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26-06-2009, 09:55 PM | #61 | ||
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A little of topic, but these fools went beyond moronic! On the Westgate freeway today about 2:30pm, traffic was flowing at 90-100kph, getting close to the ring road exit these two @#$%!@$#(insert swear-word here)driving a VW passat and I think the other was a Honda Integra, Entered the freeway from an on ramp, and proceeded to go through traffic(fast & furious style) at an easily estimated 160=kph even using the shoulder to get past cars, I was absolutuely dumbfounded. I just wish there had been an police car in the traffic somewhere. I don't scare easy when behind the wheel but as the went of in the distance I was just waiting for carnage because it seemed inevitable.
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Really, many of the schools I have seen are on two lane roads, some on 4 lane. Going past another slower car is not illegal if you have your own lane as that is not overtaking. If you are in the same lane and you overtake, that is illegal in a school zone.
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26-06-2009, 10:13 PM | #63 | ||
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This is why I miss my old Diesel Hilux. If someone was tailgating me I'd put the car in 5th (labouring) and plant the throttle. They'd soon be covered in a cloud of thick black diesel smoke, like a bush fire it was
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26-06-2009, 10:16 PM | #64 | |||
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F350 ambulances are pretty good at that too, nice big turbo diesel=lots of smoke :
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26-06-2009, 10:56 PM | #65 | ||
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i can't believe how many people feel it is their 'duty' to educate and teach fellow road users.
whatever happened to just driving. if someone is tailgating you it isn't your job to teach them a lesson. more often than not the lesson won't be grasped anyway. how hard is it to obey road rules. driving is a privilege. i don't care how others like to drive. i make sure (most times) that i'm doing the right thing. you'd be surprised how much less stressful driving is if you allow plenty of time for your journey as well. this isn't to say i drive with my head in the clouds. quite the opposite. |
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26-06-2009, 11:08 PM | #66 | ||
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I copped it the other day in an 80 zone on the highway (due to road works). I sat on cruise at 80 and this bogan WOMAN in a commodore (of course) was sitting on my tail waving her middle finger at me, tooting and trying to scream at me. I don't understand these people who think they can intimidate you and make you speed for them. I ended up slowing to 70 to teach her some patience.
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27-06-2009, 12:12 PM | #67 | ||
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I am quite right, driving badly or poorly, IS a *national pastime* here in Australia, and its all quite deliberate. We actually take delight in doing so and even admit it here.
I blame, in part, the removal of rural speed derestriction (//) and ongoing dumbing-down societal engineering programs adopted into the western developed countries like Australia, GB, USA, Canada, Germany. Seemingly 'soft' sentences for serious crime, immigration - that sees pressure on infrustructure and kinship, also manifests itself on the roads; - because its an easy way of showing others how ****ed off you are for whatever reason really. Explains in behavioral outcome why we simply ignore many a speed-limit (too many zones and 'low' settings), or ignore many a double-lined road and overtake regardless, sometimes ignore STOP signs, or why we switch on front fogs in clear weather, use indicators sparingly, sit too-close - but not necessarily taillgate, weave, leave the kerbside without notice/indicator etc. We deliberately play 'block' on major freeway/motorway roads simply to watch passing traffic then weave into the left-lane and right-lane simultaneously to overtake. We might even use tow a trailer as the excuse, just in case. You name it - driving badly is Aussie-to-a-core, it is a normal behaviour here. And the screws keep on tightening, making it worse . . . .
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27-06-2009, 03:33 PM | #68 | |||
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You do know are Cancer Causing agents in Diesel Fumes/ smoke etc The reason maybe Diesel Drivers are Tailgated is because they are so Damm slow to get off the line, Drive slow in general & yes Blow Smoke which you think is Funny but makes the drivers behind you want to pass you as soon as they can & cranky as well. Does not overly bother me anymore with my Charcoal Filter & vent closed to incoming air which I always do now as soon as I come up behind a Hilux Diesel driver. That you do it & think it is funny is an amazing act if Rudeness on your part & you know that person you think is Tailgating may not even know he or she is doing it, my Wife drives pretty close but she never would do it in anger or Tailgate (I would & Do) |
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27-06-2009, 03:42 PM | #69 | |||
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But to do 30 kmh in a 40 zone which should not be 40 at the time because nobody is working on the road & roadworks or grass cutting has not affected the road in any way in a safety sense is just Nuts & yes ****es me off no end! So I am mostly not in a hurry & patient until a situation is just wrong. What gives the driver in front of me who is going so very slow the right to hold up myself & 20 cars behind me, is he Kevin Rudd? See if we have 1 slow driver his rights do not come close to the 20 drivers behind him he is slowing up to a crawl & you know why, he is 1 & we would be 21 : |
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27-06-2009, 03:46 PM | #70 | |||
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hah.. funny that, i actually thought most drove ok over here.. if you want bad driving you should try NZ.. its horrific, i remember when i was younger being over taken by a torana when doing around 130 who cut me off when another car came round the corner then his dumb missus gave me the finger.. NO one lets you in anywhere, courtesy in non existent there.. all though nobody runs orange lights like they do here
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But if you really want to go there then *hypothetically* if I was inclined to be a kent and cut you off+ anchors then id wait for a safer area probably a 60 zone with few witnesses. Like you said, its tough to prove that you werent at fault when you are the one with front damage in a collision. Quote:
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Youre right, braking distance for a car travelling at 60kmh IS shorter than for a car at 40kmh, using this "how-long-is-a-piece-of-string" logic maybe its time everyone manned up, and finally dropped the speed limit to 20kmh to save even more lives. Ive been there and had a a kid run out from behind a parked car in a car park at car park speeds (try saying that out aloud) and I had no chance of stopping in time, luckily their friend pulled them back when they were centimetres from my bumper. A better solution would be to install a barrier or even better, a leash : ANd besides, any kid that spends their time running out onto a road without looking probably isnt going to last long on this world regardless... :evil3: |
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27-06-2009, 07:00 PM | #72 | |||
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- Even on several main roads around me, the speed limits vary from 60,70 and 80 almost at random on the one road. I can guarantee you that I've driven 20km/h under the speed limit at some places, granny style. - It's very easy to miss a speed sign on a multi-lane highway with a truck, van or 4WD to your left blocking your view. They change the speed so frequently, that it's a fact of life that you will miss one. I wondered why everyone was dawdling along recently in a 70 zone, and only figured it out when I saw the "End School Zone" sign. Lucky there were cars in front of me which prevented me from going 70. - While most of the 'off main' streets are 50, there are plenty of streets, some even 4 lanes!, that are going to 50 as well. Why the hell bother? - There's a couple of roads I travel that have bushes/trees that hide the 40km/h start of school zones signs. I've had people driving on my *** and I guarantee they didn't see them. I guess I just try to be patient. If there's an ahole following too close, then I'm happy to move out of the way so they can get as far away from me as possible if I can safely do so. If not, I'll give a couple of taps on the brakes without actually slowing down. Most times, they get the message and back off. qs PS: I am also very proud that I survived my time as a kid when the speed limit was 60 on all streets :-D |
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27-06-2009, 07:18 PM | #73 | ||
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[QUOTE=XW_GS]Really!!
i still see it happening, aggresive (mostly tradies) verbally abusing law abiding citizens trying, to do the safe thing by sticking to the 40kph limit during school times protecting our children, MY CHILRDEN. The other day i saw this aggressive a/hole harrassing an older couple on Stephensons road Mt Waverley cause they where doing the RIGHT thing. In school zones, do the right thing. If I have some ( insert expletive deleted ) tailgating me in those areas, I make a point of lowering all 3 mirrors. What are they going to do..ram you ?? Steve |
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As for the how long is a piece of string, that is a question that has no set answer. I was trying to demonstrate the differences in braking distance and therefore the effect of different speeding limits in high risk zones such as school zones. This is a set effect that is predictable as a matter of physics, double the amount of speed requires quadruple the distance to stop. A Veyron with 400mm, 8 spot ceramic brakes will still take four times the distance to stop from double the speed, it does not change. Quote:
Thats enough from me, I get bored talking to deaf ears very easily.
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27-06-2009, 08:08 PM | #75 | |||
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its a shame that there are those out there so focused on themselves that they can't see the bigger picture. heaven forbid if someone is held up and reach their destination 30sec later. even if its 5min would it really matter. people constantly refer back to how it used to be. well things change. its a fact of life. there is also a lot more people and cars around these days. the govt also know that people will always 'creep' over the speed limit. they know that in a 60 zone, a fair % of people will be doing closer to 65-70. they need to draw a line somewhere and 40 seems to be it for now. as for roadworks, it only takes one idiot to fly though and run out of talent, and ruin someones life. in S.A. we still get 25km/h for roadworks. rules are set to allow for the lowest denominator. they can't have a rule for one and another for someone else. a lot of the time the people that tailgate and appear 'on a mission' are not even aware they are doing it or annoying others as they are in their own little world. |
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27-06-2009, 08:21 PM | #76 | |||
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Thanks, the thing is there are only so many times you can hit your head on a brick wall before it begins to give you a headache. Closing thought, it is not hard to see where the ridiculous speed limits have come from when you look at some of the attitudes here.
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27-06-2009, 08:36 PM | #77 | |||
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You're happy to do 20 under in one instance but protest at 10 under and have the driver put in stocks for holding up 20 others in another. That makes absolutely no sense to me. Their rights on the road are to travel at or under the posted speed limit in a manner deemed safe by them - not you. If that happens to be a little slower than you and 20 other motorists behind them, tough. |
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27-06-2009, 10:33 PM | #80 | |||
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If someone is enjoying a "Sunday drive" with their family, and doing 40 in a 60 zone to look at the scenery, it may be selfish of them and anoying and frustraiting to you, but it's their right. And it's not your right to abuse them or tailgate. If you do then YOU are breaking the law.
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(1) No person shall drive a motor vehicle at such a slow speed as to impede the normal and reasonable movement of traffic except when reduced speed is necessary for safe operation or in compliance with law: PROVIDED, That a person following a vehicle driving at less than the legal maximum speed and desiring to pass such vehicle may exceed the speed limit, subject to the provisions of RTA 46.61.120 on highways having only one lane of traffic in each direction, at only such a speed and for only such a distance as is necessary to complete the pass with a reasonable margin of safety.
(2) Whenever the secretary of transportation or local authorities within their respective jurisdictions determine on the basis of an engineering and traffic investigation that slow speeds on any part of a highway unreasonably impede the normal movement of traffic, the secretary or such local authority may determine and declare a minimum speed limit thereat which shall be effective when appropriate signs giving notice thereof are erected. No person shall drive a vehicle slower than such minimum speed limit extract rta nsw
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28-06-2009, 12:29 AM | #83 | ||
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unfortunatly the law is the same as keep left unless overtaking, never been inforced!!
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28-06-2009, 07:26 AM | #84 | |||
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If there is ample room for them to let vehicles behind pass, I have no problem with people sight seeing at a slow speed from their car. I've slowed under the speed limit to allow passengers to see something in particular from the car, I'm sure we've all done it at some stage but I wouldn't do it if I was impeding someone behind me. As for being booked for it, if you're impeding traffic significantly, ie doing 30 in a 60, there's a possibility you will if you get spotted. I've only ever seen that law trotted out for staying in an overtaking lane travelling well under the posted limit with no reasonable excuse. |
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If you dont like people sitting up your ***..... come drive in canberra......
Does not matter if im in my 6 or my 8... my rear end must smell like roses, because everyone wants to be up it. Does not matter if its Grandma in a ford Laser , or bob the business man in his Holden, or even the builders in their trucks, an 80 or 100 sign, is 20km slower than they all want to drive.
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28-06-2009, 09:21 AM | #87 | ||
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no red light's in A.C.T. either!
well they havent noticed them.
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Oh theres lots of red lights......... Orange means go faster though, didn't you know that?
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