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Nothing stays standard !!
Join Date: Apr 2007
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I doubt you are getting 12.5km per litre, I'm guessing you meant 12.5L/100. |
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Lucky, lucky bastard!
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Join Date: Dec 2004
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If the price of fuel really concerns you, by all means alter your driving habits a bit and see what happens. And if it REALLY concerns you, you should be driving a car you can afford to run and thus drive it the way you want to. Me, I couldn't care less about the price I pay at the pumps. An LPG conversion fixed that one! Far better option (for me, anyway) than not running a big old V8 every single day of the week. Anyway, it's just not the same if they can't hear you in the next suburb. ![]()
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I've had a couple of V12 Jags over the years and I DIDN'T buy them for their fuel economy ![]() (20L/100k If I was really carefull...35L/100k if I wanted to have fun ![]()
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Lucky, lucky bastard!
Join Date: May 2007
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Well sure, but we aren't just talking about old school V8's, which are not the norm (no pun intended Norm ![]() There are good, high-tech V8's out there (including the incoming Coyote) returning really good fuel economy + good power, which is the desire of the modern consumer. And rightly so. The 'if you are worried about fuel dont by a V8' saying is old rhetoric and wont stand up in court these days. GM & Chrysler have been caught out by this old style of thinking due to a lack of understanding of what a modern consumer demands out of a vehicle/engine. Thats my take on things anyway.
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Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: SE Vic
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I generally change gears by 2000rpm anyway, it's not really my choice since I have an auto. The 3V has enough low down torque to get me quickly to speed before hitting 2000rpm. Still, giving it the occasional 3000+ rpm squirt is fun. But since I fuel it with bbq gas it only costs me 30 bucks a week to do 350kms anyway. At that price who cares ![]() As far as driving smoothly goes, lifting off the throttle well before stopping if I know it's coming, smooth light throttle inputs etc, this is how I have always driven and just assumed it was how most people drive.
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Barra Turbo > V8
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Lucky, lucky bastard!
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"Do as i say, not as i do"
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Lucky, lucky bastard!
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FWIW and i know it isn't directed at me, but i welcome your opinion and am enjoying the discussion!
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Join Date: Sep 2006
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it does seem a little hypocritical doesn't it ![]() the argument remains though, if you need to convert it to lpg, then petrol costs were obviously deemed to high, and according to some on this thread, owning a v8 shouldn't be an option. Quote:
for what its worth, i don't worry myself about the price of fuel. its something i can't control and i need to use it so i just fill up and drive until i need to fill again. i own a v8 because i like the sound (who doesn't) and the performance. this doesn't mean i can't drive with the flow of traffic, instead of nailing the throttle at any opportunity. on a side note, i find it amusing that people with manual gearboxes still don't use overdrive unless they are on the freeway or something. they aren't that overdriven that they can't handle any speed from about 60 onwards. the engines develop plenty of torque so they are rarely labouring. |
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I just filled up with United Plus 95 last night, the ethanol one, caus I thought I would give it a go.
Its sluggish compared to the BP 98, and the average fuel usage has gone up too! Dumb petrol.
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Barra Turbo > V8
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Join Date: Mar 2010
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Hey davebro down in strathalbyn they sell 100 octane if you wanna give that a try. Or buy 98 and bottle of octane booster. Ah fuel consumption I know about that ZL fairlane in city driving im lucky to get 18-20L/100km and I gotta fill an 80L tank. Highway is about 14L I drive how I like who cares about the earth. We'll find another planet.
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I bought a car I can afford to run. I love my V8s and LPG is the cheapest way to run them so I put it on LPG. If I couldn't have afforded to put it on gas and do the required kays to offset the installation costs I wouldn't have bought the car. Well I might have still bought it but I would have had to sell it years ago because I couldn't afford to run it and pay it off at the same time. BTW thats not just an off the cuff comment either, that was my financial situation at the time. Buying my car could have been a very stupid financial decision had things been different ![]()
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Join Date: May 2010
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Cars are somewhat shaped like wings - look at a wing cross section. Flat bum and rounded top creates lift. I think it was Mercedes who had flying cars at Le Mans a few years ago- not cool on the Mulsanne straight. Fuel economy is easy- dont spool the turbo as often ![]() |
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No longer a Uni student..
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Join Date: Feb 2005
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i don`t think it matters what car your in, if you drive smoothly, your not just saving fuel, but brakes ,suspension and its a less stressfull drive.
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Join Date: Feb 2009
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In other news related to my thread, I got sick of driving like that after one tank of gas and then really started sticking the boot in to make up for it. Now I'm back up to 17L/100, my neighbours are complaining and my car is groaning under the strain... Fun tho. |
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FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: Feb 2009
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Ha ha ha ha. $400 would've bought quite a bit of fuel I imagine! |
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Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: blue mountains, NSW
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i'd imagine a hard cover would be the same, maybe even better |
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Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Ipswich QLD
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But that flip wanst caused by a flat underbelly if memory serves. It was the upper body that was the cause... And F1 cars have had flat under trays for donkeys years, all the other prototype Le Mans cars have flat under trays too. And someone mentioned the old Lambos, that again was a upper body design issue. It created lift not downforce. I'd like ot know why the new Mazda 6 has a half flat undertray? Does anyone kn0ow of any research that talks about its benefits/drawbacks?
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1. The underside of Aircraft wings are not flat. 2. The underside of cars is not flat but full of wind catching bits. I did own a car once that was almost exactly as you describe, and it stuck to the road like glue.
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FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Moree, NSW
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Ah, every car I have looked at side on looks kinda opposite to a wind to me, ie. the front of a wing for lift is the bigger part of the wing and then it gets thinner. Cars are usually thinner at the front then the back. Also the designers and engineers take lift into account when designing/creating the car and therefore add other areodynamic aids to combat lift. On topic, I drive my SP in a rather spirited fashion around town and regularly see the instant fuel usage around the 12s with 7 to 9's on the highway
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Join Date: Apr 2009
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I would think everyone who pays for fuel cares about economy. or would you fill up at $2.00 litre when across the road you could get the same fuel for $1.00.
I have a gen 3 V8 6sp manual. i take off in 1st then 3rd then 5th and then 6th at 70 km/h if it's ok to do so. and don't hang about poncing around. I do find using a tonneau cover is better on the highway for fuel, and if you have tray back take the sides off helps. The cruise control is not an economy device. it is only a licence saver. A V8 is only a V8, some must think it's a race motor. like ooohh! eebygom Johnny's got a V8 you know. he muost be a rratbag, you know like. ![]() |
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Location: Sydney
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Just move to Adelaide, they all take off from the lights like snails and keep you boxed in so you never get to give your car a rev
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Also try and anticipate lights and try don't rev over 3k.... It all helps. |
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seconds>>> 0.5555ml fuel per second, minutes>>>>33ml fuel per minute ![]() |
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Join Date: Feb 2005
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speaking of aero dynamics..........i did read some time ago that the toyota tarago actually had quite a good drag coefficient actually better than the front wheel drive celica............BELIEVE IT OR NOT !!!
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Edit: Whoops. Sorry for the thread mine..... ![]()
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