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He was very careful in his words and it was more what he didnt say. There was no talk on sponsorship or support - it was inferred but not stated - he implied they were supporting yet at the time the official press releases were about waiting to the end of the year. Means that when they announced the inevitable he wasn't actually correcting or changing anything said on the day - typical bulls|t double talk and half truths. There was enough double speak and fragments that I left that day knowing they were pulling out but was hoping I was wrong...... |
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Well thats it for me.......you would have thought they would have learned from the F1 experiment this year, no F1 noise = no fans = teams going broke, V8Supercar (or whatever name the pony tailed marketing tossers come up with) No Ford = 50% less fans = 50% less cash!!!
Real motor racing died when we went to E85 economy runs anyway..........Brocky would be turning in his grave!!! |
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Not surprisingly, articles like this are coming out:
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#306 | |||
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Holden just threw them a heap of body shells and panels, so they swapped over, better off with a little bit of free stuff than nothing from Ford.
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You sure it has nothing to do with CVC and one Bernie E? E85 stopped motor racing? How was that? I am genuinely interested in hearing this.
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This is the thing. Focus, Fiesta, Mondeo continue to underperform and despite the Ranger's great showing, overall Ford continues to slip down the sales charts. Other things occuring like the powershift transmissions and shift from German to Thai build are noticed. It would seem since about 2007 and 'One Ford' FOA has been (directed to?) abandon its Australian heritage, not mention or advertise it, and re-make itself as a lesser version of Toyota. This leaves a pretty bad taste in the mouth. Why should I bother going back to Ford to get one of their passenger cars, when they've proved that they are quite happy to toast their history, their identity? Why should I buy the Ford FWD import over one that will give me better resale? Both purchases are an own-goal for Australia's balance-of-payments, too. Ford are moving toward whitegoods on wheels with good economy and tech, like everyone else. It's a tough, competitive market out there, and I can see better vehicles of this type from other manufacturers. So yeah, we move on. In terms of racing, the Bathurst 12 hour each year will give all of us a platform to see what's sold in the showroom on the racetrack - the BMW's do quite well, you can see them up against WRX (and some years ago, John Bowe in an XR8) so this can replace the V8SC format if you are into 'the Big Race'. The Mustang can make an appearance there, factory support or no.
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Still Ford is a global company whose primary goal is to be profitable and for that reason have changed their business model. Consumer expectations, tastes and business overheads have changed and if Ford doesn’t change now they would have to do it eventually and the longer they leave it, the more irresponsible they become to their shareholders. History will prove if they are taking the right direction or not. Motorsport no longer sells cars to the masses. |
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Watching what's been going on to FOA in recent years has been an excellent "how not to" to observe in running any business. It's more biting when one considers the strength of Ford of Canada in their market - a country that is a lot like ours in many ways (small population, Western, Westminster law, resources, high wage, Ford manufacturing plants there).
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That's absolute disgusting, a gen f stop the smoking... Andrew
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A nice Raptor they have a 5.0L Andrew
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Ford pulled all there funding from the NHRA where it spend big dollars with John Force and a couple of other teams, the cut is on everywhere. John Force also lost Castrol as a sponsor of more than 20 years, Lucus Oil has picked this up, as for car branding who knows NHRA car branding is a huge deal.
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Just out of interest would anyone here know how much it would cost for a company to do a nation wide advertising campaign across TV, Radio and print for say a month or 6 week period.
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It's sad to see but not surprising. Ford want to move away from being the Falcon Motor Company and more like a company with a full range of good cars.
How many sales has the V8s given Ford over the last few years? Obviously not many. Sure, there's a few enthusiasts on here who've bought FPVs, but they're the only ones. With the V8s moving to pay-TV-only (I think?) next year, I know I won't be watching them, and a lot of others will be cut out too. |
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Shows over King of the hill
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Why? Football has a good target reach...
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i would say geelong is a better investment than motorsport. they get their brand exposed to the public every weekend for 6 months, and not just focused mainly on one model either.
motorsport can build a brand following, but won't necessarily result in sales in the immediate future, esp if the 'fan' is young, but how much exposure is motorsport really giving them? the crowd numbers at the big street circuits seem to be ok, but i wonder what those numbers would look like if there wasn't a concert at the end of each day. many people walk in as the 'on track' action is finishing. motorsport fans and enthusiasts are a minority. its something we have to deal with. Ford, as a seller of cars, have to continue to chase the largest markets. |
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