How can ford make a better car? - Page 2

**FTE217** · 18-04-2005, 04:07 PM

Quality, reduce the cost cutting ! Its to damn obvious ! and above all train your dealers to be part of the real world ! Times are a changing very quick and loyalty is getting very thin.

FNQracing · 18-04-2005, 04:36 PM

Give me a reliable, powerfull, economical, nimble, well built rear drive sedan without diff clunks and whining drivelines and you'll have a customer for life.

**Stav** · 18-04-2005, 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Bluedriver

Quality, reduce the cost cutting ! Its to damn obvious ! and above all train your dealers to be part of the real world ! Times are a changing very quick and loyalty is getting very thin.

I agree.

Psycho Chicken · 18-04-2005, 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by useless

Programmable ecu would be a good idea.

No chance, there's a thing called emission laws.

jabba · 18-04-2005, 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by EF_Dave

lol, so true iRS in a ute is the stupidest thing i have ever heard, you would hate to have more weight on one side of the tray, the thing will drive lop sided. i think the SS utes are only rated at about 400kg or so, what a joke, enough capacity for the tool box and thats about it, its only for show.

Not only is it stupid and dumb, have you ever driven a SSVZ ute. you would think with haveing IRS the rear end would ride alot nicer then the ford. However there is only one way I can describe the ride in an SSVZ and that is SHIT HOUSE... The Falcon ute had far better Handling and road manners then the Commy.

I think the Holden V8 supercar team already knew of this and that why there running a ford front design suspension and a Ford design diff and rear suspension. Oh bugger me they also copied the the Ford heads.
Gee I tell you what I would hate to be a Holden supporter knowing that half of the Holden super car is copied from Ford..

VZSS250 · 18-04-2005, 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by jabba

Gee I tell you what I would hate to be a Holden supporter knowing that half of the Holden super car is copied from Ford..

What engine is in the Ford V8 Supercar?

Psycho Chicken · 18-04-2005, 06:27 PM

A wheezer?

XRQTOR · 18-04-2005, 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by VZSS250

What engine is in the Ford V8 Supercar?

A 5.oL ford motorsport engine. What engine is in the holden, is it running the gen III or the old 5.oL.

Perana · 18-04-2005, 08:31 PM

Some are running the old Chev but most are running the new "Aurora" Chev V8... which is similar design to a Ford wheezer IIRC

XRQTOR · 18-04-2005, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Perana XR8

Some are running the old Chev but most are running the new "Aurora" Chev V8... which is similar design to a Ford wheezer IIRC

Whats that mean.

jabba · 18-04-2005, 08:52 PM

All the Holdens supercars are running the Aurora Chev 5lt V8. Holden supercars Have never ran the Gen III, because they could not aford the extra cost of oil. ha ha ha

jabba · 18-04-2005, 09:00 PM

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Whats that mean.

Holden supercar use to have simiese ports wich are a pooly design head. Now Chev has copied the Ford engine (there are slight diferances) and holden are useing them in the supercars.

Sorry to go of track.

In regards to the thread. I would like the front spring and struts more firmer and more power between 1000 and 3000rpm for the XR8. The restatment of the sunglass holder like the AUs had.

**Stav** · 19-04-2005, 12:27 AM

Another improvement I thought of was for the pcv valve pipe to just beneath the broad band manifold on the sixes.They are plumbed into the intake manifold next to the map sensor and it over time leaks oil wrecking the map sensor.

The MaDDeSTMaN · 19-04-2005, 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by turboute

I would like to see Ford do a limited run of a decent 'hero car' just to enhance the brands image - could use the supercharged engine from the GT40 - It would have to be something up in the ferrari type specifications for a substantially lower price. Maybe even a 2 door version of XR8 or similar. It would also have to be extremely light - making some of the panels / bonnet etc out of alloy could help. This could also help them set up for introducing similar parts into the standard range.

The other thing I would like to see would be a smaller rwd mid sized car with 2-3L engine and maybe performance versions of it.

Both suggestions sound good to me, although I think personally neither will ever happen, I think that as weird as it might sound, the second one is more likely to happen.

I think the most important thing for Ford to do to make a better car is to make something unique to the Australian market - it worked for the Territory - and make something that people are interested in. I think Ford are nuts to not be at least working on a car smaller then a Falcon that is still RWD, it would have no competition, and as seen in http://www.fordforums.com.au/showthread.php?t=3012 there is interest, at least from people on here...

Come on Ford, give us what we want, a limited edition "hero" car, and a small to medium size RWD/AWD car...

turboute · 19-04-2005, 03:44 PM

I would think the only serious competeditors to a smaller RWD sedan would be among the ranks of BMW, Lexus, Merc etc, If Ford could produce something of similar (I dont expect the same though) quality for around 30k it should do fine (also could eat up vectra and astra sales).

xceler8shun · 19-04-2005, 04:16 PM

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Just remember one thing.I took my car in for a steering rack recall and it ended up leaking dry the very next day.When I went back they denied everything.So it is the luck of the draw too.

i took mine in for the same thing and a week or so later the clutch cable wore a hole through a power steering line

DanielXR8 · 19-04-2005, 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Bluedriver

Quality, reduce the cost cutting ! Its to damn obvious ! and above all train your dealers to be part of the real world ! Times are a changing very quick and loyalty is getting very thin.

You nailed it Bluedriver.

Daniel

rob_o · 19-04-2005, 10:33 PM

Yes I agree on training the dealers. I test drove a Focus LX with the salesman beside me, and he told me that it handles well because its the sports model. So I told him that the Zetec is the sports model and he replies "nah its just the engine name".

Some people have no idea what they're selling.

**Stav** · 20-04-2005, 12:23 AM

Train the designers more like it!!! Why cant aussie cars be as good as bmw or mercedes?Who the crap are they.Or have Australians lost faith in themselves?I hope not!!

dxr88u · 20-04-2005, 12:35 AM

never really owned an auto ford but i know when it comes to manuals get rid of the

driveline backlash at low speeds, that really ticks me off. and do what ever it takes to

keep a better resale value so us the buyers don't keep throwing wads of money

down the toilet at trade in time.

stockstandard · 20-04-2005, 12:37 AM

I am pretty happy with all the fords I have owned. Some design flaws like XF door handle have ****ed me off, but they have always been reliable for me where it counts

10:1 AFR - This only happens at wide open throttle which cars spend little of there time at. You dont get a hell of a lot of more power by "fixing" this with a more aggressive tune, and what happens when you then run that car on a 40 deg day with the air con on and a crap tank of fuel. Ford would get a worse reputation from having standard production cars that ping under load on hot days than for having a safe tune.

Interior plastics that rattle - I think that is more of a case of the shithouse roads we drive on

RED_EL_XR8 · 20-04-2005, 08:35 PM

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How about a decent mobile phone holder for the ba?

Yeah how about it!!! Am still waiting on the next one!!!!

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