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Is it possible to get data on the model split from Ford?
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Luxo SUVs push back the gloom
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Phillyc's got it in a nutshell, bring on Coyote, it can't come fast enough.
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Holden’s local sales domination not as it seems
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It beggars belief that Holden can still sell more Aussie made cars considering that Ford locally produce a SUV and a cab chassis ute. Ford's lack of decent station wagon is killing them. |
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Not really, Holden have to pay off the wagon. The Terri is at the end of the model run and the wagon is a good money earner. Ford need an updated Terri as that would be more beneficial then the wagon.
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A Falcon Hatch would probably do the same thing... a true FG Wagon on the other hand might be a different story.... but its a big risk.
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Also as an aside, when the Falcon wagon stops production there will be no more LPG wagon available on the market. Only not too long ago, we had the Magna, Commodore and Falcon wagons all available with factory LPG, soon we'l have none. |
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A redesigned Territory with diesel option could see 2,000 monthly sales again. The facelifted picked up sales from 600-800 to 1000-1200 a month. The sector has about 50% diesel sales too... But, alas that is for 2011 not 2010.
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Territory will outsell holden wagon easy if its given the chance it deserves.. Ford are stupid if they build a sports wagon, they are only going to kill the territory off and to be honest its a much more feasible proposition to a wagon, 7 seats and awd give it a big tick!
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let's hope that the 2011 diesel Territory soars in popularity and doubles sales numbers... The equation is simple, does Ford throw money at a new wagon to get maybe another 10,000 sales a year or do they use the cash to do something else like Ecoboost Falcon to generate new sales where Holden has no competitor... |
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Why the heck would fleets buy a I4T Falcon, when a Hybrid Camry is cheaper and makes a better environmental statement or when a LPG I6 is cheaper to run. They may pick up one or two '4 cylinder only fleets', but the horse is already bolted. Fleets now have the excuse to buy cheap small cars with good resale, they are not going back to large cars. |
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They need to release the Econetic Mondeo (5.4L/100km average)to take the wind out of the Hybrid Camry sails.
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Quarter of a billion bucks to chase a few zero-profit Camry/Corolla fleet sales..? There has to be more to it than that, perhaps it will eventually replace the I6.. |
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Falcon's future is anything but a fleet queen.... |
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The Ecoboost I-4 Falcon is not about chasing the I-4 Camry base model's price,
it's about offering a full sized vehicle alternative to mid sizers with a greener engine. Those who think the LILPG engine will win more retail sales are kidding them selves, that market is deaf to LPG and want something else instead and Ford has chosen Ecoboost I-4. My preference is for Falcon to be changed just enough to allow fitment of the V6 Diesel, that to me would be a far better plan for attracting profitable sales than the Ecoboost I-4. |
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IMO large RWD is/will be really about being a performance/prestige vehicle. The split of sales for FG with XR & G series being 95% of total sales is an indication of this.
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Not that I dont believe it, but what are the private sales of a Falcon? I know fleet sales have dropped a lot, but are there actually more private buyers buying? I remember reading that the percentage of private has increased, but that would be obvious when there are 40,000 less fleet sales a year compared to the nineties. The only private people I know of personally who have bought Aussie cars recently have been the wagons or SUVs (Sportwagons, Territories). Every large hire car I get is an XR6 so they are obviously being bought be fleets. |
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I believe it, It just seems to be that the whole rationale behind the 4 cylinder was to capture the fleet market, im putting it on the record that I dont think it will make a big difference to fleet sales, not with local Cruze, Camry, Hybrid Camry and LPG Falcon already gunning for it. But, the 4 cylinder may open it up to great export oppurtunities and more premium private buyers. |
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