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If you want a Cruiser probably best to get one now...
https://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&r...xfqOLhmeuh6tgX
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It would want to be a marked improvement on the current 2.8 in the Prado and the Hilux. The 2.8 falls well short of the V8 in terms of output, perhaps they are adding hybrid to the 2.8 as well?
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Probably good news for Ram sales as they would seem to then be the best choice for serious caravan users.
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That absolute nail of an engine in a heavy weight cruiser is a recipe for the speed and towing strength of a snail.
Toyota trying to get people away from diesel? |
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![]() ![]() ![]() Hopefully the Petrol's are nice engines. |
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Some sites have mentioned a twin turbo v6 from Lexus. The funny thing is Toyota dropped the petrol V8 option and went entirely diesel. Now they want to have a thirsty turbo petrol v6 as the only real choice, cause the 2.8 will be rubbish. And it's still just a 6 speed auto. The petrols are apparently getting an 8 speed.
Total contradiction. A twin turbo V6 will probably use as much petrol as the 4.5 petrol V8 did. |
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That is just crazy thinking.
Those currently with 200's will be laughing and would be nuts to sell them now as they will be worth good money, if the 300 only has these rumoured engines. Surely Ford can see that a RHD F150/250 etc etc would be a good seller in Oz. |
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There is nothing actually confirmed in that article. I doubt Toyota would step that far back from their current offering. I just can't see them going around 100kw and 200Nm backwards.
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Something has been "confirmed" out of Japan
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I have a theory that a 3.5L 6 cylinder would be a good unique size for a diesel. Either V6 or I-6 with 230kw/700Nm and around 9-10L/100. But I also think diesel is dead (despite having two diesels), I really want to see this twin-turbo V6 hybrid. I would expect it to get around 330kw/900Nm and 8-9L/100km. As far as the 2.8 I-4 diesel? Yeah right, don’t believe it.
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Cant see why a V6 turbo petrol wouldn't work well in a Land Cruiser...
It does the job well in the F150/Expedition as 3.5 ecoboost. Perhaps the bloke who was responsible for the ZD30 Patrol is helping design the 300 Series. |
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I thank my lucky stars and my son for warning me about this rubbish,I got my cruiser xmas eve.
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Just Vee Dub it... :P
Didn't hurt them much did it? Ed ![]()
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Looks like the Land Cruiser won’t be an evolution of the current one, but likely using the name to respond to the current trend with other off-roading brands coming back. Defender, Hummer, Bronco etc.
Toyota Land Cruiser – For years, the iconic Toyota Land Cruiser has moved to nearly unattainable levels of luxury and price. It looks like Toyota may be revisiting the original’s purpose – off-road capability. Based on the upcoming TNGA-F platform and sporting the Tundra’s new powertrain, the next Land Cruiser could be a back-to-basics off-roader. It’s expected between 2021 and 2022. https://www.tflcar.com/2020/03/toyot...ear-plan-leak/ Interestingly, the next gen Tundra could be sold in Australia factory produced RHD. Unlike this article that mentions it has a 5.7 V8, it will have a twin turbo V6 hybrid. https://www.carsales.com.au/editoria...xt-year-123511 |
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And environmentally the combination of diesel and 8 cylinders isn't a good look from their perspective. Plus their diesel tech is crap. Just look how far behind their competitors they are in terms of power and torque. |
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Don't Toyota have some type of component sharing or development set up with BMW? Maybe they could recommission BMWs largely bulletproof M57 diesel from 2002 that has better figures than what the Japs can manage in 2020. I had a look at the Lexus LS500 V6 turbo spec and they're pretty average, 300kw and 600nm, 10.6l/100km combined economy. Although it would probably provide better drivability than the 4.5 diesel or current 5.7 petrol. When I was in the States I had an Ecoboost Expedition (older heavier one with the 6 speed), averaged 19.1mpg (12.3 l/100km) over two weeks and a lot of the driving was interstate 70-90mph. It may get into the 10s or under at a steady 65-70mph highway cruise. |
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https://www.carsales.com.au/editoria...kOiWOLdbgMA2Sw
Toyota LandCruiser 300 Series to be six-cylinder only Four-pot and V8 oil-burners kyboshed, but new six-cylinder diesel all but guaranteed for new ’Cruiser Contrary to recent reports, the next-generation 2021 Toyota LandCruiser 300 Series will not be offered with the 2.8-litre four-cylinder diesel engine from the Toyota HiLux, Prado and Fortuner – at least not in Australia. In fact, the new eight-seat 4WD will likely get a new high-torque six-cylinder turbo-diesel – probably a V6 – along with a twin-turbo 3.5-litre petrol V6 eventually available in petrol-electric hybrid form.....continued in link |
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Honestly would have been crazy to put the underpowered 2.8 4cyl in the Cruiser.
Going to be hard to replace the current V8 though but the 6 will be much better alternative than the 2.8.
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Sounds like there may be a new 3.0 V6 diesel on the way for LandCruiser and possibly NG Hilux in 2023.
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Not a good move for a car that weighs alot more than a Hilux
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