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The ZB Commodore has NOTHING Australian - not even the Holden badges. Fail.
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Apologies, my post above wasn't meant as a snipe at you, it was a commentary on the creative accountancy at work with most motor corporations, they are masters at moving money around. I certainly hope that Holden survives all of this, they have had a horrid two years and are still swinging away trying to sell vehicles. |
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When they can no longer source the Opal. Commodore will stop altogether
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Like Ford did with the Falcon name, Holden should have also dropped the Commodore name and called the Opel what it was either Insignia or whatever else. Trying to pass this Euro FWD frog off as a replacement for the former aussie built RWD Commodore really peed their faithful off and subsequently determined their future. |
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I think the AWD V6 commodore is a great car.
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Blaming it on a badge is silly.
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BLUE OVAL INC.
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It might prevent some 'Commodore' buyers from buying another Commodore, but I doubt a Holden fan who wants a dual cab would dismiss the Colorado because of the badge on the Commodore. When I was looking at buying my Kia I cross shopped the Barina on price, at no point in time did I even consider what they'd done with the Commodore as a reason to avoid the Holden brand, I just preferred the Kia. But it makes for a good story on a Ford forum... |
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Holden already knew what the score would’ve been had it not changed Insignia for ZB Commodore as it was already selling Insignia alongside the VFII. Anyone thinking that Insignia sold under its real name would challenge Camry for sales is ignoring recent history and Holden’s higher prices.
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Dealerships are closing because for decades there have been substantially more Holden dealerships around the country than any other brand. It wasn't sustainable. Now the number of Holden dealerships will be similar to most other mainstream brands.
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big flash new Holden dealership going up here in Mildura...
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Metro Holden in Adelaide are in the process of building fancy new premises also.
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right, lets get this thread back on track.
I believe Holden only sold less than 40 commodores the private buyers. The rest of the numbers were fleet. Thank goodness theyve got the Colorado is all im saying |
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Holden needs to cull the dealer network asap some tough times in for these dealers yet. I reckon half would do fine.
And Ford need to get serious too if the bubble pops on the Ranger then they are in Holdens shoes asap. 1 trick pony is a very bad idea.
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They sold their CBD premises ( which were very old and hard to modernise) for the green fields site. There is also another planned for salisbury (prob Mawson lakes), at the time Metro and Peter page were offered it without any guarantees on keeping the dealer liscence.
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The whole idea behind dismantling the local car industry was to end import quotas and taxes and assistance to local manufacturers. The goal was to give local buyers cheaper vehicles. Gotta wonder if prices will now start edging up as importers think about cutting a few base models.
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Holden should be taken out the back and shot now. GM have milked it for all its worth it certainly isn't Australian good on ya grandpa you gave all our money to some septic tank corpo.
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unlike ford...
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Can we please stay on topic and leave ancestry for another thread.
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Rob
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the issue I see for Holden is that they don't actually manufacturer cars anymore. If for some reason GM decide to offload the brand, which is just a name only, then that would spell big trouble. They need to be affiliated with a manufacturer but i'm not sure there are any other manufacturers out there that would want to sell their products under the Holden moniker instead of their own. Opel is one I can think of that may be interested in using Holden as their importer.
So the future of holden really has nothing to do with commodore as its not a GM product anymore. The future of holden relies on the GM products doing well to keep GM invested in the country.
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Well We're definitely spoilt for Choice in regards car Brands, However when comparing prices of Similar Models overseas, I think we're getting Shafted when It Comes to the Price We pay..(even after factoring Exchange rates, Shipping ect) |
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You can't whine about dealerships closing down and then complain that cars are too expensive. While the two things may not be absolutely linked there is a relation. Dealerships have costs, just like any business. Rent, utilities, wages, insurance etc etc. I believe even some floor stock needs to be bought by the dealerships.
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