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I doubt it mate, pretty sure the boys at Autocar N.Z. would have had a lot of attempts to get that best number they got but maybe on a really cold night with a super sticky track I reckon a 4.0 may be possible.
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.3 secs quicker then the Aussie average bests of 4.4. If they get 4.15 on the road then they've been going 3 tenths faster at the drags for GTS times. Seems reasonable......that's if their 4.15 is even real! Quite a few comments buy owners in forums and even utube video comments suggest even the 4.4s aren't possible! Most are hinting at 4.7-8 consistently!
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Never had a reason to doubt their times before and they've been around for a heck of a long time...one of the few mags that test properly with vbox timing gear. Its colder here and that could easily account for 0.25 seconds in itself.
Interestingly in the January 2014 edition they beat Audi's factory stated time for the RS6, (Audi claim 3.9 seconds for their AWD RS6) also by 0.25 seconds, the best they got was a 3.65 seconds and they specially mentioned the cooler dry weather so that blows any conspiracy theory out the window in my opinion. Worth noting that in repeated subsequent testing the best they got from the RS6 was 3.8 seconds so there's what you can get as a one-off in ideal cool dry conditioons and what's repeatable in average conditions is something slightly different. |
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21-01-2014, 03:21 PM | #395 | ||
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From personal experience, I wpuld reccomend that if you have anything less than 350rwkw in an fg turbo, or 425rwkw in a sc gt, your going to have a bad time against one of these. I had a run with one on track, and to 100km/h it had pulled almost a car length on me. It gained that though in the first 1/2 a second before the turbo spooled up. I was only on a 300kw tune, so I would say the 350kw tune would have been close to having it. I do not doubt these low 4 second claims one bit. Plus they look freaking awesome (see multiple on a daily basis) and they sound damn fine.
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21-01-2014, 03:24 PM | #396 | |||
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Regardless though, I just couldn't buy a car that looks like that for 100K. Sort of looks like a hotted-up Hyundai or Kia - maybe it's just me though! |
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I know what you're saying...there's some aspects of the look from the rear that appears to have quite a bit of Japaneese / Korean influence but some of Hyundai's latest designs don't actually look too bad IMO, (i'm thinking i45 in particular and Mazda 6 which is another not unattractive car IMO). But any way you slice and dice it we're not talking about an SRT8 "event" level of contoversy are we
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Best time at the drags for a stocky is 12.2@117mph against the little AMG A45, it realed them of one after another. Saw one at calder the last time i went ran, 12.4@114mph.
I wanted to beat it in my BF F6 and did with a 11.79@120mph, 314rwkw |
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On 350kw and semis I average 3.88 at willowbank so I dont see how this is too surprising.
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Lol, every time I see a VF I keep thinking it's a look I've seen for a while. Then I remember that VF should actually have been out far, far earlier then its release date here. Therefore between some of the GM US/Asian models out earlier than VF, etc, it's styling is already too familiar and imho will date far more quickly. Cannot say too much but next Falcon won't suffer this problem.
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The acceleration test 80-120 had the GTS at 2.6secs up to over half a sec slower then the rest. Also the higher the speed, the further the GTS lost ground on the others right up over 200klms. |
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They are wrong its already be proven that the GTS can run quicker than 4.7 seconds from 0-100 in the real world
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There are going to be variances from different publications for all cars due to the conditions outlined above. In the end the times have been published and all are pretty impressive.
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From Motor mag Feb 2014
0-100 kph 3.93 Audi RS6 4.69 HSV GTS 4.91 Merc E63S 4.95 Jag XFR-S 4.95 BMW M5 0-200 kph 12.80 Audi RS6 13.22 BMW M5 13.37 Merc E63S 14.65 Jag XFR-S 14.96 HSV GTS 80 - 120 kph 1.97 BMW M5 2.19 Audi RS6 2.31 Merc E63S 2.51 Jag XFR-S 2.60 HSV GTS 1/4 Mile 11.89 Audi RS6 12.72 Merc E63S 12.73 HSV GTS 12.87 BMW M5 12.90 Jag XFR-S Price $ 97,480 HSV GTS $230,690 BMW M5 $232,865 Jag XFR-S $249,545 Merc E63S $253,040 Audi RS6
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Yeah I misunderstood at first, what they are trying to say is that there is no way to replicate the times that they were able to achieve in testing in the real world (strip v street) not that there is no way to get a quicker time than 4.7 from 0-100
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counting seconds is like shaving a hippopotamus GTS is a winrar |
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Exactly. They also pointed out they all missed the manufacturers claims for 0-100 at least.
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maybe if I park in front, hrmm..
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HSV 12.73 @ 188kph 1/4 and 14.96 @ 200kph so 2.23 seconds to get another 12kph???
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Someone who knows a thing or two about the physics of acceleration will be able to explain it better.
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GTS is the only manual too, so there was probably a gear change just before 200kmh
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To give you guys an insight into how much quicker the cars can be in cooler conditions I have posted comparitive figures from N.Z. Autocar's testing where data is avaiable. Not saying which magazine is right or wrong...just that different cooler conditions and in the case of the GTS, an auto gearbox as well, can make a material difference. Last edited by Rodge; 23-01-2014 at 08:27 AM. |
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Agreed. There must be a typo error in the figures in the mag.
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I dunno Trev, I think we might have uncovered a little flaw in the GTS's armour. It seems from an aerodynamic perspective the GTS stops a heck of a lot of air because I just dug out Wheels September 2013 testing where they compared the GTS with the E63S
Quarter Mile E63S 12.2 seconds @ 195 K.p.h. GTS 12.8 @ 183 k.p.h. 0-200 k.p.h. E63 12.7 GTS 15.1 Another 2.3 seconds to put on another 17 k.p.h. This was also a manual so it would appear there's definitly a gear change required somewhere in the late 180 - late 190 k.p.h. range but aside from that it appears the GTS has pretty awful aerodynamics. |
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Can't be right Rodge, unless it was the worst gear change ever etc. It can't just hit a wall at 180. 220 or so I would consider, perhaps, but not 180.
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