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We don't have enough tax payers in the country which is why they want indians and chinese and any other silly bugger that wants to live here move in.
Look at the sixze of the UK and its population compared to here. The one thing I think is they should stop the big companies in this country from paying F all tax, might help a bit. I don't know anymore, its ad that this country has become a capitalist, finger pointing dobbing bunch of people who once stood proud of who they were and what they fought for.
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By joves their old chap. I think your onto somthing here, hehe Dead right mate. and in my experiance of the last 20 years driving all over this big country in a car or 4x4 its the driving faster that keeps the brain more active. Now having said that I do still stop every two hours and I was responsible enough to drive to conditions
I am 45 now and when I drive long hauls at the speed limit I am sleepy pretty much within a couple of hours but if I can sneak some speeding into the trip here and there it places a bit of interest and alertness into the job of driving. I have micro slept many times and its only when I do the 100 k limit. I will either pull over or speed up at the first hint of it but its hard driving long ways. You would wonder how truckies do it but a truck is not a car that is quiet and smooth. Quote:
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Some of you must think we are stupid, but no one on hear actually has said that speed is the cause of deaths. They do cause accidents, but its not the major contributor. (Intersections are)
However, all the winging is about us and everyone else having to pay a fine or two because you got done doing 65 in a 60 zone. Well suck it. Rules are rules. If the law says you have to walk around holing your crotch and you get fined for not doing it, thats your problem. If you don't like the rules here, go move to another country. Oh thats right, you won't because that cost MORE money than what you'll ever pay in speeding fines. Get a grip people, its just a tax, one that targets people who are asleep behind the wheel. Don't speed and your fine, open your eyes and your fine. Stop being so scared on having to spend money, if they didn't use this as a source of revenue you can bet it would just come from another source. (Increasing REGO 17% maybe...) |
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YOOT, do you even think before you post?
you contradict everything you say, 'dont speed' next sentance 'I pay it just as a tax becuase its cheeper than the overall cost of a car' IM NOT COMPLAINING BECUASE I GOT DONE!! how HARD is that to understand? what I am saying and rightly so is that it WONT save lifes. What moron just likes to give away their hard earnt becuase its just another tax? id accept it more if they said that 1/3 of your wage was just pure revenue for the government coffers. Your entire arguement has turned from 'it saves lives' to just give your money to the goverment because they deserve it... I think you need help. your avatar says it all... not just a turbo , just purely a .
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Oh you sad person you, so its you that passes someone on the road with out breaking the speed limit and taking for ever and probably endanouring others,
Mate I won't hold my crutch because the law says so, I won't obey the speed limit when over taking I will do it as quickly as possible when it is safe to do so. Come on man, you!! get a grip. If you are happy with the way its going, haha you must be a politition, so yes we do think your stupid Quote:
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Honestly all of you, in about five days time this thread will will have gone quite. In five weeks you'll be bitching about the next road rule change that you should have been obeying since you got your license and in five months you will have forgoten about speed cameras al together.
Get a grip, there is a world out there to be enjoyed, don't get hung up on some words on an internet forum and carry one like I'm the wierd one. Relax. Like everything you will all get over it, and the cameras will still be there waiting for you to slip up. The sky is not falling in you bunch of pussies. |
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If only that was the case but unfortunatly its the attitude you seem to display that has landed this country on the path it is taking.
Seriously its like the cameras in melbournes Box hill area and all the people steped onto parliment and said enough is enough. There is too much of lay down like a mongrel dog and take it in this country. The Aussie public (like you) have become brain washed. Honestly, what makes you think it will be forgotten? its just beginning as far as I am concerned. Its not just a few words on the net, its in the papers, its on the tele, its in your bloody face every day you travel on the roads. The problem is escalating and the public will soon say enough is enough. You made me laugh when you said that if you don't like it go to another country, well a lot of peopl are doing just that and this country is fast becomming very unpopular to live. Quote:
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Not once has anyone complained about paying a fine. Not once has anyone whinged about being caught speeding. The point is that the government sees fit to tell you something that is clearly wrong and you are more than happy to sit back and lap it up. Nothing will ever change if people do not have an opinion. If only they were willing to listen to alternative thinking. You are very welcome to your opinion as well, but just make sure you have grasped the details of subject. Also you may not have noticed yet but Rego was just increased, by 20%!!!! If they openly said "look we may have overspent a bit, and we need to tax you some more" at least they would being honest and down the line with the people of this QLD. OF course nobody would be happy about it, but aleast Mr motorist is copping all the flak. Quote:
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I stand by comments, if you want an A - B car why bother with a forrester let alone the only car in the subaru line up with any character, buy a prius get a job with 'blight' *spelling was implied* and preach to the world how you will save them with camera's so far up their behind that it will be illegal to wipe with anything but paper that is government endorced so as not to give yourself a papercut... If you dont want to make the roads safer... thats fine I understand that all you want to do is dig a bigger hole on the interwebz and make your self look stupid, I have written to ministers, I have spoken to a spokesperson from RACQ motoring organisation, they are making a noise and looking at ways to lobby for a change.. trust me when I say IT WONT GO AWAY ;)
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Sorry but I thought this debate was going some where constructive, but you ruined it.
For the record, I will stay and fight for as long as I can Just to sum up what evryone has been trying to say to the likes of your self, Cameras in suburban streets is crap, why not a speed hump like every where esl but oh, its another cash cow lets do this instead. I see this as a no fix and still allowing people to get caught speeding in the streets while still having the opetunity to kill some ones child. So how fecking stupid do you think people are. you wake up!! can,t believe I still replying to you I will not be talking to you any more. Quote:
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or just implement speed bumps and roundabouts.......
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WHY create more variables when you could make a solution? i dont know if that "unmarked" car in my street would go down well.......... BT50 + snatch strap ..... UNR8D love the comment about anna bligh
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http://www.news.com.au/couriermail/s...19-952,00.html
Clearly if we all slow down we wont die.. yea because having knowledge and skill doesn't allow you to have a better outcome when everything goes pear shaped...
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think the writer was a noob either that or the editor of the CM was on holidays....
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We can argue till the cows come home or we go blue in the face holding our crutch but we will never come to a conclusion that we all agree to as to wether speed kills or not, that my friends is a matter for the statstical nerds to come up with. The simple fact of the matter is there is a government cash grab being displayed now in our suburban back streets and the government says its to stop speedsters and save a life or two. We all know this is and that a simple addition of speed humps and roundabouts would solve it.
So the questions are, (while we all sit on these web sites beating our chests) What can we can we do about it? Who wants to do something about it? and how are we going to do it? Its simple really, why not start the ball rolling by patitioning against the governments agenda.
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Some of you are such hot heads. Sorry I haven't replied, I did actually forget about this thread....
While I have been away I see the usual lot took an oportunity to have a unconstructive dig at my comments, well now its my turn: rancidpunx GT290 Ryan (UNR8D) What have you three done then about this issue of speed cameras?? Have you started a club? Apart from carrying on like 15 years olds (which I know you are NOT!) what input have you actually made. Because based on the rubbish you have contributed to this thread, the only thing that is clear is that you are deathly affraid of copping a fine or two!! that is the underlying concern of your rampaging BS! Not one of you gives a flying at a rolling donut about anybodies lives. NONE of your comments are directed at your concern for other peoples well being, or your own. Speed cameras may not be the answer but it will surely get you to slow dow when you see one. Stop being selfish, calm down, and focus on the topic. Speed cameras are coming in force to target people like you and me. You don't seem to be doing anything to stop them, and personaly the effort required just to make the government listen, would far outweigh the cost of getting caught. Either way, if your caught, you were doing the wrong thing, whether or not you can prove you were driving safe of not. Thats is the topic here, end of discussion. |
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I stand by my opinion. I drive a bright blue turbo ute, i still have all my points, and have never been pulled over for any traffic offences.
Speed does not kill, but the government says it does and as such will use it as an excuse to impede on the population freedom that little bit more. Just reading the "road rules" thread here has made it clear a lot of people have no idea what they are doing out whilst driving, and this is coming from car enthusiasts. Think about all those people who have no interest in driving and only as a method of A-B. My interest in saving lives extends to myself driving sensibly and smoothly for the conditions. I have also emailed the transport dept with my concerns. As yet all of them have gone unanswered. This has nothing to do with speed cameras, infact if you read through my posts you will see i am for them when used correctly. (Hidden is not a correct use and WILL NOT slow people down) i am not scared of a fine either. I have not had any to date, and thats not through luck or anything like that, but more to do with the fact i generally dont speed. But as i have stated before my concern is how long before other measures are bought forward "in the interest of saving lives" to impede on my freedom. I enjoy driving, its not a method of transport for me, but a hobby. I enjoy the other aspects of cars. Looking at them, taking them apart. But alot of that can be taken away "in the interest of saving lives". Let me put it this way, How would anyone like to have cameras in their homes, just incase you change an electrical socket without a qualified sparky, maybe you like to a have a abit of a smoke, theres a few people out there who like to beat their wives and kids. The same logic applys that the government is trying to save lives and this is the way to go about it. Extreme i know but its the point im trying to make. I fed up with being told things are for my own good and living in a world obsessed with health and safety.
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i`m not a big advocate for camera`s ........ but if slows down some of the ratbags i don`t mind them , i would love some camera`s around our neighborhood ,not for the driver who drifts over the limit by 5 or 10 k`s but for the one driveing at dangerouse speed, its sorta strange the main road nearest me has been the road that more drivers give their car or bike a squirt on for bloody years and years, although not many accidents occur on it these days, on the odd occasion a general duties will travel down here or we`ll get the odd booze bus maybe monthly or 2 monthly, but not often , i hear 160(in an 80 zone) kph speeds at least a couple of times a week, strangely in that 2/3 k stretch there`s no camera`s except at the main intersections at each end.
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If people believe a speed camera could be anywhere, wouldnt that make them more likely to drive within speed limit all the time, rather than create a new black spot? Flashing your lights is helping people slow down? disagree, allowing them to get booked/fined and perhaps get their licence cancelled will have a bigger effect on their long term behaviour. Road toll in Vic is the lowest since records began in 1952, vehicle traffic has increased ~10 fold since then, safer cars, maybe, but perhaps the change can also be attributed to law enforcement on speed and alcohol. |
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It's penny pinching but it is voluntary for the contributors.
I live in a suburb with lot's of Asians (mainly Vietnamese) and it is impossible to speed if you follow them.
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