What do you class as rice? - Page 3

Walkinshaw · 05-03-2006, 05:17 PM

there is no reason a plumb back BOV cant flow enough for 36x rwkw. None at all.

LTDHO · 05-03-2006, 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by AshMan

You wanna be like that ИИИИ?

Lets talk to the EPA and see what they have to say.

ИИИИing smart ИИИИ

AshMan, what's your problem? Why are you so defensive? I don't care if mine is considered rice, I don't take offence to being called rice.
Oh and can you tell me exactly the legistlation where it states that atmosphere BOV is illegal?
The EPA have viewed my vehicle in December last year!

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Originally Posted by Walkinshaw

there is no reason a plumb back BOV cant flow enough for 36x rwkw. None at all.

Possible, but my old BOV caused damage, to overkill is the best prevention. Also Atmosphere draws crowds too!

klawsterfobik · 05-03-2006, 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by DUMTEF

rice could also be classed as turboing a car thats not ment to be turboed

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like an E-series Adam? or the twin turbo v8 that was in a boat at the boatramp today?

rice to me is when the amount of work on the exterior and interior outweighs the amount of work that has been put into the mechanicals

AshMan · 05-03-2006, 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by LTDHO

Oh and can you tell me exactly the legistlation where it states that atmosphere BOV is illegal?

ADR 37 - Emission Control for Light Vehicles

LUXO_8 · 05-03-2006, 10:14 PM

where exactly does it say that atmo venting BOV's are illegal though......

DUMTEF · 05-03-2006, 10:35 PM

epa laws i beleive

Aaron_EF8 · 05-03-2006, 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by TUFFR

i think most of u guys that class rice as jap cars are realy one sided. sure aussie cars are "tuff" but outa the factory the japanese sports car would mop anycar outa the shop here in aus. how would u feel driving a 6ltr 70 grand car geting moped by a motor half ur size and 1/3 ur capacity and 1/4 its value... i think its time to give some respect to hi tech low capacity cars. yeah i admit there are some bullИИИИ excells and hyundais and stuff, but nissan, subaru etc are quality companys who excelll in great engeneerd cars that kick *** outa the factory

Now you're comparing new cars to 2nd hand ones, that isn't very fair. If you want to do that, an XD with a worked 351C/auto will run quicker and cost less anyway.

Walkinshaw · 05-03-2006, 11:45 PM

The laws are based on two properties.

#1 if your car is MAF sensored and has the snesor before the BOV. If it vents to atmosphere your sensor reads incorrectly and emmissiions are effected.

#2 if its MAP or Alpha-N the regulation has to do with noise/filter oil or the like.

A regulation check would be the way to check 100% as im just speculating.

snypereb · 06-03-2006, 12:29 AM

Body kit, neons, tacho's with no engine mods= rice

xr8ute · 06-03-2006, 12:42 AM

Back in the olden days, "Rice Burners" where used to label any of the cars to come out of Japan...

...then they started kicking our ИИИИ in touring car racing with the Skyline GTR, and the TT Supra. Its now used to bag the sh i t out of cars that are somewhat overdone in the looks department and underdone in the grunt department.

Sadly, it seems there are more riced-up domestics than imports these days.

stiddy · 06-03-2006, 12:46 AM

Rice = making a slow car look and sound like its going fast haha, over done cosmetics, lacking in performance..

LOL dave, love the sig ;)

EAman · 06-03-2006, 01:01 AM

from my understanding the term rice comes from rice burner and a rice burner would most likely come from some of our asian neigbours were our rice also comes from!!!!

el_sparko · 06-03-2006, 01:05 AM

hmm, what ИИИИes me off if when people look at my brothers car and say that the rims, big exhaouhst, lowering, pod filter on a laser are pure rice and that he should be shot for doing it. not long after they find out that it in fact is a awd tx3 turbo laser muahahaha. but yer, lots of people here say jap cars are rice but in reality they are more of a bang for your buck. example, my bros tx3 is made by mazda (fords version of 323 familia gtx) now yeah it only runs 15.3 in stock form and my el is very close to it but through hills or any kind of twisty stuff hes miles ahead of me and with the 3" ehaoust he leaves me a fair bit behind. in fact most imports do this, the money you pay for imports and modify em cannot be spent exact way on any average ford/holden and either way imports will allways be more responsive and handle better. say what you want, i only bought my el for daily purposes and cruising arround, as soon as i got enough money saved up im moving on to a import.

also, if there is a modified daewoo, hyundai or any other korean car its IS classified as rice because these cars are not meant to be modified and look like ИИИИ modified or not.

my final verdict on rice: anything korean made and stickers/vynils on cars or oversized bodykits that dont suit the car entirely.

InitialD · 06-03-2006, 01:05 AM

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Originally Posted by efbeggza

Autobarn wing!

they are sold at repco, supercheap auto, etc lol id LOVE to know how its a autobarn branded wing :S

from what ive read from some of you, NNNN me my car is rice... i mean chrome, looks faster then it is, neons inside and in the boot... Just call me Sir Ricealot

xr8ute · 06-03-2006, 01:22 AM

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Originally Posted by InitialD

... Just call me Sir Ricealot

"I like big stickers/neons/wings and i can not lie"....oops, i've said too much

InitialD · 06-03-2006, 01:34 AM

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Originally Posted by xr8ute

"I like big stickers/neons/wings and i can not lie"....oops, i've said too much

I like big wings and I can not lie,
You other brothers cant deny,
That when a celica drives in with an oversized wing
And a round neon tip shining in your face
You get sprung
Wanna pull up tough
Cuz you notice that bumper was stuffed
Deep in the paint she's wearing
I'm hooked and I can't stop staring
Oh, baby I wanna get with ya
And take your picture
My Eseries folks tried to warn me
But that Rice you got
"Make Me so horney"
Ooh, Neons of sin,
You say you wanna get in my eseriez
Well use me, use me, cuz you aint that average crusier,

So Fellas (yeah) Fellas(yeah)
Has your falcon got the rice? (hell yeah)
Well shake it, shake it, shake it, shake it, shake that boring bonnet
Baby got Rice.... Baby got rice...

(whoa its 1:30am and im fricken bored!)

xr8ute · 06-03-2006, 01:43 AM

LMAO.....i thought i was bored

stiddy · 06-03-2006, 01:45 AM

LOL i have a celica with an oversized wing, if i could be bothered posting a pic i would hahaha
nice song though, its kinda catchy LOL

InitialD · 06-03-2006, 01:45 AM

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Originally Posted by xr8ute

LMAO.....i thought i was bored

LOL you got me going ;) its lame but hey it filled in 5mins

stiddy · 06-03-2006, 01:57 AM

ok ok i could be bothered..

The celica (or supra as police know it).. With is over sized rear wing :P
told ya I had one lol

xr8ute · 06-03-2006, 02:13 AM

Stiddy....does that number plate say ZIK? Thats almost SIK!!!!

AMT · 06-03-2006, 02:19 AM

Go sir mixalot you go....!!!!

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stiddy · 06-03-2006, 02:21 AM

hahaha the celicas plates are ZIK my falcon plates are KIZ :P

AshMan · 06-03-2006, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by MADNC_8

where exactly does it say that atmo venting BOV's are illegal though......

Read them and find out.

I paid good cash for my copy of the ADR's, you go buy a copy, read them, and then quote them on the forums.

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LTDHO · 06-03-2006, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by AshMan

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Originally Posted by MADNC_8

where exactly does it say that atmo venting BOV's are illegal though......

Read them and find out.

I paid good cash for my copy of the ADR's, you go buy a copy, read them, and then quote them on the forums.

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Ash, you could at lease narrow the search down to Section, subsection or page.
I would like to know and read this.

fiery · 06-03-2006, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by LTDHO

Ash, you could at lease narrow the search down to Section, subsection or page.
I would like to know and read this.

I have just finished searching through the Legislation I have here and couldnt find any comments...... so will have to wait for Ash to fill all in on it...
curiosty......!!!!!

Gunns · 06-03-2006, 01:34 PM

If it is to do noise, as long as the bov does not excide 90db standing 1m away, at 3200rpm there is no problem under the epa act.

Walkinshaw · 06-03-2006, 01:35 PM

all ADR's should be available free of charge online.

fiery · 06-03-2006, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Walkinshaw

all ADR's should be available free of charge online.

Yes they are actually.. you just have to download them!!

Gunns · 06-03-2006, 02:35 PM

Ok, after reading all this I rang thr RTA and asked what the deal with BOV are.
1. All Plumb back BOV are leagal
2. All Atmospheric BOV are leagal providing that the car can meet a IM240 test where they measure HC, NOx, CO & CO2 gases.
3. A cop or an EPA officer can not fine you for having a BOV they can request that you have a IM240 test done on your car. That is all!