Daytime Running Lamps - Page 2

mrbaxr6t · 07-12-2010, 09:00 AM

I agree that running during the day with lights on makes you stand out as evidenced by the hatred toward people that drive around with lowbeam/foglights on people on this forum hate people that do that, if people that did it "blended in" then there wouldn't be the hatred toward people that do this on the forum...

I agree it is an easy at-a-glance method to know if a vehicle is moving or stationary. maybe when cars come fitted with these as standard because of the increased safety maybe THEN it will be acceptable to drive round with lowbeam/foglights on...

Danny · 07-12-2010, 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by geckoGT

Think of it this way mate, while they are shaking there old fuddy duddy fists at your DRL's or headlights that are on in clear conditions, they have seen you and not likely to hit you (except out of road rage if they are really pathetic).

By the way, how is the Golf R? We are up to replace the Mini next year and I wanted to consider the Golf. Looks like I won't get any choice as the missus has her heart set on another Mini.

Hey mate, yeah the R is just great! Haven't got mine yet but the test drives blew me away, it's just beautiful, rides well, handles great (it's no crazy raw cooper s or 182 Clio, but it's fast and awd), and has a lot of kit!

I'd recommend one, although if the missus is set on a mini again then I don't think you'll convince her to go for the more sudued image of the golf!!!

psychoticgroove · 03-12-2010, 04:06 PM

It's a warning light.
'****3r inside'

Trevor 57 · 03-12-2010, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by psychoticgroove

It's a warning light.
'****3r inside'

agree 100% - rep for you

psychoticgroove · 03-12-2010, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Big Trev

agree 100% - rep for you

First Rep Woo Hooo!!

Cheers Big Trev!

Bobman · 03-12-2010, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by psychoticgroove

It's a warning light.
'****3r inside'

Agreed. Disappointing to see AU and BA/BF Falcon owners putting them on their rides.

The car isn't a new European car, so why bother? It's like putting FPV badges on an XT.

LTDHO · 03-12-2010, 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by psychoticgroove

It's a warning light.
'****3r inside'

Agree.

Last thing you need to see is headlights during the day. The Telstra vans are the worse. You see one and BAM! blurry dots everywhere and your eyes take longer to adjust during the day.

Ban them IMO

If you can't see a white van driving towards you, then headlights aint going to make any difference.

KYSBF · 06-12-2010, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by psychoticgroove

It's a warning light.
'****3r inside'

+1

XRFutura · 03-12-2010, 04:09 PM

My understanding is, daytime running lights are comming in due to the changing of european vehicle regulations, as i understand all new release cars in europe must have these fitted as standard. Studies over in europe have found the risk of being involved in an accident is reduced with vehicles using DRLs compared to vehicles without. Also due to europe having significantly short days during the winter months.

This might be part of the reason why the HSV E2 and E3 range have DRLs is because they would have been sold in england (before the sale of opal/vauxhall which the sale got cancelled), which the DRL regulations have come into effect as well.

jpd80 · 03-12-2010, 04:14 PM

The main areas for DRL are Europe and Canada where daylight conditions tend to be much duller
and overcast than Australia. Once you make something compulsory, the intention becomes
secondary to enforcement and fines.....

Brazen · 03-12-2010, 04:17 PM

Telstra is self-insured, all their cars have daytime running lights. That gives you some perspective on their effectiveness on reducing accidents.

flappist · 03-12-2010, 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Brazen

Telstra is self-insured, all their cars have daytime running lights. That gives you some perspective on their effectiveness on reducing accidents.

Telstra?

The mob that allow V8 Commodores & Falcons as fleet vehicles except those that have upgraded brakes or handling?
The mob that require the use of 91 RON fuel regardless of what the manufacturer recommends?
The mob that excommunicated their largest dealer in the country (Crazy Johns) costing them $300,000,000 in lost revinue over myopic bloodyminded refusal to accept market trends.

Yeh they always make logical and sensible decisions.

Bureaucracy in Telstra makes local councils look efficient and flexible......

About 15 years ago a former employee of mine was working for a contracting company in Canberra investigating various methodologies of reducing the road toll of motorcyclists.
They were told that any data regarding permanently on headlights was to be ignored unless it was supportive as this was a previous policy decission and as such is immutable.

Trevor 57 · 03-12-2010, 04:18 PM

Which is contrary to Victorian law, be interested to know how they got around that.

Smoke Pursuit · 03-12-2010, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Big Trev

Which is contrary to Victorian law, be interested to know how they got around that.

Its not against the law to have your headlights on during the day..

Trevor 57 · 03-12-2010, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by DASH GT

Its not against the law to have your headlights on during the day..

I agree, but that is NOT what Brazen said, he was talking about Telstra and daytime driving lights, which is another term for "white or yellow fog lights"

TheInterceptor · 03-12-2010, 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Big Trev

I agree, but that is NOT what Brazen said, he was talking about Telstra and daytime driving lights, which is another term for "white or yellow fog lights"

But as far as i can see, Telstra's version of DRL's are having the headlights wired up to turn on when the car is started, not using any aux lamps.

monk3y · 21-11-2016, 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Trevor 57

I agree, but that is NOT what Brazen said, he was talking about Telstra and daytime driving lights, which is another term for "white or yellow fog lights"

DRL's (Daytime Running Lights) are different to driving lights and fog lights.
DRL's come on with the switching on of the ignition - Legal in Victoria.
Driving lights are additional high beam lighting and can only be switched on/off with high beam on/off - also legal in Victoria
Fog lights are the white or yellow lights that you are referring to and can only be legally used in poor weather conditions.

mac_man_luke · 03-12-2010, 04:40 PM

telstra just have the headlights wired so they cant be turned off

Trevor 57 · 03-12-2010, 04:47 PM

I think you are right TheInterceptor

XCwillo · 03-12-2010, 04:58 PM

I always have my headlights on when i drive. For the sole reason it makes the car look meaner and alive!

Riksta · 03-12-2010, 05:01 PM

I'm one of these people who will turn headlights on if it isn't a bright clear sunny day just to aid visibility of my car.

On a nice sunny day, during the day, I won't, but if its cloudy or darkish, I'll flick them on.

I have been thinking of fitting some LED DRL's to the front of the Zetec just to help in situations where I probably don't need the headlights but would like that extra bit of visibility, LED's last longer than globes and would save the odd globe burning out.

I don't think they are anywhere near as bright or annoying as fog lights. I've had Audi's and the like head towards me on a dull day without too much of a blink, as opposed to the odd XR6 or the like with their foggies on which are much more bright and dazzling.

Interesting to note that they can be classed as foglights, and fine drivers with them on, in Victoria. Don't some cars have DRL's that are on whenever the car is running from the factory? Surely you can't be fined for something that's on because the factory designed it that way? Would almost be like getting a defect in a Lamborghini for your car being too low or something!

MAD · 03-12-2010, 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Riksta

I don't think they are anywhere near as bright or annoying as fog lights. I've had Audi's and the like head towards me on a dull day without too much of a blink, as opposed to the odd XR6 or the like with their foggies on which are much more bright and dazzling.

Interesting to note that they can be classed as foglights, and fine drivers with them on, in Victoria. Don't some cars have DRL's that are on whenever the car is running from the factory? Surely you can't be fined for something that's on because the factory designed it that way? Would almost be like getting a defect in a Lamborghini for your car being too low or something!

DRL's can not be mistaken for fog lights.
DRL's turn off as soon as you turn your headlights on.
One method of DRL is to run the highbeams at about 50%. (Honda Accord and VW Golf come to mind)

WMD351 · 03-12-2010, 05:57 PM

Anybody know what happened with the Mercedes big boss fined for using DLR's in Vic?
The police swore they were driving lights and slugged him, but he was planning on flying in experts from Germany to challenge it in court.
A few months back now, but I never heard a result.

For the record, I love them. In my opinion they increase your visibility to others quite markedly in a range of conditions.

**ebxr8240** · 03-12-2010, 05:02 PM

Here we go again !!!

Trevor 57 · 03-12-2010, 05:06 PM

I will always run my headlights when on a lengthy trip, but don't turn them on during the daytime around town unless it is pretty ****** weather.

SteveJH · 03-12-2010, 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Big Trev

I will always run my headlights when on a lengthy trip, but don't turn them on during the daytime around town unless it is pretty ****** weather.

Same for me.

Always done it, always will...well, unless I get a car with those LED DRL's.

Dave_au · 03-12-2010, 05:11 PM

I'm sure the next gen of Falcons will incorporate DRLS

**ebxr8240** · 03-12-2010, 05:38 PM

Yep never investigate anything unless you know the result first !!...
I would say

Especially out of Canberra...

Ben73 · 03-12-2010, 05:58 PM

Some of the LED DRL looks pretty cool, so look tacky. They are no where near as annoying as fog lights and some normal headlights.

The cars at work have day running headlights. Soon as the key is on, the lights come on. Big deal though it's nothing bad. But they wired some of them up wrong on the new cars so if you switch the switch to 'parkers' the headlights go off and parkers only light up.

At work on the trains we are supposed to use High beam and Fog lights 24/7 no matter whether it's day or night, clear or raining.
Although you dip the high beam, or just switch off the headlight all together when approaching other trains...

Trevor 57 · 03-12-2010, 06:15 PM

Trouble with having headlights on during the day is that sometimes people knock them into high beam and that is a pain in the ****.