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27-12-2009, 08:09 PM | #91 | |||
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27-12-2009, 10:17 PM | #92 | |||
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27-12-2009, 10:32 PM | #93 | ||
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The article "The chase was called off due to excessive speeds, which at times reached 235km/h, police said" - that suggests to me that the cops went that fast, not neccessarily the XR8 (unless thats what the cops used to catch him). For all that is stated in the article, the XR8 was only ever clocked at 140km/h. |
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27-12-2009, 11:02 PM | #94 | |||
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make a very good point with that. they never said that they did clock him at that higher speed, but I think there has been a bit of leeway with the writing of the article to suit the desire to dish up 'horror' everyday perhaps?
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28-12-2009, 12:54 AM | #95 | |||
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i do respect the police in general just some of the thingsthey do like revenue raising is bs |
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28-12-2009, 01:07 AM | #96 | |||
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I get much bigger a look in my FG xrg on p plates (SAFE CAR, THAT I TAKE CARE OF, SPEND MONEY ON AND LOVE) compared to people in 25 year old un-roadworthy, unsafe piece of . I would rather be labelled a hoon in a fast SAFE car then a "sensible" person in an old UNSAFE pos. If i had to choose between a 500hp modified monster, to a 100hp kia, give me the monster, I know I would much more likely survive a car accident. Even go as far to say, me having an accident in my FG at 140km/h I would stand a better chance of surviving then equivalent circumstances at 80km/h in a 1995 hyundai excel (cant get much faster then that in an excel) Cops need to WAKEUP to this, the dirty revenue raising tactics are just that... dirty revenue raising tactics, unlikely to save anyones life, whereas targetting unroadworthy cars will. |
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28-12-2009, 01:18 AM | #97 | ||
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The cops arnt out revenue raising because they get paid extra dollars for raising more money there doing a job that higher ups tell them to do you gotta catch this many people or you get kicked in the butt we'd all do the same so respect the people who do there jobs and cop pardon the pun crap from both sides.
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28-12-2009, 01:34 AM | #98 | |||
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placing both him and them selves in danger along with the public all for a lousy 140kph (was he stuck in 2nd?) and a guestimated 3rd gear (225 in the Jag ) Wouldn't stopping for the arrest later serve the same result ? Not knowing the roads I assume it was dangerous making both parties to the chase appear stupid and simply hard to understand the thinking in such a pursuite |
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28-12-2009, 01:55 AM | #99 | ||
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The police should chase in every circumstance.
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28-12-2009, 08:38 AM | #100 | |||
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28-12-2009, 09:16 AM | #101 | ||
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so they clocked him at 140???
so why chase him get the plate and do him later idiots now theres two cars doing that speed when they chase him.
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28-12-2009, 10:21 AM | #102 | ||
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Ahh, and what if the car was stolen, something they wouldn't know unless they pulled him over.
The way i see it he was first noticed doing 140, they chased at which time the offender accellerated much higher and it was called off. Standard procedure. Instead of questioning why the coppers chased, question why the driver failed to stop when requested. And using the old 'if you didnt threaten to take my car away' line is no excuse, you big enough to do the crime, you should be big enough to accept the consequences. |
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28-12-2009, 10:26 AM | #103 | ||
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who cares if the car is stolen?
the point is there was now two cars doing 200+
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28-12-2009, 10:35 AM | #104 | |||
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Where does it say the Police car was doing 200+ For all you know they may have called in the Police helicopter who clocked the higher speeds and followed until another car pulled him over. Last edited by BENT_8; 28-12-2009 at 10:40 AM. |
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28-12-2009, 10:46 AM | #105 | ||||
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They need to do what ever they can to get these types of the road! If it means chasing them down .... where they determine as appropriate .... then they should do so.
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28-12-2009, 10:50 AM | #106 | |||
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it is amazing - the lowest common demonimator rule is offensive to most on this forum, but it is okay to keep the police (who have driver training) bound to it |
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28-12-2009, 11:29 AM | #107 | |||
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28-12-2009, 11:34 AM | #108 | |||
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28-12-2009, 11:48 AM | #109 | ||
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People B and Moan about police not doing their jobs and that speed camera's are the "silent assassins" or revenue raisers, yet when the police actually provide visible and active "policing" people want to throw rocks and critisise...??? WTF??
You want active policing, you want police interaction and the ability to get warnings but if someone does a runner just let them go? What about bank robbers, murderers and people who have committed a serious assult? dont chase them either? same theory applies... So now police cant chase, they just roll over and let them go? Police cant speed because regular motorists aren't allowed? What exactly can police do if you take all their powers away? Some people need a reality check.... or check their license in and stay off the road...
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28-12-2009, 12:09 PM | #110 | |||
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We all know that speeding is irresponsible and big powered cars are capable of good acceleration and speed, but how much overspeed is considered acceptable. The Govt has made it clear there is no margin for error and imposes fines accordingly (every k over is a killer campaign). The public however seem to deem it's OK to travel at say 105 -110 on a 100kph stretch, it must be the case because I am consistently passed on freeways....law breakers and killers everyone of them. |
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deal with the facts, no one slid off the road into a mini van of newly born baby's, he fled, then went back to hand himself in.. and NO ONE got hurt.
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28-12-2009, 12:17 PM | #112 | |||
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as for the 105-110 I'm one of those you speak of, guess what there is a 10% leeway in qld and nsw before a camera is triggered, 67 in a 60, 111 in a 100zone etc, so if I'm doing brisbane to roma/cairns/townsville or mt isa as is usually the case ill push the boundaries without getting caught... I'm still alive after doing 500,000+ km and haven't caused any accidents... yes every K over is a killer ... :
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28-12-2009, 02:47 PM | #113 | |||
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28-12-2009, 02:52 PM | #114 | |||
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I meant 500hp monster vs 100hp Kia, you would be targeted as a hoon in the 500hp monster, yet are more likely to survive a crash in a bigger car that you have spent money on (suspension, brakes, keep in good condition etc) rather then a Kia that the owner wouldn't even know how to pop the bonnet lol. People like me in modified new cars on P plates are labelled as hoons by the general public, I get alot of dirty looks from neighbours just being on my P's in a beautiful Ford, where i know I take care of my car, love it etc |
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28-12-2009, 03:12 PM | #115 | |||
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No it wouldn't. But don't fool yourself into thinking any car can hit a solid object at 100k's and you walk away. Crash tests have been done at 100k's in the best 5 star cars. A person couldn't have survived the recorded 60 G stop. |
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28-12-2009, 03:13 PM | #116 | ||
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Majority of the fatal accidents you will find, and its easier enough to sift through the media articles to obtain this, but they are not caused by 500RWHP monsters, they are L/P platers with little experience, or family people who are so fixated on speed that they fail to realise overtaking on a blind corner will and does have a higher potential to kill.
back to the argument from KEZZER, I'm sure that the active and passive safety on an F6 typhoon outweigh the duel airbags and 4 channel ABS on fitted as options at best on the KIA..
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28-12-2009, 03:18 PM | #117 | ||
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apart from a post or a very solid brick wall that is about 30+cm thick, what are you going to hit that isn't going to have give/break/crumple upon impact??? cars don't hit HEAD on, they are usually offset with at least 1 car under full brakes at time of impact very few are with no breaking and center to center head on, so the argument about walking away at speeds is a huge variable, I know of one person personally who has survived a 180km/h combined speed impact with another car, another one is a guy who I sold a car to got T boned and died on impact.... impact speed of no more than 30km/h... so its a crystal ball guess as to if you hit it will you die, but if you can avoid an impact/or aim for a less solid object if you must hit something then your likely hood of survival will increase.
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trees yes, i stated power poles, concrete walls tend to shatter depending on the force its hit at, as I said before unless its 30cm thick and reinforced..., parked trucks will still have some form of give as metal deforms on impact, have you ever seen a car hit a house?... houses tend to be better to hit than a car so long as no one is inside the house.
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