Force 8...(with average pic!!) - Page 2

**DJM83** · 06-10-2006, 06:35 PM

well spotted looks pretty good too abit of a sleeper

Disco1986 · 06-10-2006, 06:58 PM

im sorry for my lack of brains, but wot is a bobtail?

LUXO_8 · 06-10-2006, 07:08 PM

little lip spoiler on the boot

klawsterfobik · 06-10-2006, 07:29 PM

i cant see the front on pic *shrugs*

does look good though, i really like the twin exhaust, bobtail and reversing lights. Though im not too sure on the script for "Force 8" or the naming of it. If its going to be "Force anything" it should be supercharged, or turbo IMO.

nothing say you cant do it yourself though

sfr rob · 06-10-2006, 08:36 PM

the plastic around the area where the your rego goes arnt reversing lights.. they are just a useless bit of plastic on the fairmont ghias... its prety much the only way to distinguish a fairmont ghia from a fairmont from the outside at a glance.

coyote · 06-10-2006, 09:23 PM

Force 6 & 8 launch in Brisbane 30 Oct so a little birdy told me

Jock260 · 06-10-2006, 11:07 PM

is it an option for a manual?

[Tonko] · 06-10-2006, 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by SSBUB

havent seen a bobtail since the VL days

never seen an EA SVO, EB/ED XR or ED sprint?

Filthy GT-P · 06-10-2006, 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Jock260

is it an option for a manual?

See thread in performance FPV Section apparently only available in 6 speed auto. See link Force 8 & 6 thread

Matty4 · 07-10-2006, 01:46 AM

Sorry everyone....
I tried to get some more photos with a proper camera tonight but the cars were already gone.

Cheers,
Matty

Dezza · 07-10-2006, 01:48 AM

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Originally Posted by TonkoXR8

never seen an EA SVO, EB/ED XR or ED sprint?

and also the AU Falcon Classic

FPV8U · 07-10-2006, 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Matty4

Sorry everyone....
I tried to get some more photos with a proper camera tonight but the cars were already gone.

Cheers,
Matty

Dammit... No more phone pics from the other night?

klawsterfobik · 07-10-2006, 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by sfr rob

the plastic around the area where the your rego goes arnt reversing lights.. they are just a useless bit of plastic on the fairmont ghias... its prety much the only way to distinguish a fairmont ghia from a fairmont from the outside at a glance.

*shakes head* how useless is that? it wouldnt be hard to put a couple of bulb holders in there and some bulbs.

philmynuts2 · 07-10-2006, 10:25 AM

yeah, thats what i thought... i always thought they were reversing lights, till i was standing behind the car when my brother was reversing it, and they didnt light up as i thought they would... then i was told they are just for looks.

LeadFoot81 · 07-10-2006, 12:02 PM

Ford/FPV will make a fortune selling those bootlip spoilers to enthusiasts with BA/BFs!

Car looks alright, I like the no spoiler/no spoiler with bodykit look.

photn · 07-10-2006, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by klawsterfobik

i cant see the front on pic *shrugs*

does look good though, i really like the twin exhaust, bobtail and reversing lights. Though im not too sure on the script for "Force 8" or the naming of it. If its going to be "Force anything" it should be supercharged, or turbo IMO.

nothing say you cant do it yourself though

Exactly. DO IT YOURSELF.lol. hehehehee the it will trully be a FORCE 8 or FORCE 6.
is this "FORCE" anything to get hyped up about if its just a fairmont with a diff engine.

like its a good step forward and a good performance option.

how many ppl will buy these. whats the projected sales figures and who is it aimed at?

the black pig · 07-10-2006, 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by photn

how many ppl will buy these. whats the projected sales figures and who is it aimed at?

It's aimed at me. And others who love the performance, but think the current FPV exteriors look too lairy and the interiors look like they were designed by a bitter old queen.

flappist · 07-10-2006, 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by klawsterfobik

Though im not too sure on the script for "Force 8" or the naming of it. If its going to be "Force anything" it should be supercharged, or turbo IMO.

nothing say you cant do it yourself though

Yeh, bloody ford marketing, they never say what they mean....

Really they are confused:
Focus isn't sharp
Fiesta doesn't party
Falcon doesn't have have a beak
Pursuit doesn't chase things and more imortantly,
Super Pursuit doesn't chase things with its undies on the outside

Why is that so many come up with a total fantasy based on their own agenda whenever any snippets of info on new products leak out?

Now as far as who is going to buy these new toys, maybe people who want a performance vehicle but don't want to stick out in the crowd and attract the attention of all the wrong people.

WASP · 07-10-2006, 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by flappist

Now as far as who is going to buy these new toys, maybe people who want a performance vehicle but don't want to stick out in the crowd and attract the attention of all the wrong people.

My point exactly. So with this in mind, don't you think the name 'Force' would be considered a little boy racer like for this demographic?

XtRmn8 · 08-10-2006, 04:03 AM

I really do not see the point of the Force6 and Force8 in the FPV lineup.

From the sound of it the Force6 is a Typhoon with a lip spoiler and a few extra features that the Fairmont Ghia has over a Typhoon, which if you compare the spec sheet are not great. Same story with the Force8 and GT-P, not a great deal of difference.

I think that FPV/Ford have just slapped together a new addition by using things they already have, nothing new really!

Don't get me wrong, I am sure that there are some people out there who would want to buy them but I just do not see the point. Last luxury model of a similar kind was the TL50 and that thing was a great hit.

flappist · 08-10-2006, 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by XtRmn8

I really do not see the point of the Force6 and Force8 in the FPV lineup.

From the sound of it the Force6 is a Typhoon with a lip spoiler and a few extra features that the Fairmont Ghia has over a Typhoon, which if you compare the spec sheet are not great. Same story with the Force8 and GT-P, not a great deal of difference.

I think that FPV/Ford have just slapped together a new addition by using things they already have, nothing new really!

Don't get me wrong, I am sure that there are some people out there who would want to buy them but I just do not see the point. Last luxury model of a similar kind was the TL50 and that thing was a great hit.

Just like the standard Ford range, the XT, Futura, XR6, Fairmont and Ghia are all exaclty the same with a few bits of plastic aren't they and really a GT is just a XT with some dits of plastic and different engine.
Come to think of it a commodore is just a falcon with a slightly different body engine and bits of plastic........

b2tf · 08-10-2006, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by XtRmn8

I really do not see the point of the Force6 and Force8 in the FPV lineup.

Think Senator/Clubsport killer. XR8 v Clubsport has never been a fair comparison IMHO....

XR8 = SS SS/V
Force 6/8 = Senator etc.

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Last luxury model of a similar kind was the TL50 and that thing was a great hit.

Yeah so much so they sold how many of them? TL50 was a beaut car I agree, but who knew about them? Who ever saw one at a dealership? Had the marketing been more up to scratch they would have sold hundreds.

LUXO_8 · 08-10-2006, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by XtRmn8

Don't get me wrong, I am sure that there are some people out there who would want to buy them but I just do not see the point. Last luxury model of a similar kind was the TL50 and that thing was a great hit.

thats not a fair comparo.....the TL50 was a Grange compettitor...and ford didnt market it....as mentioned who actually knew it existed

photn · 09-10-2006, 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by flappist

Yeh, bloody ford marketing, they never say what they mean....

Really they are confused:
Focus isn't sharp
Fiesta doesn't party
Falcon doesn't have have a beak
Pursuit doesn't chase things and more imortantly,
Super Pursuit doesn't chase things with its undies on the outside

Why is that so many come up with a total fantasy based on their own agenda whenever any snippets of info on new products leak out?

Now as far as who is going to buy these new toys, maybe people who want a performance vehicle but don't want to stick out in the crowd and attract the attention of all the wrong people.

well my fiesta has had on occasions "partys" in it. so for me it party's enough. lol.

**M&Ms** · 09-10-2006, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by flappist

Yeh, bloody ford marketing, they never say what they mean....

Really they are confused:
Focus isn't sharp
Fiesta doesn't party
Falcon doesn't have have a beak
Pursuit doesn't chase things and more imortantly,
Super Pursuit doesn't chase things with its undies on the outside

You forgot to mention that a Tornado can in fact spin in circles very very fast.

**data_mine** · 09-10-2006, 08:02 PM

I regularily see a TL50. Anyone know how to tell if it's a series 3 from the exterior?

Bossxr8 · 09-10-2006, 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by SSBUB

i think there would be a bit of an uproar if a charged 8 was made by any camp. The more power a car has, the more it gets the back hairs up of local do-gooders concerned with road safety etc

Only if its a Ford, Holden can keep forcing the power numbers up as much as it wants and you won't hear a peep from anyone. Whats the deal. The Typhoon made less power and wasn't any faster than a GTS but the media jumped all over it. How do HSV keep the do gooders quite.

R0BD0G · 09-10-2006, 08:19 PM

is it possible this particular ford model could be the next police pursuit interceptor

Bossxr8 · 09-10-2006, 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by XtRmn8

I really do not see the point of the Force6 and Force8 in the FPV lineup.

From the sound of it the Force6 is a Typhoon with a lip spoiler and a few extra features that the Fairmont Ghia has over a Typhoon, which if you compare the spec sheet are not great. Same story with the Force8 and GT-P, not a great deal of difference.

I think that FPV/Ford have just slapped together a new addition by using things they already have, nothing new really!

Don't get me wrong, I am sure that there are some people out there who would want to buy them but I just do not see the point. Last luxury model of a similar kind was the TL50 and that thing was a great hit.

You could say the same thing about the HSV Senator. Its pretty much the same deal.

SSBUB · 09-10-2006, 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Bossxr8

Only if its a Ford, Holden can keep forcing the power numbers up as much as it wants and you won't hear a peep from anyone. Whats the deal. The Typhoon made less power and wasn't any faster than a GTS but the media jumped all over it. How do HSV keep the do gooders quite.

i wasnt aware of the typhoon having people jumping on it because of its 270kw claim. I dont know why when holden have higher figures - as do ford themselves.
I believe even holden is starting to push the power limits though - someone with a bit of sway behind them will rally against power outputs of 300+kw and before you know it, there will be a huge following of the general public calling for the reduction of high output figures. And further down the track both camps will be saying 'this car is rated at 270kw' but actually prob does closer to 290 etc. A bit like the phoon i guess - what its rated at and the power it makes will be alot different.