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Old 16-05-2008, 01:46 PM   #1
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people, im thinking about a manual conversion to make my car go harder. i have got one quote of 2500 just wanna know if everyone thinks its worth it?

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Old 16-05-2008, 01:55 PM   #2
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Auto's are faster spend $2,500 on your Auto and make it bullet proof.....
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Old 16-05-2008, 01:59 PM   #3
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Old 16-05-2008, 02:24 PM   #4
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If I was building my ED all over again.................


Tough auto.

It'll last longer than a T5, and it suits lazy sods like me

Also, stallie + shift kit = fun
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Old 16-05-2008, 03:09 PM   #5
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Look at all these lazy buggers! $2500 sounds a bit steep for a T5 conversion, as the parts are only about $500, and I can't see labor being that much! An auto might have the potential to go faster but I've found the manual 'feels' faster. I love the manual in my car. I grew up driving manuals, and gave an auto a chance. After about 4 years of owning an auto, I'd had enough. I've always felt more in control of a manual, which is why I did it.
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Old 16-05-2008, 03:56 PM   #6
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Personally, I prefer manual, it feels harder imo but my big reason for manual is the FUN!

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Old 16-05-2008, 06:05 PM   #7
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2.5k is way steep.

An EF conversion setup is under 1k these days, so no way is there $1500 in labour.
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Old 17-05-2008, 10:54 AM   #8
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Look at all these lazy buggers! $2500 sounds a bit steep for a T5 conversion, as the parts are only about $500, and I can't see labor being that much! An auto might have the potential to go faster but I've found the manual 'feels' faster. I love the manual in my car. I grew up driving manuals, and gave an auto a chance. After about 4 years of owning an auto, I'd had enough. I've always felt more in control of a manual, which is why I did it.
yea well i always thought an auto would go faster but ive had so many people try and tell me a manual will be quicker.

and i just wanna go fast, fair enough i agree that a manual is more fun but an auto is faster and thats what i want
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Old 17-05-2008, 12:10 PM   #9
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get a good auto and sit back and laugh at the manuals when they go backwards putting their foot on the clutch, whilst the auto just keeps going forward. :
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All Drag Cars - Auto
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You already have a 3,000 stall......

Just make sure your cam is matched to when your stall comes in and you will then have the fastest combination
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Old 18-05-2008, 02:21 PM   #11
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2500??? thats ridiculous.. some one has an expensive drug habit to fund... i got quoted 1250 supplied and fitted with a reco box and new clutch.. whack in a heavy duty clutch and you have an adjustable stallie
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Old 19-05-2008, 01:09 PM   #12
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yea i thought 2500 was steep as. Guess who quoted me that?
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get a good auto and sit back and laugh at the manuals when they go backwards putting their foot on the clutch, whilst the auto just keeps going forward. :
You can laugh all you want, but I take pride in that I actually "drive" the car, rather than just steer it. BTW anyone who can actually drive a manual should be able to take off without rolling back (unless it's an unfamiliar car, the clutch pickup point can take some getting used to). If you roll back when you drive a manual, obviously you aren't a good enough driver to be in one anyway.
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If you roll back when you drive a manual, obviously you aren't a good enough driver to be in one anyway.

You sound like me when my kids get to cocky behind the wheel ....
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You can laugh all you want, but I take pride in that I actually "drive" the car, rather than just steer it. BTW anyone who can actually drive a manual should be able to take off without rolling back (unless it's an unfamiliar car, the clutch pickup point can take some getting used to). If you roll back when you drive a manual, obviously you aren't a good enough driver to be in one anyway.
lol, i was driving manuals when you were still in nappies the simple fact is auto are faster. :
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lol, i was driving manuals when you were still in nappies the simple fact is auto are faster. :
and you can only drive 110 on the roads anyway, so I just want to have fun getting to the speed limit. My car isn't a drag strip warrior. It's a cruiser, so that's why I've gone the T5 option.
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$2500 seems a bit steep ive got a ea t5 conversion with everything except clutch you could have for $150 put it in yourself and save heaps pm me if your interested
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would happen to be jim mock motorsport would it mate
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I'd stick with the auto and build it up. More potential.
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Gee thats a good comparison, a 4000hp drag car to a 600hp V8 Supercar
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cant believe the people in here saying autos are faster!! or better... i converted my ef to manual 3 months ago, i wish i did it sooner, it certainly is faster, more enjoyable, sounds better, and makes more power..fact is autos are boring, i had one and it was 5hit. unless ur planning on going forced induction...manual every time.
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I agree mate id much prefer a manual in my TE but i didnt get a choice. My old XR6 was a 5sp i miss it. Manuals are heaps more involving to drive.
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I agree mate id much prefer a manual in my TE but i didnt get a choice. My old XR6 was a 5sp i miss it. Manuals are heaps more involving to drive.
thats a bummer, converting my car to manual was like getting a new car, its so different in a good way! and with 2.5 exhaust and manual im making 124rwkws not bad for a stock ef. i got my manual done for about $1100 from start to finish, so $2500 isnt to good..
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I've got a 2500-3000rpm stallie, shift kit and a ba SSS tiptronic shifter in my ef xr6 and in my situation it was a much better choice than a five speed. EF xr6 Manual ecu's are not cheap, than add the rest of the conversion on top of that price. I was a manual lover, but after this set up i'm glad i kept the auto. Its fool proof with take off's and gear changing is a lot quicker than you could ever move a stick. The ba SSS shifter is more **** factor than any thing but still makes it a lot easier to manually select gears for people who like control of their car.
If you just want to go fast, keep the auto and the stallie, and get yourself a shift kit if you don't already have one.
BTW do you mind if ask what stall speed the JMM stallie actually stalls up to on your set up.
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Gee thats a good comparison, a 4000hp drag car to a 600hp V8 Supercar
Where did you get that from lol

Why not use this comparison 600hp Drag Car vs 600hp V8Supercar then -AUTO FASTER :

Or in my case with my car AUTO faster, that means down the 1/4 mile
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would happen to be jim mock motorsport would it mate
gees that didnt take you long. not that obvious is it lol.
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BTW do you mind if ask what stall speed the JMM stallie actually stalls up to on your set up.
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Old 26-05-2008, 12:38 PM   #29
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cant believe the people in here saying autos are faster!! or better... i converted my ef to manual 3 months ago, i wish i did it sooner, it certainly is faster, more enjoyable, sounds better, and makes more power..fact is autos are boring, i had one and it was 5hit. unless ur planning on going forced induction...manual every time.
Seriously? maybe your manual "feels" faster but is it really faster down the qtr? so many people reckon that autos are faster i actually and now you say this, i dont know who to believe.
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my auto reved out to 90kms, now redlines 90 in second, its a no brainer really, its the takeoff that kills standard auto falcons, with the manual its fixed this problem. havent taken down the quarter though, it certainly feels faster though. ive read b4 that with manual its about .3 ssecs faster over 400m, compared to a standard auto.
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