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as a side note, I'm amazed Sandown is being redeveloped. I honestly thought it was going the way of the dodo because of this issue. To those who bought new units right next to the track..... ![]()
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+1 Very Suprised Sandown has survived but very happy it has, love that place.
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Originally Posted by GT450 .Bob Jane has ruined more motorsport complexes and events so for gods sake don't let him near this one. Quote:
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Screamin' it's lungs out!
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F1 @ calder....... LOL x 1,000,000. will never happen.
calder has dead, for 2 main reasons: 1. bob jane. nuf said. 2. noise. same syndrome as essedon airport........ it's been there forever, then people move within a few k's of it, knowing full well it's there, then think they can complain about the noise ![]() as for F1 @ P.I.......... i cant see that either. the access is the main prob, and as the whole area has a clamp down on further development, (ie: green area), nothing will change in a significant way. BTW....... it wasn't the residents that stopped the hotel/golf course project. it was council, for the green reasons. i know this as i'm a P.I. resident. and as for improving facilites for F1, V8, MotoGP........ i'll agree with u on F1 (that wont go there anyway) and MotoGP, but V8 shitboxes..... HA! they get 24 people there, so how would that warrant better facil's......? u only need to look at the lack of crowd's there for the 500 to see that. we won't mention the extra V8 round there last december either..... less than 5,000 people...... as a footnote......... in 2009, the biggest attended event @ P.I. was the MotoGP, with 80,000 odd there. V8's 500 had 19,000........ and that number has fallen since, but......... the P.I. Classic gets 45,000 there in march, making it the second biggest event @ P.I., and the biggest car-based event, each year. also, it's a proper international event, with real race cars, not a one-off thing for 2 different taxi's. maybe people should look at what events are a success and use those as means for betterment, which i'm all for at all circuits (and yes, P.I. has seen some great improvments since Lindsay Fox bought it, but it still needs more), instead of something that runs on a name and actually costs more money to the track owners than what it brings back in, which is exactly why eastern creek didnt fight and told V8SC to go jump when the homebush proposal was tabled. |
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If you think Melbourne loses money now, watch how much the Vic. Gov. will burn if it is moved out to the boon docks then. Bud Bud. |
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The Event is a lot bigger than the race itself. In fact as a loyal Melbournian I'd wouldn't object to it going back to Adelaide as the whole weekend party thing was massive. Phillip island would make a great race but the isolation of the place makes it too hard. Avalon could work, if they ran special trains or something, and built a circuit. But Calder is not of standard for off street drags, nor can it be relied upon to be open, other than at Bobs whim. It will NEVER happen. A purpose built circuit like Bahrain or China would be great, but where would you put it that still has public transport access???
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I remember watching Alfie Constanso,Max Walker,John Goss in F5000, and Jimmy in the Big M falcon racing P Brock in the Bob Jane monza in the seventies and eighties at Calder
Its dissapointing to here its gone to rack and rewin,hell i even watched Ken Warby in the Ford drag truck take on the Kenworth drag truck and when they fired up the jet turbines it blew all the oil drums/rubbish bins up over the spectator hill behind them. RIP CALDER PARK Paul Callaghan Hawkesbury NSW |
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Make the V8's a championship round... it isn't at the moment is it...?
Or what about moving it to one of the last rounds of the year, when people are gearing up for Summer, Christmas ect... warmer weather too... |
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Only problem is that Calder Park is full of the same type of people you see doing Chap laps
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Theres alot of projects that could work but they all require serious investment from several levels of government and probably also from the private sector. They may as well stay in Melbourne then. Financially its at a loss, but the event is hardly a "laughing stock" within F1. Most consider it one of the marquis flyaway events of the calender. If CVC werent operating their scheme of the highest bidder gets an F1 round, they could be running alot closer to break-even.
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i would also love to see philip island get the gp, surely it would attract good crowds if it had excellent facilities, another calder article http://brimbank-leader.whereilive.co...-park-raceway/ , the money they are talkin about does`nt seem like a whole lot, i mean my mates in the council he reckons it costs like $180000 to put a round about in, that can`t be the final figure? |
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There has been lots of talk about a few organisations putting in quite a bit of money at avalon for a multipurpose track....
Hope it happens! Would be great to have track days, rallycross, autocross, motocross, gocart tracks all in the one spot! |
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http://news.theage.com.au/breaking-n...923-15n7u.html
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Having been to Melbourne for the Grand Prix about 6 or 7 times I have seen it change from the early years where it was packed to what it is now, less grandstands and less people attending. If they were to put it out to Calder they would really kill it. Where would you stay? In the city and bus out to Calder everyday? A lot of people still go to the GP because it is easy to get to in Melbourne. It is 10 minutes from the city. Put it out at Calder and you will only get the true enthusiasts going. How many corporate fat cats wouldn't bother because it is all too hard and far away to get to. These are the people that make you the money. The cheapest corporate tickets are about $1000. Leave it where it is. The reason it makes a loss is because of the money hungry Bernie, he charges a disgusting amount just to host the event. This sum was a lot smaller back in the day. Thats why it is so hard to make a money out of a race. Why do you think they go to Bahrain and Turkey and race in front of no one? Bernie gets a shedload of money out of it! That is why! |
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Oh and I am with you, after growing up with motor sport 30 + years ago and especially during the 70's, I now can't stand the current formula either but at least most people can identify with and take something from the V8 super cars, bogan or not. Look at the commotion on this forum alone when 888 went to Holden. Anyway the race is not the problem because no matter whether its Adelaide or Melbourne, it is the location that is the issue. The Clipsal 500 would also die if it move to AIR (God forbid) or Mallala too. And for the decision makers to be, move it from Albert Park at your own peril. Bud Bud |
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Well i have been to every clipsal and i wouldn't call it a drunken boganfest by any means. I went to many early grands prix in Adelaide too and the reason the Clipsal is so well attended is that it's organised so well and always has been Melbourne can't say that. I too had stopped for 7/8 years attending Melbourne , even though it's close , because it was boring especially the Schumacher - Ferrari years and the v8s well that's just a bloody display not a race.
Having said that i did return this year as a guest of a friend and enjoyed it, i will be back next year because the V8s will get 500kms of racing over 3 days and that appeals to me.I personally think that it's being done just in case the GP falls over in the future there will be an event that can take over. adelaide gives the fans what they want and now maybe Melbourne can too. So love them or hate them the V8 Supercars draw the crowds and the F1s depend on their followers to draw a decent crowd as their recent absence proved. But as a stand alone event Clipsal vs F1s Clipsal wins hands down in MY opinion. Cheers GT450 |
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Also the airshow could do with some better facilities aswell.
A complete motorsport COMPLEX would be awesome there, and would basically make Calder null and void and we wouldn't have to put up with Bobs rubbish (haha..pun) anymore.
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yeh and only 10 mins u the road from here
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