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Data valid as at 00:00 GMT August 30th 2021.
Note: As not all Australian States report at the same time, the data below is based on the previous full day reporting. 1,381 new cases for Australia and 4 deaths so the CMR is 1.906%. NSW set a new record with 1,293 cases and the total is also a new record for Australia. 55 new cases and no deaths for NZ so CMR is 0.739%. The UK had a lower 26,227 cases yesterday and lower 48 deaths for a CMR of 1.961%. A higher 180,646 new cases in the USA yesterday and higher 845 deaths sees CMR at 1.646%. Other notable points: Australia passes 1,000 deaths; Europe passes 55M cases; Asia drops below the 90th percentile for the 10 day period; French Guyana (400); Australia (1,381); Mauritius (1,529); Vietnam (14,224); and the Philippines (22,366) ... recorded new highs; those in blue for the second consecutive day and those in red for a third or more consecutive day. No countries move above the 90th percentile for the 10 day period while South Africa drops below.
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500k dose swap deal with Singapore coming this week. We will give it back in December.
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NSW reported a lower 1,168 cases in the current period which move the actual line below the predictive trend and also improves the 10-day average growth rate to 1.0413 (previously 1.08).
![]() It's the end of another fortnight in the UK. Between the 31/7 and 14/8 they recorded 410,237 cases and in the period from 15-29/8 they had 1,478 deaths for a CMR of 0.360%. That is worse than the previous fortnight which was 0.239% but better than the one before that at 0.446%. For the 6 weeks since freedom day, they have had 1,181,899 cases and 3,780 deaths for an overall CMR of 0.320% and in the current period there have been a further 490,412 cases which will probably result in another ~1,500 deaths. I would normally compare Florida but there is a fair lag in their reporting of deaths so we'll need to wait but so far the 305,742 cases have resulted in 1,832 (which will increase) for a CMR of 0.599%.
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Quite astounding that we have to resort to doing these sorts of deals. Would have thought our friends in the US would be able to provide some sort of relief.
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What has always made me wonder is when Scomo has said NSW is bringing their allocation forward. Forward from where? Next March? That has always sounded like tricky accounting to me.
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Yes it is particularly useful for shifting expiring doses. I would have thought this would be easy to sort with the US but apparently not.
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Bloody hell, the amount of ridiculous statements people make about the vax is mind blowing. https://www.nbcnews.com/health/healt...-have-n1275500 WASHINGTON — At least 125,000 fully vaccinated Americans have tested positive for Covid and 1,400 of those have died, according to data collected by NBC News. |
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The global CMR for the unvaccinated is a bit over 2.0% and a little higher in the USA at 2.3%. The 125k breakthrough cases with 1,400 deaths equates to a CMR of 1.14% or about half the going USA rate but that's also a lot higher than the 0.4-0.5% being seen in the UK. As data goes, it's a bit 'all hype and no substance'. Yes, that 125k is only 0.08% of vaccinated people but does that mean that 99.92% of vaccinated people don't get it - no of course it doesn't and without deliberately exposing people who are vaccinated and unvaccinated we'll probably never really have accurate data except for that which we gather over time. The best study we have to date (albeit with the Alpha variant) was performed in Israel where >11k of the staff at Sheba hospital were fully vaccinated by April this year and over a 14 week period they identified 39 breakthrough infections in a high risk environment - although 57% contracted the virus at home. 67% of those had mild symptoms and 13 were asymptomatic while none were hospitalised. That data has to be taken with some caution as the target group were mostly young, fit and healthy. Some US states are keeping data on breakthrough cases (the CDC doesn't) and California has said that the case rate in July was 33 per 100k for the unvaccinated and 7 per 100k for the vaccinated and their hospitalisation rate for the vaccinated is only 1 in every 10k (0.01%) compared to the non-vaccinated rate of of 70 per 10k 0.7% or a 70x difference although it should be noted that most of that data is also the alpha variant.
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The vaccine is not 100% effective, we've established that. Let's call it what it is, breakthrough events unfortunately happen, and some may result in death. There's no need to speculate further than that. |
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In round figures for you. 160 million are fully vaxxed in the US (about half of the population) In your article you point out that 1400 fully vaxxed have died since January. In the same time in the other half of the population (not fully vaxxed)...... 215000 have died. I cannot see what you are trying to say about vaccination not working.
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It's official, Perth to host AFL Grandfinal.
Apparently a time zone bubble will start for Perth and the surrounding area next week. The plan is bring them in line with the correct time on the East Coast, so the Grand final start time is not effected. WA Premier Mark McGowan says the time zone change could be permanent if enough West Australians wanted it. ![]() ![]()
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The vaccinated ones who are dying from I would like to know their age groups and medical ailments they might have had at time of death. |
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The Hospitalisation rate, and death rate, is significantly different. |
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I was just thinking how on earth WA are going to come out of their little bubble. Aside from international travel, Western Australians have been living covid normal for the best part of the last 18 months. Once we hit 70%, its going to be a pretty hard sell to say "open up, oh by the way, covid is going to sweep through the population, some will end up in hospital, and some will die, oh and the doherty institute states once covid is in your society, you will still need targeted restrictions if there is an outbreak." Its not a surprise no one there wants their current environment to change. Its going to be very interesting times when we hit that target. Re: time zones, well you learn something new everyday! I actually thought this was a standard set globally, but it seems individual countries can set their own.
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The 70% is just touted as a reward for sydney to go out and get vaxxed quickly, nothing in the plan points to significant changes if for example, the health dept struggling, the spread is too great, certian populations or workers not there yet etc.
No one is opening up at 70%, lock downs don't end at 70%. At 80% it all depends on the hospitals and death rate Some time after that WA might let in vaxxed people that have a negative test ![]() GB, NSW gov, the people and the feds are just having a laugh caring about WAs restrictions, a distraction to blame other states for something - no idea what. And the NSW gov is having a laugh at their citizens dangling a nothingburger 70% target |
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He did not say vaccination not working....stop trolling and twisting.
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WA is overpriced anyway
![]() The national decision to open up the country is more about the economy and for mining, farmers, hosp and tourism to hire imported workers more than anything anyway. It's a business thing, for the economy, rather than for a couple of people crossing borders. I know many want to see family or do a little traveling but I bet governments will put those reasons last. Getting people OS via qantas will come first, because money and lobbying. |
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It will be interesting to see how long it takes the anti-vaxxers to get vaccinated once the fully vaccinated are given freedoms that un-vaccinated won't have
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I suggest not too long but its going to be a royal PIA to manage for businesses etc...I feel for them, they ae policing enough as it is.
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Heres a simple explanation from a simple person
You have two revolvers in front of you ....one you have to put to your temple and pull the trigger The vaccinated one has one bullet , the unvaccinated has five Which one you gonna choose Hombre ![]()
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The comment I made was after a number of posts about the vaccine not being good enough because it doesn't completely eradicate the virus like https://www.fordforums.com.au/showth...77#post6615777 "We need a cure, not something that masks the symptoms like these ineffective "vaccines", that still allow you to get it and spread it, but slightly reduce the chances of death. It's just a band-aid solution. As soon as we open up again it's going to spread like wildfire, no matter how many people are vaxxed." No twisting required. Saving 200,000 people in the US this year so far is not "ineffective". Bossxr8 is not incorrect in what he is saying, it is just a personal opinion on what is acceptable, and when (not if) it spreads like wildfire, what are the repercussions.
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I agree, sitting at places like Bell Gorge & Manning Gorge, or going into the Windjana Gorge
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Outside of Perth going North either coast or inland is a very different experience to anything on the East Coast, I have only taken the inland road, the Gt Northern Hwy, lots of triples not B Doubles, and grey nomads everywhere, but anywhere I saw tyre tracks off the highway then I went the opposite way. Winter and Spring is best,, because of flower season, but its an experience wherever you go, I will have to have a look at " Claire's Footsteps " sounds like an interesting blog, hope you get here someday and you really should find your own way around. But you may be like my nephew, I asked him to come prospecting and swagging it, his answer blew me away! He said Uncle Billy, you might like to see all the stars above your head, but I just want to see 5 Stars!...lol. Cheers Billy ![]() |
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