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Old 02-09-2011, 11:37 PM   #31
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http://www.carpoint.com.au/news/2011...e--again-26523

Ford was 4th overall in manufacturer sales for August, hopefully the Territory is still selling well.
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Old 02-09-2011, 11:46 PM   #32
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For the lazies from above ^.

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Mazda3 overtakes Holden Commodore ... again! words - Joshua Dowling
August new car sales show the pair have swapped the lead for the fifth time

The Holden Commodore – Australia's favourite car for the past 15 years in a row – is on the ropes again.

In what is believed to be the closest battle for number one in Australian automotive history, the Mazda3 once again leads the Commodore after a sales surge in August.

The Mazda3 and Holden Commodore have now swapped the lead five times in eight months, according to preliminary figures obtained by motoring.com.au.

Mazda sold approximately 4200 of its small sedan and hatch while Holden sold about 3700 Commodore sedans and wagons.

The pair were separated by just 81 sales year-to-date by the end of July, with the Commodore narrowly ahead.

But by our estimation, the Mazda3 now leads the Commodore in the year-to-date sales race by about 300 sales.

August figures are also expected to show that Toyota's tally for August was about 15,800, Holden's about 11,500 while Mazda finished ahead of its former parent company Ford (9100 and 8300 respectively).

Korean maker Hyundai was fifth with approximately 7400 sales for the month.

Official figures are due to be released Monday.
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Old 02-09-2011, 11:51 PM   #33
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I'll say it, 9,100 for Ford is pretty good considering EcoLPI is yet to arrive......
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I'll say it, 9,100 for Ford is pretty good considering EcoLPI is yet to arrive......
If only it was 9100. That was Mazda. Ford is fourth with 8300. We just can't take a trick.
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Should be a slow month. No LPi. Doesn't seem like much Focus stock yet either.

Next month should be the start of the comeback all things considered.
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Old 04-09-2011, 10:04 AM   #36
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8,300 can't be all that bad, it is 500 more than last month...
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Old 04-09-2011, 11:45 AM   #37
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Should be a slow month. No LPi. Doesn't seem like much Focus stock yet either.

Next month should be the start of the comeback all things considered.
We were told that 9 months ago !!! lets hope so !!
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Old 04-09-2011, 03:21 PM   #38
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We were told that 9 months ago !!! lets hope so !!
But nearly everything is being released 2nd half of the year. Territory was close to half way through the year and is doing really well so far.
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Old 05-09-2011, 01:46 PM   #39
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This months VFACTS are in :-
Territory - 1625
Falcon - 1665
Falcon Ute - 593
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This months VFACTS are in :-
Territory - 1625
Falcon - 1665
Falcon Ute - 593
Thats not too bad actually. Well, obviously Falcon and ute could be better but they've been lower this year.

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Old 05-09-2011, 02:23 PM   #43
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Burnz, your article is dated 3 rd august, you have posted july figures.
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Top 10 sales - August 2011
Mazda3 4234
Holden Commodore 3682
Holden Cruze 3234
Toyota Corolla 3100
Toyota HiLux 2823
Hyundai i30 2418
Mazda2 1966
Ford Falcon 1665
Ford Territory 1625
Toyota Camry 1607

Source: http://news.drive.com.au/drive/motor...905-1jt8l.html

I cant find more updated results, but Im really actually interested in how the Mondeo, New Focus, Fiesta and Ranger went as well, both in terms of overall rank and Percentage increases on themselves.

Terry was impressive though on a positive.
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Mazda must be rubbing their hands together great result for them.
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Mondeo, New Focus, Fiesta and Ranger went as well, both in terms of overall rank and Percentage increases on themselves.

Terry was impressive though on a positive.
Mondeo 615 for month variance 39.8% and 42.9% YTD
Focus 1177 for month variance 61.9% and 32.8% YTD (no way to split LV/LW)
Fiesta 1007 for month variance 10.5% and 10.2% YTD
Ranger 4x2 400 for month variance -18% and -13.6 YTD
Ranger 4x4 972 for month variance -0.4% and 36.9% YTD
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Wow, Mazda hit one out of the ball park. Holden would be happy with Cruze/Commodore combo and same with Ford with Falcon/Territory. Anyone know if Mazda had incentives last month on the 3 range?
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Mondeo 615 for month variance 39.8% and 42.9% YTD
Focus 1177 for month variance 61.9% and 32.8% YTD (no way to split LV/LW)
Fiesta 1007 for month variance 10.5% and 10.2% YTD
Ranger 4x2 400 for month variance -18% and -13.6 YTD
Ranger 4x4 972 for month variance -0.4% and 36.9% YTD
Thanks for that.

Over 1000 sales isn't to bad for both fiesta and focus i rekon. I wonder if that put them in the top 20.
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Wow, Mazda hit one out of the ball park. Holden would be happy with Cruze/Commodore combo and same with Ford with Falcon/Territory. Anyone know if Mazda had incentives last month on the 3 range?

All i have seen is that have chopped $500 of the base model Mazda 3, taking it down to $21490. But by looking at specs on paper, if people are buying 3200 $21990 plus, cruzes a month, you can understand why the $21499 plus, higher spec Mazda3's are running out the door.

Its the VE's fifth birthday this month, theres a good chance that those born in 2006, might be able to buy a brand new VE as their first car, when they reach 18.
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"M Day" must have went well for Mazda.
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All i have seen is that have chopped $500 of the base model Mazda 3, taking it down to $21490.
No they haven't. The RRP on the Mazda3 is $21,330.
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No they haven't. The RRP on the Mazda3 is $21,330.

http://www.mazda.com.au/Vehicles/Mazda3.aspx
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September 5, 2011 - 2:01PM

Sales of new vehicles in Australia jumped for a second straight month in August as imports of Japanese cars recovered from the earthquake back in March, showing consumers had the confidence to splash out on big-ticket items.

Holden, meanwhile, has had its best August since 2007 with more than 11,500 sales for the month, up 3.5 per cent from a year earlier

Holden's result included 3,682 Commodores and 3,234 Cruze sedans - two locally-built models.
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The Australian Federal Chamber of Automotive Industries estimated that overall sales rose a seasonally adjusted 4.3 per cent in August, on top of a double-digit increase in July.

Sales were up 7.3 per cent on August last year, a marked improvement from July when they were still down 1.7 per cent on the year. Back in June, the annual drop had been 11.6 per cent.

Notably, sales of sport utility vehicles were up over 19 per cent on August last year, suggesting domestic demand in the economy was holding up a lot better than some had feared.

In raw terms, total vehicle sales of 88,082 were up 8.8 per cent on July. For the year so far, sales of 655,309 vehicles are down 4.4 per cent on the same period of 2010.

Toyota's sales continued to recover after supplies of its cars took a particularly hard knock from the earthquake and tsunami. The company held 18 per cent of the Australian market in August, up from 16 per cent in July and 13 per cent in June.

The Holden unit of GM took 13.1 per cent of the market in August, while Mazda jumped to third spot with 10.4 per cent. Ford dropped to third with 9.5 per cent, followed by Hyundai at 8.4 per cent.

For the year to date, Toyota still tops the sales table followed by Holden and Ford.

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August VFACTS: Buyers return to showrooms

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Toyota returns to form as Holden slips behind and Mazda overtakes Ford for third

5 September 2011

By MARTON PETTENDY

AUSTRALIA’S new vehicle market has bounced back from its decline in the first half of this year to stage a solid 7.3 per cent sales increase in August, as buyers returned to the market in the new financial year and industry leader Toyota secured more supplies from earthquake-ravaged Japan.

According to official automotive statistician VFACTS, total new-vehicle sales are now just 4.4 per cent or 30,357 vehicles behind the same point in 2010 following the first month-on-month sales increase, putting the industry solidly back on track to record one million sales for the second consecutive year.

“These positive figures are good news for the automotive industry in Australia and put the industry firmly on track to achieve the one million sales target for 2011,” said Federal Chamber of Automotive Industries acting chief executive Steve Payne.

“We’re continuing to see a recovery in supply from tsunami-damaged Japan, along with stronger sales in Queensland as the state recovers from severe weather events earlier in the year.”

Leading the comeback last month was Toyota, which sold 15,885 vehicles last month – still down 4.5 per cent in August but better than its overall 19.4 per cent slide so far this year – as the first of 20,000 vehicles arrived from Japan for its two-month ‘Toyotathon’ sales campaign in August and September.

That was enough for Toyota to increase its market share by a full two percentage points, from a lowly 16.0 per cent in July to 18.0 per cent last month, as second-placed Holden slipped 0.3 percentage points, from 13.4 to 13.1 per cent over the past two months – despite increasing sales by 3.5 per cent in August.

While sales of every Toyota model remain down this year – and only the Yaris, HiLux 4x4, LandCruiser wagon and ute improved in August – Holden posted its best August result since 2007, with Commodore placing second overall with its best August result since 2008.

Holden also sold more than 3000 Cruze sedans for the third consecutive month in August – its second-best result since launch in 2009 and 35.7 per cent higher than August 2010 – putting it within 450 sales of Commodore. Together, sales of Holden’s Adelaide-made vehicles surged by 55 per cent.

While Holden expects a spike from both model lines when the MY12 Commodore range is released later this month and the Cruze hatch is added in October, its 11,534 sales in August bring its year-to-date tally to 84,923 units and a 12.8 per cent market share.

That is down from 13.0 per cent at this time in 2010 and just over 29,000 vehicles or 4.3 market share points behind Toyota, which holds 17.1 per cent of the market (down from 20.3 per cent at this point in 2010).

However, last month’s stand-out performer was Mazda, which hoisted itself into third place ahead of Ford with its best-ever month.

Mazda sold 9138 vehicles in August (up a massive 41.2 per cent on the same month last year), including 6783 passenger cars (up more than 44 per cent).

Helping Mazda to a 10.4 per cent share last month was the evergreen Mazda3 – Australia’s best-selling single model in August with 4234 sales, followed by Commodore (3682), Cruze (3234), Toyota’s Corolla (3100) and HiLux (2823) – with a new monthly record for the car, just two months after the previous benchmark was posted.

While next month’s facelifted Mazda3 will further aid Mazda’s cause, the Japanese brand is already up 5.6 per cent for the year and lies just 1416 vehicles short of Ford, which holds a 9.2 per cent market share to Mazda’s 9.0 per cent.

Bolstered by another new monthly sales record for its smallest model, the Mazda2, Mazda has widened the gap to fifth-placed Hyundai by selling 59,918 vehicles year-to-date to the Korean maker’s 57,621 (for a 8.7 per cent), despite Hyundai’s 13.1 per cent sales increase last month - its best August sales result on record.

Hyundai's 7417 August sales gave it a market share of 8.4 per cent and fifth place overall, but in passenger car terms it placed fourth for both the month (with an 11.3 per cent share) and the year.

It was aided last month by the i20's best ever sales result, with 1163 sales and a market share of 10.4 per cent placing it third in the light segment.

While Hyundai is up 3.9 per cent this year, Ford remains 5.3 per cent down, but should expect to post significant gains with its all-new Ranger ute from next month, as well as the first full month of sales for its new Focus and LPG-fuelled Falcon LPi models.

Helping Ford notch up a 1.6 per cent sales lift overall, Focus sales rose some 61.9 per cent in August and continue to be 32.8 per cent up YTD, while Territory sales – aided by a facelift and the first diesel version – were up 48.7 per cent in August to be 2.2 per cent up YTD.

Fiesta sales remained 10.5 per cent stronger last month, about the same as YTD, while Mondeo was up almost 40 per cent in August to be up 42.9 per cent YTD.

However, Falcon sales continued their downward spiral last month, when sedan sales dipped 29.0 per cent (to be down 39.2 per cent YTD) and ute sales fell by 32.3 per cent (down 30.2 per cent YTD).

Nissan, Mitsubishi, Volkswagen, Subaru and Honda continued to round out the top 10 makes in August, in line with their YTD standings, with Honda’s 25.7 per cent sales slump last month dropping its market share to just 2.3 per cent in August and to just 3.3 per cent YTD – down from 4.0 per cent at this time last year, when it ranked eighth.

Other big movers last month were Renault (up 278.3 per cent to 401 sales in August and up 99.7 per cent YTD), Jeep (up 57.1 per cent in August to be up 24 per cent YTD) and Land Rover (up 47.2 per cent in August and 22.1 per cent YTD).

Luxury SUVs (up 18.9 per cent YTD), 4x4 utes (up 6.7 per cent YTD) and compact SUVs (up 4.9 per cent SUV) continue to drive Australia’s overall new-vehicle sales growth this year.

Of the luxury brands, Mercedes-Benz was up 14.9 per cent in August to be down 4.4 per cent YTD with 13,610 sales and BMW was down 10.2 per cent in August to be down 5.6 per cent YTD with 11,174 sales.

Audi rose 5.8 per cent in August to be 9.0 per cent up YTD and just 1070 sales behind BMW with 10,104 sales while Lexus fared 37.6 per cent better in August to be 6.8 per cent down YTD with 3898 sales.

VFACTS top 10 makes August 2011:
Rank Make Sales % Share
1 Toyota 15,885 18.0
2 Holden 11,534 13.1
3 Mazda 9138 10.4
4 Ford 8341 9.5
5 Hyundai 7417 8.4
6 Nissan 5587 6.3
7 Mitsubishi 4851 5.5
8 Volkswagen 3813 4.3
9 Subaru 2704 3.1
10 Honda 2035 2.3
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By Tim Beissmann | September 5th, 2011

The Australian automotive industry hit a high point in August, with sales of new vehicles eclipsing those of the same month in the previous year for the first time in 2011.

Official VFACTS data released today by the Federal Chamber of Automotive Industries (FCAI) shows that 88,082 passenger cars, SUVs and commercial vehicles were sold in August 2011, up 7.3 percent (5960 vehicles) compared with July 2010.

The last time monthly sales figures bettered the same month from the previous year was in November 2010, when sales were 1.8 per cent ahead of November 2009.

A massive month for Mazda has seen the Mazda3 streak ahead of the Holden Commodore to again take the lead as the country’s most popular new car. Mazda – spurred on by its ‘M Day’ sales promotion – sold 2154 more vehicles in August than in July, helping it overtake Ford into third position overall.

Toyota solidified its position as the top-selling brand, with vehicle supply normalising after the earthquake and tsunami disaster from earlier in the year.

Top 10 sales by marque:

1. Toyota – 15,885
2. Holden – 11,534
3. Mazda – 9138
4. Ford – 8341
5. Hyundai – 7417
6. Nissan – 5587
7. Mitsubishi – 4851
8. Volkswagen – 3813
9. Subaru – 2704
10. Kia – 2102


Kia also made a big move into the top 10, replacing Honda. The Japanese brand slipped to 11th overall and is under threat from Suzuki to hold that position (2035 vs 1966).

As mentioned earlier, the Mazda3 turned an 81-vehicle deficit into a 471-vehicle lead over the Commodore after eight months of the year. The Mazda3 outsold the Commodore by 552 units, and – like the smaller Mazda2 – achieved an all-time monthly sales record in the process.

Top 10 sales by model:

1. Mazda3 – 4234
2. Holden Commodore – 3682
3. Holden Cruze – 3234
4. Toyota Corolla – 3100
5. Toyota HiLux – 2823
6. Hyundai i30 – 2418
7. Mazda2 – 1966
8. Ford Falcon – 1665
9. Ford Territory – 1625
10. Toyota Camry – 1607

The Australian-made Cruze again finished just short of the larger Commodore, while the Corolla and Camry rebounded strongly and the Falcon and Territory again filled the lower rungs of the top 10.

The Mazda2 was the clear favourite in the light car class and stretched its lead over the second-ranked Toyota Yaris (1599 sales in August) to almost 1500 units for the year (12,102 vs 10,508).

The big mover in the segment was the Hyundai i20, which jumped to third position with 1163 sales and a 10.6 per cent share, picking up plenty of the market vacated by the discontinued Getz.

The usual suspects did the damage in the small segment, with Mazda3, Cruze, Corolla and i30 making up a whopping 61.5 per cent of the total small car market. The Mitsubishi Lancer (1486), Ford Focus (1177) and Volkswagen Golf (1082) were the best of the rest.

The Camry continued its dominance of the medium segment. The Ford Mondeo followed with 615 sales, meaning the mid-sized Ford is now up 42.9 per cent year-to-date. Also enjoying a strong month was the Mercedes-Benz C-Class, which finished third in the segment ahead of cheaper competitors like the Mazda6 and Honda Accord Euro.

The Toyota Aurion enjoyed one of its best months for the year (848 units in August, 5899 year-to-date).

The Ford Territory was again the top-selling SUV, dominating the medium segment ahead of the Toyota Prado (937) and the Holden Captiva 7 (901).

The Nissan X-Trail (1342) narrowly took the honours over the Subaru Forester (1289) in the compact SUV segment, while the Toyota RAV4 (1091) and the Mazda CX-7 (1089) also enjoyed strong months.

The Commodore-based Ute pipped the HiLux in the 4×2 pick-up segment (987 vs 943), while in the 4×4 segment, it was the HiLux that scored a strong win over the Nissan Navara (1880 vs 1445).
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Ford 2011 2010
Ford Escape 138 150
Ford Falcon 1,665 2,344
Ford Falcon Ute 593 876
Ford Fiesta 1,007 911
Ford Focus 1,177 727
Ford Mondeo 615 440
Ford Ranger 4X2 400 488
Ford Ranger 4X4 972 976
Ford Territory 1,625 1,093
Ford Transit 121 150
Ford Transit Bus 0 10
Ford Transit C/C 28 47
Ford Total 8,341 8,212

Change 1.6%

Holden 2011 2010
Holden Astra 0 0
Holden Astra Convertible0 0
Holden Barina 555 1,325
Holden Barina Spark 223 0
Holden Caprice 180 145
Holden Captiva 5 512 350
Holden Captiva 7 901 967
Holden Colorado 4X2 109 162
Holden Colorado 4X4 990 765
Holden Combo 31 45
Holden Commodore 3,682 3,674
Holden Cruze 3,234 2,383
Holden Epica 130 89
Holden Monaro 0 0
Holden Statesman 0 21
Holden Utility 4X2 987 1,220
Holden Utility 4X4 0 0
Holden Viva 0 0
Holden Total 11,534 11,146

Change 3.5%

Toyota 2011 2010
Toyota Aurion 848 872
Toyota Avensis 0 28
Toyota Camry (4 cyl) 1,607 1,955
Toyota Coaster 21 42
Toyota Corolla 3,100 3,520
Toyota FJ Cruiser 109 0
Toyota Hiace Bus 323 220
Toyota Hiace Van 562 620
Toyota Hilux 4X2 943 1,108
Toyota Hilux 4X4 1,880 1,846
Toyota Kluger 766 990
Toyota Landcruiser PU/CC711 521
Toyota Landcruiser Wagon1,116 652
Toyota Prado 937 1,253
Toyota Prius 94 103
Toyota RAV4 1,091 1,160
Toyota Rukus 134 140
Toyota Tarago 44 115
Toyota Yaris 1,599 1,488
Toyota Total 15,885 16,633

Change -4.5%

Volkswagen 2011 2010
Volkswagen Amarok 4X2 25 0
Volkswagen Amarok 4X4 196 0
Volkswagen Caddy 133 139
Volkswagen Caddy Life 38 28
Volkswagen Caravelle 2 11
Volkswagen Crafter 29 87
Volkswagen Eos 65 104
Volkswagen Golf 1,082 1,149
Volkswagen Jetta 271 240
Volkswagen Multivan 68 41
Volkswagen New Beetle 2 47
Volkswagen Beetle Cabrio1 16
Volkswagen Passat 329 295
Volkswagen Passat CC 40 106
Volkswagen Polo 408 318
Volkswagen Tiguan 882 258
Volkswagen Touareg 136 38
Volkswagen Transporter 96 128
Volkswagen Transporter 10 17
Volkswagen Total 3,813 3,022

Change 26.2%

Mazda 2011 2010
Mazda BT-50 4X2 479 420
Mazda BT-50 4X4 388 330
Mazda CX-7 1,089 747
Mazda CX-9 399 292
Mazda MX5 28 29
Mazda RX8 6 18
Mazda2 1,966 1,281
Mazda3 4,234 2,871
Mazda6 549 485
Mazda Total 9,138 6,473

Change 41.2%

Hyundai 2011 2010
Hyundai Accent 351 0
Hyundai Elantra 745 139
Hyundai Getz 345 1,789
Hyundai Grandeur 0 1
Hyundai i20 1,163 250
Hyundai i30 2,418 2,496
Hyundai I45 308 148
Hyundai iLOAD 629 428
Hyundai iMAX 151 176
Hyundai ix35 948 738
Hyundai Santa Fe 359 391
Hyundai Sonata 0 3
Hyundai Tiburon 0 0
Hyundai Tucson 0 1
Hyundai Total 7,417 6,560

Change 13.1%

Jeep 2011 2010
Jeep Cherokee 91 155
Jeep Grand Cherokee 501 41
Jeep Patriot 24 103
Jeep Wrangler 209 226
Jeep Total 825 525

Change 57.1%
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Old 05-09-2011, 08:39 PM   #58
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Amazing, used to be Corolla V Commodore. Now the Mazda 3 V Commodore and outselling the Corolla by 1000 units.............
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Old 05-09-2011, 09:27 PM   #59
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Amazing, used to be Corolla V Commodore. Now the Mazda 3 V Commodore and outselling the Corolla by 1000 units.............
Corolla was never really a threat to Commodore. The closest it ever came to Commodore was in 2008 when it was about 3,000 sales behind. That's still a decent gap (about a month's worth of sales).
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Old 05-09-2011, 09:46 PM   #60
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Never thought i'd see Territory come within cooee of knocking off the Falcon. Its going great guns.

September should see Falcon start to pick up with LPi finally fitting the dealers.
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