There will be no Christmas joy at the bowser for motorists - Page 2

stevz · 17-12-2013, 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by imugli

Or educate yourself so that you don't get left behind and can join the wealthy. Unless you're happy being in the lower class.

Those who complain about globalisation and concentration of wealth have given up. On themselves. If you can't beat the bank, learn how to become the bank then go about doing it. Otherwise stop complaining. You have a choice. EVERYONE has access to the information necessary to become wealthy. It's on the internet and in libraries and in fact probably just around the corner from you if you care to ask around your neighbourhood.

Anyone who decides they don't have the option of joining the upper class is basically saying they're happier being in the lower class. If that's the case, so be it, but that's a choice you've made, not one that's been made for you.

Spare me the BS. It's all very good in theory but unrealistic in the real world.
If it was as easy as you say, none of us would be here on a Ford forum... We'd be on a Ferrari or Bentley forum.

**thefargo** · 17-12-2013, 05:18 PM

you have short memories. John Howard clearly stated that when the Iraq war ended, fuel prices will drop to below $1.00 per litre. Just be patient.

**DJM83** · 17-12-2013, 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by teak81

Never look at the price of fuel. Nor do I care. I am going to drive regardless.

Agreed. Im the same.

imugli · 17-12-2013, 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by stevz

Spare me the BS. It's all very good in theory but unrealistic in the real world.
If it was as easy as you say, none of us would be here on a Ford forum... We'd be on a Ferrari or Bentley forum.

So you've made your choice, I see. That's fine. Good luck with that. I hope it serves you well.

stevz · 17-12-2013, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by imugli

So you've made your choice, I see. That's fine. Good luck with that. I hope it serves you well.

So I take it you're a billionaire then?

No, I didn't think so.....

GCRXR6 · 17-12-2013, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by thefargo

you have short memories. John Howard clearly stated that when the Iraq war ended, fuel prices will drop to below $1.00 per litre. Just be patient.

stevz · 17-12-2013, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by thefargo

you have short memories. John Howard clearly stated that when the Iraq war ended, fuel prices will drop to below $1.00 per litre. Just be patient.

And people were gullible enough to actually believe this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OWK61KDQ0Lc
This is my best memory of John Howard. Everything else is best forgotten.

**redxm** · 17-12-2013, 06:06 PM

I love you city folk picking and choosing what day to get fuel. It doesnt matter one bit out here. Going to a servo is like going to the brothel. Guaranteed you will get screwed and an empty wallet.

pundit · 17-12-2013, 06:29 PM

Been like this for the last 2 weeks in Mount Gambier.. Nearly fell over at the LPG! :o

Granted this is the most expensive, don't know what petrol prices are but the best for LPG currently is 89.9cpl here.

imugli · 17-12-2013, 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by stevz

So I take it you're a billionaire then?

No, I didn't think so.....

Not yet, but I've decided I'm not going to be one of those that sits around in the poor class complaining about those in the wealthy class.

I'm one of the ones that has decided to educate myself sufficiently to climb into the wealthy class.

I've decided. So I will.

And it's obvious that you have decided - your avatar, your signature, the content of your posts...

stevz · 17-12-2013, 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by pundit

Been like this for the last 2 weeks in Mount Gambier.. Nearly fell over at the LPG! :o

Granted this is the most expensive, don't know what petrol prices are but the best for LPG currently is 89.9cpl here.

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105.9 for lpg? Wow, just wow.

Nikked · 17-12-2013, 07:04 PM

1.63 Vortex 95 in Tamworth...

pundit · 17-12-2013, 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by stevz

105.9 for lpg? Wow, just wow.

Scrap that, just saw a servo here with it for $108.9.

If I was to go away for christmas, it would almost be cheaper to run my BF on petrol over LPG!

Having a look around online I see prices in Adelaide are around ~96cpl for LPG while melbourne is ~89cpl..

I guess it isn't too bad down here considering they have to truck it in, I am 430km from a capital city.

stevz · 17-12-2013, 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by pundit

Scrap that, just saw a servo here with it for $108.9.

If I was to go away for christmas, it would almost be cheaper to run my BF on petrol over LPG!

Having a look around online I see prices in Adelaide are around ~96cpl for LPG while melbourne is ~89cpl..

I guess it isn't too bad down here considering they have to truck it in, I am 430km from a capital city.

This is criminal. It wasn't that long ago that lpg was around 15c.

superyob · 17-12-2013, 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by stevz

Spare me the BS. It's all very good in theory but unrealistic in the real world.
If it was as easy as you say, none of us would be here on a Ford forum... We'd be on a Ferrari or Bentley forum.

Just remember the Gt40. When Ford wants to go racing they can humiliate even Ferrari... I'm sure the 427 Shelby Cobra still makes some Euro car lovers break out in a nightmarish sweat...

As to the price of petrol, it is what it is and there is nothing we can do about it. Another forum member explained the price rises beautifully, a few years ago when he said it's because the sea is wetter today than it was yesterday...

pundit · 17-12-2013, 08:28 PM

Yeh, its a little bit crazy and out there hey!

Dodge · 17-12-2013, 08:33 PM

prices went up last week so did the coles and wollies discount coupons, i got 30 c a ltr off last week saves 24 dollars but had to buy 120 of food

superyob · 17-12-2013, 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by imugli

Or educate yourself so that you don't get left behind and can join the wealthy. Unless you're happy being in the lower class.

Those who complain about globalisation and concentration of wealth have given up. On themselves. If you can't beat the bank, learn how to become the bank then go about doing it. Otherwise stop complaining. You have a choice. EVERYONE has access to the information necessary to become wealthy. It's on the internet and in libraries and in fact probably just around the corner from you if you care to ask around your neighbourhood.

Anyone who decides they don't have the option of joining the upper class is basically saying they're happier being in the lower class. If that's the case, so be it, but that's a choice you've made, not one that's been made for you.

Education is the key to having a secure lifestyle for most. Ability to engage with education however, is an entirely different situation...

Bent8 · 17-12-2013, 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by imugli

Or educate yourself so that you don't get left behind and can join the wealthy. Unless you're happy being in the lower class.

Those who complain about globalisation and concentration of wealth have given up. On themselves. If you can't beat the bank, learn how to become the bank then go about doing it. Otherwise stop complaining. You have a choice. EVERYONE has access to the information necessary to become wealthy. It's on the internet and in libraries and in fact probably just around the corner from you if you care to ask around your neighbourhood.

Anyone who decides they don't have the option of joining the upper class is basically saying they're happier being in the lower class. If that's the case, so be it, but that's a choice you've made, not one that's been made for you.

That my friend is wishful thinking at it's finest...

If the person reading your post is relatively wealthy or works hard and earns a good living, they will most likely agree with what you said... but the system is designed to take from the lower/middle class and feed the top 2-3%.

Sure there are whingers who could improve their financial situation if they put in the effort but when you look at the overall picture, it's a predatory system.

Most of us will eventually end up losing!

Anyways, back to the topic... I remember back in 2006 when petrol hit $1.30 and people were signing petitions and threatening to boycott certain fuel companies... obviously didn't work so no point complaining, just fill up and drive.

stevz · 17-12-2013, 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Bent8

That my friend is wishful thinking at it's finest...

If the person reading your post is relatively wealthy or works hard and earns a good living, they will most likely agree with what you said... but the system is designed to take from the lower/middle class and feed the top 2-3%.

Sure there are whingers who could improve their financial situation if they put in the effort but when you look at the overall picture, it's a predatory system.

Most of us will eventually end up losing!

Which is exactly what I was getting at when I said "the few rich and elite" except he quoted me completely out of context and just ran away with it...

kaniSS · 17-12-2013, 10:31 PM

What ****** me off the most is our prices are controlled by Singapore's "gasoline price"

bobthebilda · 17-12-2013, 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by kaniSS

What ****** me off the most is our prices are controlled by Singapore's "gasoline price"

Its not controlled by anything. If it was, it wouldnt jump 20 cents a litre in a day. The issue is, that circa 70% of Australian fuel needs are imported. Theres no incentive for a oil company or refiner to sell to Australia, if they can get a better price from an overseas customer. We simply have to pay world prices. Every country does, even the Saudis do, even tho they only pay 10 to 20 cents a litre at the pump.

stevz · 17-12-2013, 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by bobthebilda

We simply have to pay world prices. Every country does, even the Saudis do, even tho they only pay 10 to 20 cents a litre at the pump.

So how does that work?

tweeked · 17-12-2013, 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by stevz

So how does that work?

If you can sell fuel for $150 a barrel on the world market, or $80 in Australia, where would you choose to sell it?

Its funny, the same people here who want to buy parts on the net from overseas because they are cheaper dont want to pay the more expensive overseas rate for fuel.

Nikked · 17-12-2013, 11:35 PM

...any way.

Don't know about anyone else, but I will enjoy taking the 8-iron over to the coast for a few days over the holidays.

The odd fuel stop makes for good photos.

**DJR-351** · 17-12-2013, 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by stevz

So how does that work?

United States of America, Saudi Arabia, Iran, Egypt, Burma, Malaysia, Kuwait, Bahrain, Trinidad and Tobago, Brunei, Bolivia and Venezuela all subsidize the cost of petrol and other petroleum products......

stevz · 17-12-2013, 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by tweeked

If you can sell fuel for $150 a barrel on the world market, or $80 in Australia, where would you choose to sell it?

Its funny, the same people here who want to buy parts on the net from overseas because they are cheaper dont want to pay the more expensive overseas rate for fuel.

I was referring to bobthebilda's statement that the Saudis pay world prices for their oil like everyone else, yet only pay 10-20c at the pump. How do they manage that?

Itsme · 17-12-2013, 11:46 PM

Oh well no different to any other price hikes, if you need it you will pay for it.

You have no choice unless you park your car up.

stevz · 17-12-2013, 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by DJR-351

United States of America, Saudi Arabia, Iran, Egypt, Burma, Malaysia, Kuwait, Bahrain, Trinidad and Tobago, Brunei, Bolivia and Venezuela all subsidize the cost of petrol and other petroleum products......

So while other countries subsidize their fuel, Australia taxes the **** out of it.

And they call us the lucky country?

neptune blue · 17-12-2013, 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by imugli

Not yet, but I've decided I'm not going to be one of those that sits around in the poor class complaining about those in the wealthy class.

I'm one of the ones that has decided to educate myself sufficiently to climb into the wealthy class.

I've decided. So I will.

And it's obvious that you have decided - your avatar, your signature, the content of your posts...

Off the topic a bit but do know anyone that is wealthy , I mean really wealthy
Well I do
My brother in law ( who I will not name) has an estimated wealth of $300 million AUD

I asked him once how did you manage to be so successful
He said 2 things
Hard work
And luck

I said to him luck ?
He said yes , there are many people he knows that are smarter , harder working than him and do everything right but have not succeeded

You have to be at the right place at the right time and acording to someone that has more money than anyone can spend in a life time, that is luck

I am a sales manager with a multinational I have an MBA and I have exceeded sales targets at every company I have worked, signed multi million dollar deals but I have never been able to "hit the big time"

Guys not as smart as me who stay out late with the boss, get ****ed, go to the parlours with the boss ignor their families and cheat on their partners have been promoted over me

Who says you need an education to earn big bucks

We have a driver ( contractor) where I work that's earns close to 400K per annum
He's as dumb as they come but he is a machine

Good luck with your plan to educate yourself to move into the "upper class" sounds like you have it all figured out ?
Make sure you let us know when you make your first million