Vfacts July 2014

[Fordman1]

Originally Posted by Falcman0o7

Interesting

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That's old and no longer accurate.

[Syndrome]

Originally Posted by Falcman0o7

Interesting

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That table is well out of date.

[burnz]

Originally Posted by Falcman0o7

Ever drove past a heap of sheep and sounded the horn?
Reminds me of commodore owners.

so the commodore owners sound the horn?

and the sheep are ford people?

[Trump]

Originally Posted by swapper

Glasshouses......do you realise that Ford import cars from South Africa and Thailand yeah? Both lower cost and generally speaking lower quality than Korea

Korean auto manufacturing has come a long way since the old Hyundai Exel Daewoo Matiz days

Hyundai and Kia are light years ahead of GM Korea.

[Gadgetman]

Originally Posted by csv8

WTF !! Barina beat Fiesta !!!!! Trax beat Ecosport !! Cruze beat Focus !! at least the old model Mondeo beat Malibu... 2015 Ford will have new Falcon, Focus, Mondeo and Everest..lets hope backed up by a good advertising camapign..

Fiesta was the number 1 selling small car in UK for July and number 42 in small cars in australia. Agree there will be new focus, mondeo and everest but for as long as Ford Australia Markets its products, they will struggle. Shame really cause the products deserve the spotlight for the right reasons.

[johnydep]

Really, who cares where the bits originated from? No one, just look at the sales of all products.

From day one, everyone new that the Commodore was a by-product of the Opel/Vauxhall. Peter Brock even imported some 2 doors & turned them into SS's.

The Commodore had an Aussie 4, 6 & 8 plus trans & diff.

The Falcon had an Aussie 6 plus trans & American engine plus trans. Same with diffs.

Who cares.

[malazn mafia]

Originally Posted by csv8

Giant Cranium...maybe Ecosport should be called Terrier ?? It's a smaller Territory.

Nah, call it Ford Suburb, a smaller Territory.

[Bossxr8]

All the sales numbers prove is Fords sales and marketing teams are a complete and utter failure. They need to be completely cleaned out and started again from scratch.

[Dr Smith]

Originally Posted by johnydep

Really, who cares where the bits originated from? No one, just look at the sales of all products.

From day one, everyone new that the Commodore was a by-product of the Opel/Vauxhall. Peter Brock even imported some 2 doors & turned them into SS's.

The Commodore had an Aussie 4, 6 & 8 plus trans & diff.

The Falcon had an Aussie 6 plus trans & American engine plus trans. Same with diffs.

Who cares.

I beg to differ, most people, (not car enthusiasts) think that the Commodore has been a full Australian ground up design from day one. Holden has never once mentioned it's Opel connections because this would have hampered its "Australian" car manufacturer image. Of all the car manufactures it has been Holden's greatest asset in pushing it's Australian roots. Even when Falcon has been more Australian for ever and a day it has a Ford badge on it which is an American brand. One thing to look forward to is how will Holden grab 2500+ sales after local production ends. It will take marketing genius to push anything they sell with the Australian lineage gone because really when all are imports heritage won't be as big a selling factor, but rather the car itself, features, quality and importantly price.

[Falcman0o7]

Originally Posted by burnz

so the commodore owners sound the horn?

and the sheep are ford people?

No...

One runs and the others follow!
Just like commodore lovers buying a commodore because everyone else has one and they are cool are they do *** skids and they sell well and they go fast and peter brock drove one ect ect.
But if you ask them where the petrol goes they say it goes in the radiator.
Just saying they follow each other like sheep.

[Smoke Pursuit]

Originally Posted by Bossxr8

All the sales numbers prove is Fords sales and marketing teams are a complete and utter failure. They need to be completely cleaned out and started again from scratch.

Well they cant even prepare a brochure without costing the company $55k!!

Lol they put that the Pursuit had rear sensors standard, which it doesnt. Now they have had to offer every pursuit owner their first service at 15,000 kms for free (usually costs $465).

LOL.

[russellw]

It's been a bit busy lately so I've only just got around to doing the June graphical stats along with the 2nd Quarter segment analysis.

They can be found here:

2nd Quarter Segment Analysis

June Sales Statistics

June Supplementary Statistics

I'll try and get the July numbers done today.

Cheers
Russ

[russellw]

The first set of Statistical Data for July is now uploaded to the Technical Portal.

Cheers
Russ

[russellw]

The second set of Statistical data for July is now uploaded to the Technical Portal.

Cheers
Russ

[buickman]

Looks like the Holden is bring back an old colour to their line up Hot House Green. Attachment 84250

[burnz]

Originally Posted by Falcman0o7

No...

One runs and the others follow!
Just like commodore lovers buying a commodore because everyone else has one and they are cool are they do *** skids and they sell well and they go fast and peter brock drove one ect ect.
But if you ask them where the petrol goes they say it goes in the radiator.
Just saying they follow each other like sheep.

that's because they are cool.

petrol in the radiator! as long as it runs who cares.

[Smoke Pursuit]

Originally Posted by buickman

Looks like the Holden is bring back an old colour to their line up Hot House Green. Attachment 84250

They built them a few months ago. Don't think it will make it.

[olds]

Originally Posted by Bossxr8

All the sales numbers prove is Fords sales and marketing teams are a complete and utter failure. They need to be completely cleaned out and started again from scratch.

The product is the failure Doesn't matter how much marketing spin you put on it you cant polish a horse ****

[galaxy xr8]

Originally Posted by olds

The product is the failure Doesn't matter how much marketing spin you put on it you cant polish a horse ****

Oh really.. had a bad day have we.

[Bossxr8]

Originally Posted by olds

The product is the failure Doesn't matter how much marketing spin you put on it you cant polish a horse ****

It's been widely acknowledged that many Ford vehicles are top of their respective classes, or close enough to it. You are clearly a troll.

Crawl back under the bridge you emerged from

[vztrt]

Originally Posted by olds

The product is the failure Doesn't matter how much marketing spin you put on it you cant polish a horse ****

So how is Holden selling their garbage?

[csv8]

Originally Posted by vztrt

So how is Holden selling their garbage?

Advertising !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Chopped]

I reckon Holden will switch to the Opel range once local production stops.

[MethodX]

Originally Posted by Syndrome

LOL. Wrong on so many levels.

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Not this crap again... So ford is allowed to be a multinational but Holden isn't?
Smart thinking... not.
Then the mustang is an imported bitsa by that rationale.

[Franco Cozzo]

Meh doesn't matter how crap your product is, if you can reach enough people with advertising you'll get sales.

Ford's marketing department are about as useful as a Nazi gift shop in Israel

[Syndrome]

Originally Posted by MethodX

Not this crap again... So ford is allowed to be a multinational but Holden isn't?
Smart thinking... not.
Then the mustang is an imported bitsa by that rationale.

What are you smoking? It is one thing to import ideas and styling cues from other locations, it is totally different to use a whole car from another location and do modifications to it for the local market.

[MethodX]

Originally Posted by Syndrome

What are you smoking? It is one thing to import ideas and styling cues from other locations, it is totally different to use a whole car from another location and do modifications to it for the local market.

Ford = Ford
GM = GM no matter which division.

same difference.

[1TUFFUTE]

Originally Posted by johnydep

I suppose they should have locked the gates on the day they decided it was time to stop manufacturing in Australia?

No but they should have started being more responsible and stopped splashing money at NRL, football teams, v8teams drivers and engineers and other things. I wonder if they even cut back on early planned advertising budget they had for the vf after they decided it was being cut. I bet they didn't......and is another reason why they're in billions of debt here just like the states and many quality recalls of late.
The vf is the ONLY good product in Holden Australia but yet the sheep still flock

[LoudPipes]

Originally Posted by 1TUFFUTE

No but they should have started being more responsible and stopped splashing money at NRL, football teams, v8teams drivers and engineers and other things. I wonder if they even cut back on early planned advertising budget they had for the vf after they decided it was being cut. I bet they didn't......and is another reason why they're in billions of debt here just like the states and many quality recalls of late.
The vf is the ONLY good product in Holden Australia but yet the sheep still flock

Aren’t they only stopping the manufacture of cars here?
If they’re still selling in this market even if it’s just imports wouldn’t they still need to advertise and market themselves?
If what you say is true and they only have one good product but the other rubbish models are still selling to the sheep then their marketing strategy must be working.
I don’t fathom how you can say a company is irresponsible for drawing attention to their brand.
You’ve got to spend money to make money.
Most people don't read car mags, they see something they like on the Tele or what the neighbour is driving.
Ford has to eventually start marketing itself otherwise how will the buying public know if the product exists let alone if it's any good or not.

[Dave R]

Originally Posted by vztrt

So how is Holden selling their garbage?

They are very good at polishing turds (referring to their cheapy imports). Comparing the Fiesta website to the Barina website is depressing. Ford have managed to make their premium car look cheap, while Holden have managed to make their cheap car look premium.