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Old 15-06-2010, 08:27 PM   #31
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why not just put the money into a 221 itself? you could still run all the 250 type stuff like big manifolds etc couldnt you?
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Old 16-06-2010, 10:35 AM   #32
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alot who done the 221 cranks in holden red motors did this so they could still retain the holden block
insurance ????,class rules, or other reasons
i mean seriously WHY would you bother putting a ford head on a holden block ???
there are some seriously tuff factory 6s out there now
must be some reason why this chap spent all this coin on a conversion
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Old 16-06-2010, 10:48 AM   #33
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So basicly what you are saying is if you want to use ford parts on a holden your head must be on backwards.....

Yeh that makes sense.
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Old 16-06-2010, 11:27 AM   #34
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What's the advantage of using a 202 short over a 250 short? The Ford crossflow head is better so in reality there must be some reason for using the 202 short otherwise why not just use the whole crossflow engine?



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Old 16-06-2010, 01:59 PM   #35
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Class rules, I assume. Many racing classes require the factory block.
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Old 16-06-2010, 02:04 PM   #36
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the after market is setup towards holden, less so for ford.
as for 202 stud girdles comes to mind.
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Old 16-06-2010, 02:05 PM   #37
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the after market is setup towards holden, less so for ford.
as for 202 stud girdles comes to mind.
Cant imagine that would have anything to do with it.. Class rules sounds far more logical.



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Old 16-06-2010, 02:08 PM   #38
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Cant imagine that would have anything to do with it.. Class rules sounds far more logical.
where can i buy stud girdle for a 250 short??
if not, how do i garentee the bottom end??

for my money a nissan donk would do better..
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Old 16-06-2010, 02:45 PM   #39
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class rules IS the only logical reason surely
being an ex lover of the holden 6s
the power , torque even revs the nissan L28 (2.8 petrol)put out
wouldnt touch a holden red again
then theres the nissan RB motors
one of those nissan "godzilla" motors factory spec would surely nail this x-flow headed torana to the wall
monies on class rules
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Old 16-06-2010, 03:14 PM   #40
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where can i buy stud girdle for a 250 short??
These guys... fitted a Ford head... to a Holden 6. I don't think they would *buy* one, they would make one.
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Old 16-06-2010, 05:25 PM   #41
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Funny why the ford head would be put on backwards. the cam is on the right hand side on both the holden & the ford.
As far as looking at the holden 202 and the ford 200 motors the holden is the way most people go, for performance wise.
So i was thinking what ford 200ci is the best to modify for a street motor.
Maybe the XR 200 is the best as the XY to XF rod ratio is probably not as good.
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Old 27-06-2010, 05:48 PM   #42
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Funny why the ford head would be put on backwards. the cam is on the right hand side on both the holden & the ford.
As far as looking at the holden 202 and the ford 200 motors the holden is the way most people go, for performance wise.
So i was thinking what ford 200ci is the best to modify for a street motor.
Maybe the XR 200 is the best as the XY to XF rod ratio is probably not as good.
Hi. Sorry but the cam is on the other side of the engine. On another note in the 70's I remember reading about a bloke who made aftermarket ohc heads for ford and holden sixes and used the same casting and another interesting one I have heard of is a V8 holden with camira ohc heads fitted???? Cheers MD
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Old 27-06-2010, 06:59 PM   #43
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Well Fords do use Holden parts too... . or is that just in my case with the Holden 1974 Barbados Green colour , HQ Holden Master Cylinder and VR Commodore Radiator in our XM Falcon
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Old 27-06-2010, 09:17 PM   #44
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Hi. No, I put a VH crumpledoor front x-member, struts and 4 wheel disc brakes under a Mk3 zephyr. Cheers MD
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i think its great! Class restrictions sounds logical enough reason but, why not do it if ya can? Be different i say.
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