Ford Show. Live on Facebook Tomorrow... - Page 14

joeyy17 · 14-08-2013, 02:35 PM

If the falcon made a 6.2litre like the new HSV GTS, cya later Holden+HSV

V8 Ghia Mike · 14-08-2013, 04:30 PM

I watched the show late last night and didn't really get too excited about all the econocars. Monroe is certainly a looker and should do well.

But where was the XR6T? GT or any other FPV product? The flagship G6ET? Aren't they still on sale, the premium and performance models in the current range? If that wasn't a snub to FoA and it's world class range, I don't know what is. No wonder the Aussie dealers were quiet, how could they be without at least an acknowledgment of our Ford hero cars from the Americans?

An absolute disgrace.

Mike

Joe5619 · 14-08-2013, 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by csv8

America has the Fusion/Mondeo..why is it taking so long to come here ?????? just curious ??

Because we are getting a Europe built Mondeo & not a US built Fusion. Due to problems in Europe, Mondeo will not be on sale in Europe until qtr4, 2014. We won’t see it here until 2015!!

I think I read somewhere there was talk that Europe would not get this new series I Mondeo, but go straight to series II as the intro model (And by default so would Australia).

XBv8mmm! · 14-08-2013, 08:55 PM

G'day.
New here and have just been reading this thread. Excellent reading.
I for one can not wait for the FH to arrive, I'm already getting the money together to buy an XR8/GS and have an expression of interest in at the local Ford dealer.

Bossxr8 · 14-08-2013, 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Auslandau

There were some letters that were missing from yesterday's discussions ..... Or I missed it???

FPV & GT?

FPV gone, GT and XR8 to continue. But i'd expect the GT to be not much more than an XR8 with stripes and brembos, and very little else style wise.
But it's changing by the week though as to what the line up will be. XR8 Sprint was looking good but I think that has now changed back to GT. I'd assume the Falcon GT will replace the FPV GT. Just assumptions.

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That was always my understanding as well. Hence I cant understand GoAuto's carryon about the car being "delayed" "again"

It was always going to be 4th quarter 2014 so I don't get it either.

Nikked · 14-08-2013, 09:17 PM

Hopefully the GT will get some different plastics...

Then put 50 aside ford 2017, paint them gold, with 50th anniversary badging...

lavi57 · 14-08-2013, 09:28 PM

Can't believe Ford has taken this long to release a competitor to Prado etc..and still at least another 18 months away, even if Everest is a great car. So many lost potential sales last 5 years or more...and no detail to keep non 'Ford loyal' buyers interested. Bit like diesel Territory, way too late. Ford = excellent cars-bad timing.

R-Design · 14-08-2013, 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Bossxr8

FPV gone, GT and XR8 to continue. But i'd expect the GT to be not much more than an XR8 with stripes and brembos, and very little else style wise.
But it's changing by the week though as to what the line up will be. XR8 Sprint was looking good but I think that has now changed back to GT. I'd assume the Falcon GT will replace the FPV GT. Just assumptions.

It was always going to be 4th quarter 2014 so I don't get it either.

Any word on the "GT-H" variant that we saw doing winter testing a while back? Will it see the light of day?

I was all for the XR8 making a comeback, now it seems like a waste. Why not just rebadge the XRs as an ST and be done with it.

Bossxr8 · 14-08-2013, 10:11 PM

I don't think the intercooled versions will ever see the light of day. Too much money in engineering the firewall to handle the torque of the thing, not to mention the rear end too.

It's a shame, apparently the GT-H was going to have a an exclusive Vermillion Fire colour only available on that model, just like Moffats HO.

R-Design · 14-08-2013, 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Bossxr8

I don't think the intercooled versions will ever see the light of day. Too much money in engineering the firewall to handle the torque of the thing, not to mention the rear end too.

It's a shame, apparently the GT-H was going to have a an exclusive Vermillion Fire colour only available on that model, just like Moffats HO.

That's a real shame, they dumped $40 mill into that project and it sounds like a lot of the development money will bear no fruit. Crazy thing is, bringing out a limed edition GT (something really collectible, not a sticker pack), would sell to the enthusiast and collector alike. Ford seem happy to sell cheap XRs to what fleet customers they have left until the gates shut.

Road_Warrior · 14-08-2013, 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Bossxr8

But it's changing by the week though as to what the line up will be. XR8 Sprint was looking good but I think that has now changed back to GT. I'd assume the Falcon GT will replace the FPV GT. Just assumptions.

Interesting. I have a theory about that. I speculated the other day that the "XR8 Sprint" thing was a deliberate leak, a hedge by Ford to test whether the market would "miss" the GT if they didnt bring one out for the last Falcon.

FalconXV · 15-08-2013, 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Bossxr8

I don't think the intercooled versions will ever see the light of day. Too much money in engineering the firewall to handle the torque of the thing, not to mention the rear end too.

It's a shame, apparently the GT-H was going to have a an exclusive Vermillion Fire colour only available on that model, just like Moffats HO.

Oh god I hope they still do the paint at least!

XWGT · 15-08-2013, 01:36 PM

You can already get a GT HO in a unique colour

Just costs $150k more, but still has a 375kw 5.0 Supercharged V8 and looks damn near identical to the FG.....

Road_Warrior · 15-08-2013, 01:59 PM

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looks damn near identical to the FG.....

Funny thing about those doors and mirrors hey.

XWGT · 15-08-2013, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Road_Warrior

Funny thing about those doors and mirrors hey.

I know Jag has not been part of the Ford family for some time, but I've always thought the Jag XFS was the reason there was no GT HO. Their development paths have been very similar, including the supercharged 5.0. And they look damn near identical.

block58 · 15-08-2013, 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Nikked

Hopefully the GT will get some different plastics...

Then put 50 aside ford 2017, paint them gold, with 50th anniversary badging...

Only problem is they wouldn't be allowed to sell them. You know, Euro VI and all

krypto71 · 15-08-2013, 02:53 PM

When I look at the snap shots of the new Falcon, the headlight and grill shape seems to resemble the current Taurus SHO front to me.

Adamz Ghia · 15-08-2013, 05:25 PM

The shots to me resemble one of the mad max concepts...

Bossxr8 · 15-08-2013, 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Road_Warrior

Interesting. I have a theory about that. I speculated the other day that the "XR8 Sprint" thing was a deliberate leak, a hedge by Ford to test whether the market would "miss" the GT if they didnt bring one out for the last Falcon.

Quite possible. I'd assume they would have had some backlash when word got around there was not going to be a GT. But I guess we'll never know.

It's not a definite yet though, let's just wait and see what they end up releasing.

tezxr8man · 15-08-2013, 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Joe5619

Because we are getting a Europe built Mondeo & not a US built Fusion. Due to problems in Europe, Mondeo will not be on sale in Europe until qtr4, 2014. We won’t see it here until 2015!!

I think I read somewhere there was talk that Europe would not get this new series I Mondeo, but go straight to series II as the intro model (And by default so would Australia).

Unless I am mistaken they are the same car aren't they? what does it matter if we get a mondeo badged fusion or a fusion badged mondeo