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https://www.carexpert.com.au/car-new...d-in-a-big-way
"Australia’s new vehicle sales (checked against registrations) rebounded in August, up 17.3 per cent over the same month last year to 95,256 cars. It was the best August in five years, suggesting the supply of vehicles is steadily improving. It also takes the year-to-date tally to 717,575, down 2.1 per cent on 2021." Top 10 Models - Toyota 20,616 3.3% Mazda 8824 15.4% Kia 6780 33.9% Hyundai 6643 32.4% Mitsubishi 6380 32.9% Ford 5839 15.4% Tesla 3397 N/A MG 3074 2.1% Subaru 2960 -8.4% Mercedes-Benz 2886 22.1% Top 10 Brands - Toyota HiLux – 6214 Ford Ranger – 4497 Toyota RAV4 – 2482 Tesla Model 3 – 2380 Mazda CX-5 – 2325 Toyota Corolla – 2115 Mitsubishi Triton – 2087 Hyundai i30 – 1975 Isuzu D-Max – 1928 Toyota Prado – 1903 Ford Numbers - Ford EcoSport – 0 Ford Endura – 0 Ford Escape – 209 Ford Everest – 417 Ford Fiesta – 14 Ford Focus – 16 Ford Mondeo – 0 Ford Mustang – 261 Ford Puma – 237 Ford Ranger 4x2 – 467 Ford Ranger 4x4 – 4030 Ford Transit Bus – 1 Ford Transit Custom – 164 Ford Transit Heavy – 23 Ford Total – 5839
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I'd love to know what the sales numbers would be if supply of components was unlimited, multiple ship loads didn't suddenly arrive in quick succession skewing up individual monthly numbers, or if shipping were not delayed also skewing down numbers, if OS divisions didn't favour their local supply vs Australia,...if.. if ..if....frankly Vfacts doesn't seem to me to hold any real relevance to a models success rather which importer has a parent looking after it better.
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Hilux keeps flying out the doors
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Between Hilux and Ranger’s sales last month, that’s close to 11,000 Utes.
I wonder if the tide is going out on the other brands’ sales… Third place Triton just made it into the 2,000s with 2,087. Tesla 3……..2,380 Tesla Y….….1,017 Seriously, Ford needs to bring Mustang Mach E to Australia in decent supply, it’s money in the bank. Last edited by jpd80; 06-09-2022 at 11:37 AM. |
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It just shows its all about reputation with Toyota. You can build the most boring, useless cars but if they are perceived as being quality with decent resale people will buy them.
I would buy a Triton over a Hilux.... I just don't get it. But of course Ford has let me down again with my new Ranger... Tail shaft needs replacing, its missing the zone lighting from factory and its throwing warnings about certain safety systems. Ford build the best cars you can buy for the dollars but their build quality is rat **** and they never seem to be able to get on top of it.
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Agreed. The Mach E would be money for Jam for Ford. Madness that they don't bring the product here.
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Seems to maybe be starting to smooth out a bit now though. |
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We get Tesla number 4 this Friday. A Model Y. Would've happily bought a Mach E instead.
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I hope it’s priced in our budget, we’d love to have one alongside a ute. |
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It won't be cheap. 90-100k minimum at a guess?
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Off topic, but is it true that only Tesla's can use the Tesla charges (as well as the others) and non tesla EV's cant, not even at some sort of charge?
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Then they might as well not bother. The Y in standard is $73k plus onroads. It was $69k before the price jump recently. Sure, the GT would be acceptable at that price point but the RWD needs to be significantly less or they'll just keep giving Tesla the market share.
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Reason for this was Tesla invited other brands to work with them to roll out the network and the big companies said, FU Tesla, we don't need some startup telling us how to do things. So Tesla did it alone. Now who is laughing! It may change in time as it is in Europe where Tesla are piloting opening the network to other manufacturers. As an owner, I'd rather they didn't do this as I like that I have exclusive access to the network. If I planned to do any country driving in Australia, I'd never look at any other car than a Tesla (which is why we have so many Teslas, we love taking them for long drives into the country). The network is just so far superior to anything else out there.
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Notice the price jump for Mach E RWD,
- USD$ 50,000 - UK £50,030 One would hope that the starting priced would be AUS$70,000 but the realist in me knows that this vehicle will be max priced for the Ford fans but dearer than Tesla Y? |
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Following on from HSVKILLA's link Ford NZ has a Q2/2023 reference for the Mach-E
https://www.ford.co.nz/ https://www.ford.co.nz/showroom/futu...ng-mach-e.html so I'd assume Ford OZ will make some noise in between... |
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They can literally set the price wherever they want it. With the factory being so short of supply i'd be surprised if they can even get more than a few hundred a year. We will see what happens if and when an announcement is made. |
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I hope they bring them in some meaningful numbers. From all reports, they're a pretty good car. $90-100k is more than even a Raptor or Everest Platinum.
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In the US, Tesla averages 60,000 deliveries of 3 & Y a month where Ford struggles to sell Mach E at a tenth of that (6,000) So yeah, I have no earthly idea how Ford intends to supply North America, Europe and Australia, hard to imagine any supply, maybe a few hundred a month of Mach E is enough for them… Last edited by jpd80; 08-09-2022 at 05:30 PM. |
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