there again, seek is a bit "general" & not mining orientated.

So, can someone push me in the right direction to find something as a cleanskin? Im not afraid of hard work, & quite honest am looking for something that doesnt have me sitting or standing in front of a computer all day. Money is VERY tight ATM due to the loss of the first job, so going for licences & tickets is out. Otherwise I would train up & then pound the pavement (the way I would prefer).

So what are the positions available to cleanskins, & where are the best places to look for them? Websites, Big News papers.
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I'm interested to hear about all the couples who work in the mines, how you got started and your experiences.

The mrs and I want to go to the mines next year.

We don't have any mining experience or trade quals, she has a Diploma of Hospitality Management and 4 years of hospitality/customer service experience and I've got 4 years customer service/warehouse exp (and forklift ticket) and 3 years Govt IT (web) exp.

She wants a catering or cleaning job and I don't think she'd have too much trouble getting one.
Basically I'd take anything, cleaning or labouring or whatever so long as we work and stay at the same place. I'm reliable, fit and not afraid of a hard days work.
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I'm interested to hear about all the couples who work in the mines, how you got started and your experiences.

The mrs and I want to go to the mines next year.

We don't have any mining experience or trade quals, she has a Diploma of Hospitality Management and 4 years of hospitality/customer service experience and I've got 4 years customer service/warehouse exp (and forklift ticket) and 3 years Govt IT (web) exp.

She wants a catering or cleaning job and I don't think she'd have too much trouble getting one.
Basically I'd take anything, cleaning or labouring or whatever so long as we work and stay at the same place. I'm reliable, fit and not afraid of a hard days work.
You should'nt have any problems as they are always looking for workers.Apply to any of the companies that run the camps,ESS and Spotless are 2 of them.Most of them work 2 weeks on 1 week off.Spotless used to let their workers live permanently on site.
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You should'nt have any problems as they are always looking for workers.Apply to any of the companies that run the camps,ESS and Spotless are 2 of them.Most of them work 2 weeks on 1 week off.Spotless used to let their workers live permanently on site.
Thanks mate I'll look into those 2, really appreciate the help.
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I applied for a serviceman position last week because i was getting knocked back from rear dump jobs, because i have been out of the industry for so long ..

Well *snip* me she rings up and says i'm over qualified for the service job would i consider an operators position (rear dump)

No wonder i drink....
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just on why it can be so hard to get in... new fella with us, green as **** but keen as **** down in the city... gets up here and bugger me ya couldnt pick his bottom lip up with a shovel.... missing his mum, missing his car and missing his friggin cat..... sometimes its not for everyone.... and yeah haha i'm having a ball...
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LOL yeah but you go back to it with FIFO so whats his problem? God some people want everything.
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LOL yeah but you go back to it with FIFO so whats his problem? God some people want everything.
i'm on fairly basic rate at the moment... new job.. new town.. cleared $2k for 4 x nightshifts.. soon get over missing home....
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i'm on fairly basic rate at the moment... new job.. new town.. cleared $2k for 4 x nightshifts.. soon get over missing home....
Hell yes, while I have been applying for summer jobs I nearly fell off my chair when I saw the wage..$80k...fudge me, thats not even grad. Sign me up!

I worked for a particular Australian automotive company and I thought I was king of the hill on $35k..LOL (still, 35 for a student is nice).

Lifes all about sacrifice hey.
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Hell yes, while I have been applying for summer jobs I nearly fell off my chair when I saw the wage..$80k...fudge me, thats not even grad. Sign me up!

I worked for a particular Australian automotive company and I thought I was king of the hill on $35k..LOL (still, 35 for a student is nice).

Lifes all about sacrifice hey.
You do realise there is a reason why they have to pay so much to get people to work out there........
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You do realise there is a reason why they have to pay so much to get people to work out there........
for putting up with people like me.... hahaha.... if you can get in to it you will have an absolute ball... and earn decent kanga.... ($$$).....
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You do realise there is a reason why they have to pay so much to get people to work out there........
Yes I do, and I think you did mention it before. Id request for FIFO if possible and work longer stretches. I have a mate who works in Perth and FIFO from Vic. My father in law also did FIFO with and oil company, so while Im sure the reality is harsh Im up for it.

Having looked at numerous companies websites, there are vacancies all over the world, Angola, Russia, you name it, Id do that too. Got to give things a go while your young IMO.
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You do realise there is a reason why they have to pay so much to get people to work out there........

i agree , i'm glad you scored well guys, but be carefull , i strongly agree with chasing the money , but dont forget you always get what you pay for, money isnt just made up . be carefull remember the danger and risks involved always and you'll be ok . most high paying jobs came from dangers and risks involved not skill .
good luck guys i'm sure it would be an adventure .
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http://www.aimqld.com.au/training/mininginduction.htm

http://www.bmainduction.com.au/Pages/Home.aspx

I hope these two links assist someone because i just landed a job
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http://www.bmainduction.com.au/Pages/Home.aspx

I hope these two links assist someone because i just landed a job

congrats ! finally we hear of someone getting in . well done.
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Congratulations, do your sites cater dinner/lunch etc or is that only some mines?
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This one does...
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Yes good on ya bro , my turn i Guess :/
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So ... now i can talk from experience.

Step 1. Get an OHSA Certficate II Generic Coal Induction, it will take 3 days, is valid for 2 years and cost's around $900.

Step 2. Now go get an BMA Site induction for a 1 day refresher course $230 you will be first pick by any contractors on a BHP site.

Step 3. Get a Coal board medical, bank on $300 and once given a start date you will need to do another one including Drug test at their expense.

Step 4. Pester the heck out of anyone and everyone you send your resume too, send an e-mail but follow it up with a Ph call !

Step 5. Believe half of what ya read and just get out there and do it! I get up everyday at 6am and i don't finish replying to e-mails or making Ph calls till lunch time...

Every link i have posted on here was because i have replied to them personally myself, previous experience didn't count for naught at the last dozen or so Ph interviews and the one person i did know in a high up position and promised me a start in Ipswich let me down.

Now that i will be working on a BMA site I need to do their induction as well , but it is only a 1 day refresher for $230 because i have an up to date certificate II since July 1st... if i knew that would have opened the door for me sooner i would have done it!
I assumed the BMA induction i would complete after i got a start?

That is the only other advice i can offer team, do as much as you can and beg borrow don't steal the money to achieve what i have said above.

You will be a cut above like minded people who havn't done their homework..

Negative nelly's will always agree to disagree with what i have just posted, but hopefully the positive people can prosper from my input...

Peace out Daz...
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Well done Daz, it's all about persistence and determination.

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So ... now i can talk from experience.

Step 1. Get an OHSA Certficate II Generic Coal Induction, it will take 3 days, is valid for 2 years and cost's around $900.

Step 2. Now go get an BMA Site induction for a 1 day refresher course $230 you will be first pick by any contractors on a BHP site.

Step 3. Get a Coal board medical, bank on $300 and once given a start date you will need to do another one including Drug test at their expense.

Step 4. Pester the heck out of anyone and everyone you send your resume too, send an e-mail but follow it up with a Ph call !

Step 5. Believe half of what ya read and just get out there and do it! I get up everyday at 6am and i don't finish replying to e-mails or making Ph calls till lunch time...

Every link i have posted on here was because i have replied to them personally myself, previous experience didn't count for naught at the last dozen or so Ph interviews and the one person i did know in a high up position and promised me a start in Ipswich let me down.

Now that i will be working on a BMA site I need to do their induction as well , but it is only a 1 day refresher for $230 because i have an up to date certificate II since July 1st... if i knew that would have opened the door for me sooner i would have done it!
I assumed the BMA induction i would complete after i got a start?

That is the only other advice i can offer team, do as much as you can and beg borrow don't steal the money to achieve what i have said above.

You will be a cut above like minded people who havn't done their homework..

Negative nelly's will always agree to disagree with what i have just posted, but hopefully the positive people can prosper from my input...

Peace out Daz...
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My roster is 4 Days on 2 off then 4 Nights on and 6 off.. 12.5hr days

Looking forward to catching up with our members from the surrounding areas , my car is coming up with me initially ...
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One of my techs just got back from a year contract doing IT support for a only $200,000 in the hand.

The good part was that he was part of the support team behind the demise of Osama bin Laden.

The bad part was he was in Afganistan for a year and as a civilian could not be armed although he could be and was shot at.......
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