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15-02-2019, 11:05 PM | #631 | |||
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16-02-2019, 10:02 AM | #633 | |||
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Honda is way more interesting if I was to go Japanese built and Subey's too I like more than Toyota . One other brand that I like from the red sun land is Mazda ..Very nice indeed and I really like their mid size cars especially . Some Mitsy stuff isn't too bad but Toyota is no interest at all to me . Lots of people would disagree for sure . Fair enough too .. Now that the local car industry has gone I reckon the huge rise in Korean quality and range to rival the Japanese is a new battle and something that former loyal Ford and Holden buyers are looking toward more and more. The VF Commodore has proven to be a beaut car and the owners I know (a few) love them . Don't know anything much about any other Holden badged car so not fair to comment except that the Commodore ZB owner I spoke to at work a few months back was really enjoying his as I mentioned in another post at the time. It was the station wagon . Praying the Holden identity is not completely lost to history over time whoever ends up owning it or providing vehicles . It'd be devastating for a loyal core of fans that love the red lion brand to lose that link forever . Last edited by roddy1960; 16-02-2019 at 10:13 AM. |
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16-02-2019, 10:20 AM | #634 | ||
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A mate has a Calais and he loves it, been a Holden man his whole life, retired Cop from SA so he's driven a few over the years and said it's the best built Commodore hes ever driven.
Only negative was being as sedan as at his age and coming from a Captiva he forgot how hard it was to get in and out of them. |
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16-02-2019, 10:28 AM | #635 | |||
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16-02-2019, 10:32 AM | #636 | ||
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16-02-2019, 10:51 AM | #637 | ||
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16-02-2019, 01:17 PM | #641 | |||
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Prior to about 2005, Holden used to have input into the design and specs of imports. ( The XC Barina had a major redesign to accommodate aircon and auto .) And, supposedly the V6 ZB was due to Holden's work. Holden has shafted Australian taxpayers, broken promises ( where are all the new models by 2020 ), and reduced choice. Loyal buyers remember that, and will not forgive GM. Current Holden buyers are just cross shopping with other brands for the best $$$ deal. |
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16-02-2019, 01:19 PM | #642 | ||
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Anybody remember these little nippers from the seventies ....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X5tGnL5Rllo .. I got my licence in 1978 and bought a 1969 Morris Mini ..In 1980 I got whacked by a truck and the cost of repair wasn't worth it . Saved a few bob so I bought a Ford Escort L ...hence my loyalty to the blue oval began although briefly I owned a troublesome VC Commodore ,til I traded to an XE Falcon . The Gemini was a popular car and I always have a soft spot for them and the Ford Escort of course.. Hey Ira , You're forgetting when Holden were really Holden ...That's my point ...There's a lot of people out there that would love to see that Holden time not be forgotten or dismissed.. Don't take it totally out of context please because Holden haven't always been in the mess they are now. Far from it . Last edited by roddy1960; 16-02-2019 at 01:33 PM. |
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16-02-2019, 04:27 PM | #643 | ||
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^^^^ Maybe I took your post the wrong way. Holden ceased to be on 21 Oct 2017.
It is now in the same category as Leyland, Rambler, Pontiac, Studebaker etc etc…. just a memory of what was. Even if GM sells it to Inchcape, or Geely, or Mahindra, or whoever, the badge and the name mean nothing now, except as a point of amusement to Australian Fordophiles. But, again, if I was in the market for a new vehicle, there is nothing in the Aus Ford range either that makes me want to walk inside a dealership and take a test drive. |
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16-02-2019, 05:41 PM | #644 | |||
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Ford too doesn't hold quite the same fascination either since Falcon ceased in 2016 . Looks like Ford will be focussing (no pun intended) more on the SUV and sport/work utility market now and that's not for me , although a Mustang might be on the cards when i finish work in about 6 years time . The Holden fans must be disappointed by a lot of the current fare and other than the HSV Camaro the V8 crew have been wiped like a dirty bum if you want a GM sporty orientated car that's a little different to the stock vehicles. Ford have made some mistakes or decisions that some of us don't like but at least the RHD factory Mustang at a decently affordable price is not one of them . I bet there's a lot of SS's , Clubsports , GTS's ,later model Monaro's etc etc...that'll be kept on the road a lot longer and cherished and even some other Aussie built Holdens across decades . You're right , Holden really ceased as we knew it in 2017 when manufacturing did . The recent past sales falls have proven that beyond doubt . Really sad . Last edited by roddy1960; 16-02-2019 at 05:49 PM. |
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16-02-2019, 06:04 PM | #645 | ||
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Ford, nor Holden, have a single new vehicle i would spend my money on...ill keep my FG xr6 T and my 300c for a few more years yet....when i do sell, ill go FGX and/or newer 300C....absolutely cant stand the mustang....well, not enough to buy one anyway....In my mind, Ford and Holden dont really exist anymore....
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16-02-2019, 06:10 PM | #646 | ||
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I live near the old Elizabeth plant. Its pretty sad to drive past it.
The general feeling around here is that the pampered workforce didn't do themselves any favours. I don't know what really happened but the holden sign is gone and now the place looks weird. |
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16-02-2019, 08:08 PM | #647 | ||
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Also looking at either brand, nothing really appeals to make me want to buy it new.
Used cars however, there is some great Aussie metal at appealing prices still out there for now.
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16-02-2019, 08:30 PM | #648 | |||
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Holden have been their major sponsor for as long as i can remember, well before they sponsored that equally toothless rabble down in Collingwood. If he got out in 1 piece it would be considered a successful campaign.. It was a joke, hence the evil laugh, though it would make for solid half time entertainment and im prepared to stand behind the $50 for that alone. |
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16-02-2019, 08:36 PM | #649 | |||
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Cue the discounting comments. |
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16-02-2019, 08:56 PM | #650 | |||
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Ford can't offload Ford. They are all one and the same. Having said that, Ford could decide to stop selling cars in Australia (unlikely), but Ford would still exist as a brand. Holden, if unwanted by its parent company, are unlikely to be snapped up by any other importer, so could very possibly be consigned to the history books. as for the $50... geez, I thought I was tight.
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16-02-2019, 09:17 PM | #651 | |||
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They going to park Hilux in front of Holden dealerships and blow white smoke at potential customers?
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16-02-2019, 09:36 PM | #653 | |||
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16-02-2019, 09:44 PM | #654 | ||
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I have been a solid Ford person for many many years. Grew up in a Ford family and loved the motorsport rivalry with Holden and hated them like an opposing footy team. However, that love for Ford was based on passion for sport and entertainment or family and friends interest.
No true Ford or Holden fan would actually wish the demise of the other company. Every Australian had a vested interest once in the success of our car companies. Those days are gone. It seems childish to argue whether the Holden name will disappear, Ford Australia has disappeared as well. It is just semantics.
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16-02-2019, 10:01 PM | #655 | |||
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16-02-2019, 10:08 PM | #656 | |||
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Ford Australia is also dead. They both died in 2016/17. Both companies are just 'marketing' as you say. We are just outposts on their spreadsheets.
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there doesn't need to be any malice or any sort of competition. Its simply looking at the situation at hand and asking the question, which is very valid. It has nothing to do with Ford, and in light of some recent announcements and rumours, the question asked has become very real.
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17-02-2019, 08:48 AM | #659 | ||
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What do you make of this from 45 years ago...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UaI0BjaFoTI Ol' Pete is rather scathing on this and some points on lack of genuine effort might well be true .. Maybe it contributed to a degree to the demise of Holden and Ford in Australia . There were a bunch of reasons I guess but when he said that it's the car that Holden told us we needed , rather than the car that the buyers demanded it probably rings true , especially in the latter years of manufacturing here in OZ. Holden and Ford were always beholdin' to big brother I guess and relied on the good will of the parent company to shell out R&D but maybe a certain laziness in using the money to build vehicles that were more to the global trend or fashion was a contribution to closure of us building our own . That and dozens of other internal and external reasons ...Moot point now . Last edited by roddy1960; 17-02-2019 at 08:58 AM. |
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Here's one of Holden's better offerings from the mid 70's ..
LH Torana ...A friend owned one of these . I travelled with him a few times to golf and such and it was a nice car . It was also about 10 years old at the time in the mid 80's..He had it for years and sold it to buy a VH Commodore but he always loved his LH. It was a mint green colour with a vinyl white roof. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WKu9ID8231w .. anybody here owned one of these .. |
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