QLD Election - Page 3

04redxr8 · 25-03-2012, 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by csv8

Unfotunately she just won her seat..You need 10 members in Parliament to be called a political party..Labor have 7...

Sorry if it seems a dumb question, but what happens to the labour party if they dont get the 10 seats?

**cs123** · 25-03-2012, 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by 04redxr8

Sorry if it seems a dumb question, but what happens to the labour party if they dont get the 10 seats?

They don't get the funding and resource of a political party in parliment. This has happened before with the libs but the ALP allowed then to retain party status.

**GasoLane** · 25-03-2012, 07:57 PM

Regardless of who won is it a good thing to have the one party getting 70 seats with the nearest other party only getting 7.

Does make for a Democracy or a Dictatorship?

atec77 · 25-03-2012, 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by GasOLane

Regardless of who won is it a good thing to have the one party getting 70 seats with the nearest other party only getting 7.

Does make for a Democracy or a Dictatorship?

Such a land slide is bad , however if things get out of hand the problem can be addressed , I hop the libs allow labor to have access to funding

TheSneakiness · 25-03-2012, 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by atec77

Such a land slide is bad , however if things get out of hand the problem can be addressed , I hop the libs allow labor to have access to funding

Word is Campbell has done that.

Big result, I think of the saying absolute power corrupts absolutely so lets see how Campbell does this first term.

cheap · 25-03-2012, 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Rambunctious

According to the ousted Labour Treasurer Andrew Fraser, our debt is $85 Billion, I believe it is 2 to 3 times that, I hope I am wrong.

Elections bring out the 'best' don't they. We hardly ever see our local member and then like magic he appears, pressing flesh, concerned and generally trying to be normal.

We had Andrew Fraser sitting with us at the local school parent and teacher meeting, our treasurer got up, cleared her throat, looked around and announced that the school's budget was in surplus by many many thousands of dollars! Much laughter ensued, I'm sure Fraser got the message.

cheap · 25-03-2012, 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by atec77

Such a land slide is bad , however if things get out of hand the problem can be addressed , I hop the libs allow labor to have access to funding

There is a gentleman's agreement between the two major parties and Labor will be considered the opposition, not that that means very much. For example Katter's party are not in opposition, and his MP's are entitled to an office, basic office facilities and one office assistant.

Being in opposition entitles two office assistants.

The real problem for Labor is that with 6-7 MP's they'll be trying to cover 18-20 portfolios and with such few people, it is simply impossible for their MP's to be fully across 3-4 portfolios.

What do you mean by "if thing get out of hand the problem can be addressed", in my opinion Queensland will at a minimum have an LNP government for the next 12 years (2024).

Cúl-Báire · 25-03-2012, 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by GasOLane

Does make for a Democracy or a Dictatorship?

Elective Dictatorship would be fairly close to the correct term.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elective_dictatorship

**Burnout** · 25-03-2012, 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by GasOLane

Regardless of who won is it a good thing to have the one party getting 70 seats with the nearest other party only getting 7.

Does make for a Democracy or a Dictatorship?

Consider, for a moment, a state where there is no Upper house, do you need one more seat than the other party to make it a Democracy or is it a Dictatorship?

atec77 · 26-03-2012, 12:07 AM

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Originally Posted by cheap

There is a gentleman's agreement between the two major parties and Labor will be considered the opposition, not that that means very much. For example Katter's party are not in opposition, and his MP's are entitled to an office, basic office facilities and one office assistant.

Being in opposition entitles two office assistants.

The real problem for Labor is that with 6-7 MP's they'll be trying to cover 18-20 portfolios and with such few people, it is simply impossible for their MP's to be fully across 3-4 portfolios.

What do you mean by "if thing get out of hand the problem can be addressed", in my opinion Queensland will at a minimum have an LNP government for the next 12 years (2024).

With the amount of direct interaction these days amongst the public in a few short years the next election could easily swing another way reducing the advantage but I expect Cam will do the right thing and encourage the part to behave , it might take three elections before labor has a chance at the brass ring again , I doubt the cowboys party will last much longer after the demonstration of bad bratt behaviour is something of a guide as exampled Saturday night
Of course we might all be wrong but I don't think so

Mickxr8 · 26-03-2012, 03:13 AM

Will still keep looking for the `D:none of the above` option next time I have to waste 1/2 a day trying to do a 3 sec job.
Our state election will prob come up soon , my mailbox will let me know lol,
Just remember `red` who`s running the big game atm wasn`t put there by voters ? , bear this in mind if your thinking about `donkey voting` .

Keepleft · 26-03-2012, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by atec77

Such a land slide is bad , however if things get out of hand the problem can be addressed , I hop the libs allow labor to have access to funding

Those rules were a Labor invention. (SkyNews election night). Play by the rules and why should Labor alone get the funding, it has lost party status, under their own terms in QLD? Besides, it has its union comrade to bleed off, other parties and independents do not.

Labor policies got the result they well and truely deserved, a party of dumb and dangerous. If QLD LNP mess up the same thing will happen to them. QLD is place place where no seat is 'safe'.

damoose · 26-03-2012, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by cheap

There is a gentleman's agreement between the two major parties and Labor will be considered the opposition, not that that means very much. For example Katter's party are not in opposition, and his MP's are entitled to an office, basic office facilities and one office assistant.

Being in opposition entitles two office assistants.

The real problem for Labor is that with 6-7 MP's they'll be trying to cover 18-20 portfolios and with such few people, it is simply impossible for their MP's to be fully across 3-4 portfolios.

What do you mean by "if thing get out of hand the problem can be addressed", in my opinion Queensland will at a minimum have an LNP government for the next 12 years (2024).

Very well said , Unfortunately to have good Goverment you need very good opposition and with a house so badly lobsided as this thats just not gonna happen..

nstg8a · 26-03-2012, 05:13 PM

so first its bad when theyre in power, now its bad theyre wiped out? you guys confuse me lol...

flappist · 26-03-2012, 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by damoose

Very well said , Unfortunately to have good Goverment you need very good opposition and with a house so badly lobsided as this thats just not gonna happen..

It does not matter whether there is a majory of 3 or 33 in QLD we do not have an upper house.

The major ADVANTAGE in this current situation is that there will be a greater distribution of funds outside Brisbane as most of regional QLD has been neglected for 20 years.

Over the years there have been MANY highly one sided parliaments with in excess of 2/3 and up to 3/4 of seats in QLD but this is the first one for this side of politics. It is strange that the previous were not "bad".......

The Monty · 26-03-2012, 06:53 PM

Its probably better to be so lopsided, as at least all 70whatever seat will get good funding, other than the 45 that would have been if it were more even, with two parties that are close together.
As we dont have an upper house, it doesnt matter how many more each one have, as its only the majority that will be able to pass new laws, without the need to get it through the Senate. Its obviously different in other states.

XD 351 Ute · 26-03-2012, 07:28 PM

This may or may not be the right place, but the first thing I'd like the new Government to do for me is keep all rego's the same. Why should us ute drivers, (along with bikes and trucks) pay more?

The whole system is dodgy anyway, a 4 cylinder car uses no more road than an 8 cylinder one...
People wanted change, then change this for starters!

Ed

flappist · 26-03-2012, 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by XD 351 Ute

This may or may not be the right place, but the first thing I'd like the new Government to do for me is keep all rego's the same. Why should us ute drivers, (along with bikes and trucks) pay more?

The whole system is dodgy anyway, a 4 cylinder car uses no more road than an 8 cylinder one...
People wanted change, then change this for starters!

Ed

Actually that is a GREAT idea.

For cars go on weight, 0-1500kg, 1501 to 2000kg, 2001++
All bikes the same.

Weight is the thing that caused the damage not number of cylinders. Weight used would be manufacturers kerb weight to make it easy to calculate and there would be a list of "fat cars" and "skinny cars".

nstg8a · 26-03-2012, 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by flappist

Actually that is a GREAT idea.

For cars go on weight, 0-1500kg, 1501 to 2000kg, 2001++
All bikes the same.

Weight is the thing that caused the damage not number of cylinders. Weight used would be manufacturers kerb weight to make it easy to calculate and there would be a list of "fat cars" and "skinny cars".

i own a fat car, so im against it lol...

i dont get why not just one flat rate for all car regos, then give concessions for things like hybrids, low emissions, low fuel consumption, awesomeness etc etc...

**buggerlugs** · 26-03-2012, 09:26 PM

Won't be long and we'll have a tunnel from Brisvegas to the Sunny Coast............

04redxr8 · 26-03-2012, 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by buggerlugs

Won't be long and we'll have a tunnel from Brisvegas to the Sunny Coast............

Isn't that what they're digging at Lutwyche? The start of it.

The Monty · 26-03-2012, 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by buggerlugs

Won't be long and we'll have a tunnel from Brisvegas to the Sunny Coast............

Id rather have a dissused tunnel NOW, then NEED a tunnel in 15 years, and need to wait 2 years for it to be built....
Same thing that just happened with the gateway, it needed to be upgraded ASAP as Brisbane had outgrown it, yet once they started, it was 4 years of roadworks and disruptions till it was finished.

**ebxr8240** · 26-03-2012, 10:11 PM

What does Q ALP and a Tarago have in common ???
The Tarago has more seats...

TC200six · 26-03-2012, 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by ebxr8240

What does Q ALP and a Tarago have in common ???
The Tarago has more seats...

Haha, Similar joke to what I saw on TV, except with a Tarago instead of a Kia Carnival.

We know that next election Labor won't be using another campaign bus like they did before this election, but instead a Toyota Tarago because it might be the only vehicle they can fill.

glavas · 27-03-2012, 01:52 AM

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Originally Posted by ebxr8240

What does Q ALP and a Tarago have in common ???
The Tarago has more seats...

Call me crazy but i can not get my head around that joke. If the tarago has more seats then the alp then what would they have in common as one has more than the other????? Meaning they have nothing in common???

**Linz** · 27-03-2012, 02:00 AM

The original joke was something like this...
Q. What's the difference between the QLD ALP and a Tarago?
A. On Sunday morning, the Tarago will STILL have eight seats.

**DJR-351** · 27-03-2012, 07:36 AM

That wasn't an election, that was a bloodless Coup d'état.....

TC200six · 27-03-2012, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by csv8

Cartoons don't take long..

I was waiting to see what Leahy's take on the Labor defeat would be

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Originally Posted by glavas

Call me crazy but i can not get my head around that joke. If the tarago has more seats then the alp then what would they have in common as one has more than the other????? Meaning they have nothing in common???

I think he meant to say, "what's the difference" rather than "have in common".

cheap · 27-03-2012, 11:16 PM

Just heard, Anna Bligh's election bus is for sale <going cheap>

Its wheels fell off and it has no seats !

GK · 27-03-2012, 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by GhiaEB

Anna Bligh just announced her resignation from politics, forcing a By-election. That is down right rude. Such a waste of time and money. I feel for the people who now have to vote again.

Some might see it as a good thing, her letting the buck stop with her and taking accountability for the loss.

I agree that the expense is frustrating though.

GK