Auto Classic Loose Car under W A Anti-hoon Laws - Page 3

FalconXR6 · 07-02-2010, 10:17 PM

Jesus there's some crap posted in this thread !

Bottom line; the dealer should NOT have to pay for a customers' mistake.

Police have been given WAY too much power when it comes to automotive laws.

UNR8D · 07-02-2010, 10:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by green grass

I think some of you guys are way off beam. Speed limits are for every one. If you speed dont complain when you are caught! I hope the courts impound the idiot mechanics car or better still crush it!! Same goes for the moron who took the mini for a drive. It's no one else's fault but his. I'm waiting for S.A. to crush a few cars. I personally think it may slow a few down, not all because there are far to many idiots out there, and i don't want to be killed or maimed because some moron thinks he's above the law!

welcome harrold scruby

S3SR · 07-02-2010, 10:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nstg8a

so a rental company hires out a car, and unbeknown to them the person who signs the rental agreement then hands the car over to someone else, who then goes and clocks a stupid speed, rental company then loses their car, and their income??

actually no this would in fact favour the rental company big time...... the person renting it would be liable for not returning it, therefore being charged the overtime rate of it not being returned and after 28days even if you wanted it for that long, thats a damn lot money

im sure hertz would love if you did this, plus any damage to tyres they could also charge, then the state of the car if scratched and such...... they would have a field day on you

BHDOGS · 07-02-2010, 10:27 PM

regardless of how safe a car is or where it is if doing something is illegal its illegal no matter how stupid or irrelevant the law thats whats cops jobs are to enforce laws they didnt make to people who think there stupid then all people do is crap on about how cops are this and that when the fact is just because they enforce them doesnt mean the believe them its there job stupids.

MO · 07-02-2010, 10:48 PM

This seems like an interesting thread,reminds me of a merry go round.

**Full Noise** · 08-02-2010, 04:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by S3SR

actually no this would in fact favour the rental company big time...... the person renting it would be liable for not returning it, therefore being charged the overtime rate of it not being returned and after 28days even if you wanted it for that long, thats a damn lot money

im sure hertz would love if you did this, plus any damage to tyres they could also charge, then the state of the car if scratched and such...... they would have a field day on you

FFS, why are you people arguing about this for?

In QLD, the police CAN’T impound a rental car.

It’s all on page 107 of this ****ing document, chapter 76.

http://www.legislation.qld.gov.au/LE...ePowResA00.pdf

In WA, the police CAN’T impound a rental car.

It’s all on page 15 - 80 E of this ****ing document.

http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/w...aacovb2004539/

Edit. Added this.

http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/w...4111/s80e.html

XDV800 · 08-02-2010, 09:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by green grass

I think some of you guys are way off beam. Speed limits are for every one. If you speed dont complain when you are caught! I hope the courts impound the idiot mechanics car or better still crush it!! Same goes for the moron who took the mini for a drive. It's no one else's fault but his. I'm waiting for S.A. to crush a few cars. I personally think it may slow a few down, not all because there are far to many idiots out there, and i don't want to be killed or maimed because some moron thinks he's above the law!

Yes speed limits are for everyone. There used to be some discretion given by the man in blue 10+ years ago depending on the type of attitude you portrayed when asked the question. This would give some inclination as to whether you were a risk and deserved a fine or not. At least a dozen times in my driving career i've been given a friendly reminder to "take it easy, and make sure you drive upto your abilities/to suit the conditions". Didn't cost me a cent. Had plenty that did thin my bank balance also.

Now our governments have become such blatant money grubbers, they can't see the sky for the (money)trees.

The road toll has lowered considerably over the last few decades, due mostly to the improvements in vehicle technology/drivability/safety. It is blindingly obvious. Speed cameras rate well, but lets face it, the core benefit of those things is to provide revenue.

How hard is it to realise that the core issue of why people wreck themselves on the road is because we are all individuals. Individuals that are incapable of coping with the tasks of controlling these 1.5 ton machines, mostly.

Individuals that aren't smart enough at times to factor in the consequences of this fact, or are affected by substance or circumstance, and in an instance make a wrong decision that ends in death/injury.

Individuals that believe they have total control over a situation, but don't.

It's simply human nature and no amount of law enforcement is going to stamp it out completely. Ever. Impossible.

I agree that some forms of enforcement are acceptable, but these ever increasing fiascos are just useless bully tactics that no intelligent tax paying citizen wants, or needs. The fact of the matter is that a better approach is needed to tackle evolving attitudes and new generations of motorists.

Alas I believe things will continue on the present course.
Conform, or be crushed.

mrbaxr6t · 08-02-2010, 09:39 AM

I put my shotgun into the shop to get some maintenance done cause I routinely shoot cans on my farm, and I have been missing a hell of alot lately - the idiot gunsmith shot himself in the leg with my gun and is suing me cause he can no longer walk - I told him the thing is busted

:

ok now if we be serious for a second the documents say they cant impound a rental car the car was RENTED by the car yard <wink wink> to the prat who broke the law in it. case closed no impound cause the docs say they can't maybe the car yard should have been appraised with the laws and o/n test drives cost 50 cents rental for the night probrem solvered

nstg8a · 08-02-2010, 08:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Full Noise

FFS, why are you people arguing about this for?

In QLD, the police CAN’T impound a rental car.

It’s all on page 107 of this ****ing document, chapter 76.

http://www.legislation.qld.gov.au/LE...ePowResA00.pdf

In WA, the police CAN’T impound a rental car.

It’s all on page 15 - 80 E of this ****ing document.

http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/w...aacovb2004539/

Edit. Added this.

http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/w...4111/s80e.html

lol, you right there buddy? hows that anger management course working for you?

noone is argueing about rental cars being impounded, i used rentals as an example, and some have pointed out that rental cars are exempt from the impound rules... thats it...

Green X · 08-02-2010, 09:20 PM

Originally Posted by durtyharry
"Its no different to lending a gun to someone that walks through the door and then getting upset that the police have taken it as evidence when the gun is waved around in a public place."

Well unlike a Car it’s actually illegal to lend a Gun out unless the person is licensed to use that Firearm!!

The Laws are stupid taking a person property for an offence they did not commit is bloody outrageous, even if the owner did commit the offence having an asset like a car confiscated for something as trivial as a burnout or speeding is just not on.

Falc'man · 08-02-2010, 09:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MO

This seems like an interesting thread,reminds me of a merry go round.

Don't you mean ffreakshow

:

StAndArdAU · 09-02-2010, 05:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UNR8D

it was 170 on a highway not a school zone.

170 really isn't that big a deal on an open road. yes it was illegal but until 2 years ago perfectly acceptable when traveling from Darwin to Alice springs.

Apologies for digging this back out, but the ROE HIGHWAY is one of Perths busiest roads, and is far from being an 'Open Road'. Not sure where you're from, but Roe Highway backs onto many residential areas and Industrial areas.
Check it out here.

I'd say the fact that he didnt crash doing 170km/h is credit to the car, not the driver.

I support the 'Hoon Laws' (terrible name), but i agree they need to go back to the drawing board on how they are written and implemented.

UNR8D · 09-02-2010, 09:22 AM

yes can see that its within the realms of homes, but its the same as saying that 110 would be dangerous because you can see homes in the same picture from the satellite photo. Highway is a highway, and even on the M1 in brisbane which is very similar in set up I still stand by the fact it would be outside of peek hour *impossible to speed anyways* safe to do 170+ in the right car. I'm not debating if its legal or not, Ive got an issue with everyone treating it as if it was 3pm through a school zone.