Idiots locking their kids in cars today.

[LoudPipes]

Originally Posted by zilo

I can't believe you are stupid enough to think a kid will die in a car in 5 minutes....or even 10 for that matter.

In that case I’m happy to be stupid.

A few short articles for you to read.


This ones from the RAQC – It says a matter of minutes.
From air conditioning to 40 degrees in in as little as 7 minutes can kill.

http://www.racq.com.au/motoring/cars/safer_cars/safety_fact_sheets/dangers_of_leaving_children_in_hot_cars


This is from the NRMA – It says research has shown on a 30 degrees C day the temperature in the car can be as high as 70 degrees C. It says 75% of the temperature increase occurs within 5 minutes and that it can reach 78 degrees in a closed car and 70 degrees with the windows open.

http://www.mynrma.com.au/motoring-services/education/children/hot-cars.htm


This from the ABC – Says it’s like putting a gun to your child’s head.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-01-15/11-children-left-locked-in-cars-during-victorias-extreme-heat/5200744



There are hundreds of references on the web to the idiotic practice of locking children in cars as it’s not a phenomenon known only to Australia.

In NSW the fine for leaving a child locked in a car is up to $22,000.

Someone is stupid and it makes you wonder who.

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[qdda5]

Originally Posted by zilo

I can't believe you are stupid enough to think a kid will die in a car in 5 minutes....or even 10 for that matter.

Here my friends is a classic example of why people should not have children.

[ltd]

Originally Posted by qdda5

Here my friends is a classic example of why people should not have children.

I think we should have a referendum on child licenses.
After all, you need to have a license to drive, to fly, to be married, to practice law or medicine, to operate heavy equipment; why shouldn't there be a license based on your ability to care for a child, nurture it and provide for it?

Far too many idiots are having children as a means to get welfare, some areas in Australia have become welfare capitals and the selfish bastards who call themselves parents just don't care. License them, if no license then give the child up to adoption and at least give it a chance at having a loving home.

As for idiots locking kids in cars - no excuse. It's more about your convenience than anything else, as getting kids in and out takes time. Stop being selfish and do the right thing.
This summer, I plan to carry a nice big hammer in the car to smash any window on any car with a child locked inside.

[2011G6E]

Originally Posted by ltd

As for idiots locking kids in cars - no excuse. It's more about your convenience than anything else, as getting kids in and out takes time. Stop being selfish and do the right thing.

Exactly...there is literally NO other excuse for it. "Convenience" covers it nicely. So it takes a minute to get a kid out of a seat. Big deal. This is the same "reasoning" that idiots who run flashing red lights in front of our trains use...they're "busy", they're "saving time", they "don't want to be held up".
In both cases, it comes down to a couple of simple outcomes...you might get away with it for a while, but sooner or later you have a very good chance of slipping up, making a mistake, and death could well be the outcome. The difference is in one case it's only your own stupid self you're killing, in the other it's a little kid who has no choice in the matter.
Is your busy busy lifestyle really that hectic you can't spare a couple of extra minutes?

This summer, I plan to carry a nice big hammer in the car to smash any window on any car with a child locked inside.

Supercheap or Autobarn sell lovely tungsten pointed hammers specifically designed for breaking glass super easily. I've always had one in the car just in case. They're not only good for your own car if you're, say, trapped after an accident and are in a state to do something about your own release, but they're good for helping other people out of their cars if trapped.

Even if that person is only two feet tall.

[superyob]

Originally Posted by zilo

I can't believe you are stupid enough to think a kid will die in a car in 5 minutes....or even 10 for that matter.

I shall resist the urge to call you what you are (on this matter) and simply say that you would not willingly lock yourself in a hot car for five or ten minutes, but then expect a child with a lesser constitution to put up with that same situation...

[steve.zissou]

lets not forget you might have a kid like me.

leave me in a car an there was a good chance you would see said car rolling down the road/driveway/shopfront/river. Happened twice to my mum and a couple of other times to relative that didnt know i could do it. I must have been about 3 or 4.
My mum still talks about how scary it was seeing her 4 year old behind the wheel with a 1 year old and 2 year old in their baby seats rolling past as she was talking to a neighbour.

then i figured out how to use the old man lighter - but i'll save that for another time

[zilo]

Originally Posted by ltd

As for idiots locking kids in cars - no excuse. It's more about your convenience than anything else, as getting kids in and out takes time. Stop being selfish and do the right thing..

Cool...I'll pass your suggestion to the neighbours who will be all too glad to unbuckle ALL 4 KIDS every time they go to pay for fuel it will be challenging for mum who might find it interesting holding onto 3 kids with a baby capsule in one hand....hope she doesn't need two litres of milk.

Originally Posted by ltd

This summer, I plan to carry a nice big hammer in the car to smash any window on any car with a child locked inside.

Wouldn't try that in parts of Geelong buddy, cause unless you have a great dental plan on your health insurance, you won't have any front teeth left from all the people you help.

But then this is the internet and people crap on about how heroic they are in real life.....

[data_mine]

Originally Posted by zilo

Cool...I'll pass your suggestion to the neighbours who will be all too glad to unbuckle ALL 4 KIDS every time they go to pay for fuel it will be challenging for mum who might find it interesting holding onto 3 kids with a baby capsule in one hand....hope she doesn't need two litres of milk.




Wouldn't try that in parts of Geelong buddy, cause unless you have a great dental plan on your health insurance, you won't have any front teeth left from all the people you help.

But then this is the internet and people crap on about how heroic they are in real life.....

yeah they do.

[b0son]

Originally Posted by ltd

As for idiots locking kids in cars - no excuse.

Even in a shaded servo? Strikes me more as a means preventing judgement from others than doing anything tangible for the child's safety.

[ltd]

Originally Posted by b0son

Even in a shaded servo? Strikes me more as a means preventing judgement from others than doing anything tangible for the child's safety.

How many times have we heard stories of cars having been stolen with a baby or toddler in the back?
How many times has there been stories of child abduction?
I for one would never be happy leaving a child in a car for any period of time, if I need to get petrol I simply get someone else to go in the car with me, and they can mind the kids when I go into the store with the engine - Air Conditioning running.
Not saying in this instance there's imminent danger of theft or abduction and I admit the numbers of these occurrences are small but these occurrences do happen.
You do what you feel prudent to do but don't whinge when someone smashes your window on the day you were perhaps a little remiss.

[ltd]

Originally Posted by zilo

Cool...I'll pass your suggestion to the neighbours who will be all too glad to unbuckle ALL 4 KIDS every time they go to pay for fuel it will be challenging for mum who might find it interesting holding onto 3 kids with a baby capsule in one hand....hope she doesn't need two litres of milk.




Wouldn't try that in parts of Geelong buddy, cause unless you have a great dental plan on your health insurance, you won't have any front teeth left from all the people you help.

But then this is the internet and people crap on about how heroic they are in real life.....

[b0son]

Originally Posted by ltd

How many times have we heard stories of cars having been stolen with a baby or toddler in the back?

And how many of those was the car unlocked and the keys left in the car?

How many times has there been stories of child abduction?

And how many times did it end up being something sinister involving one of the parents?

You do what you feel prudent to do but don't whinge when someone smashes your window on the day you were perhaps a little remiss.

If someone cant tell what conditions are fine and what conditions are not, they're more stupid than the person they think they're saving the child from.

[SB076]

I have three kids (all under 5) In summer if my wives car needs petrol I will take it out and fill it up (leaving the kids at home with my wife) Personally I wouldn't smash windows at a servo, however shopping centre, casino I would.

[LoudPipes]

A US father has been accused of using the practice of leaving a child in a hot car as a means to commit murder.
Different to someone who leaves their child in the car to go to the shops I know but not much different to spending hours at a casino without the actual intent to injure or kill.
It’s almost impossible to believe someone could intentionally do such a thing.

Sexting dad who left son in car could face death penalty
5th September, 2014

A US father could face the death penalty after allegedly leaving his toddler son in a hot car for seven hours to die while he sexted teenagers.

Ross Harris, from Georgia, has been indicted with the murder of his 22-month-old son Cooper, the New York Daily News reports.

Harris, 33, initially told police his son’s death was a terrible accident and that he had forgotten he was in the backseat.

But police arrested the father the same night on June 18, saying his story did not ring true.

Harris is now facing eight charges relating to Cooper’s death including malice murder, felony murder and cruelty to children.

The father told police he planned to drop his son off at his childcare centre but after the pair had eaten breakfast he forgot he was in the car and went to work instead.

He said he found the boy seven hours later, but police allege the timing does not add up.

A police detective testified in July that Harris sexted several women, including teenagers, while he was at work that day.

Harris made online searches before Cooper’s death about how long an animal would take to die in an overheated car.

The father said he made the searches because leaving Cooper in a hot car was his biggest fear.

Read more at http://www.9news.com.au/world/2014/09/05/09/15/sexting-dad-who-left-son-in-car-could-face-death-penalty#7zx1g8mWQgeGUoXS.99

[NTF6]

These things are really good at breaking window glass if need be and fit nicely in the glove box of your car:

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Woodstock...ff8557c&_uhb=1

[ford71V8]

While I'm not a big fan of leaving animals and kids in hot cars to die, I'm a bit surprised so many people are driving around with specifically chosen tools to smash other peoples windows

[Itsme]

Originally Posted by NTF6

These things are really good at breaking window glass if need be and fit nicely in the glove box of your car:

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Woodstock...ff8557c&_uhb=1

Mmmm I wonder what other activities you must get up to have one of those in your car!

[NTF6]

Originally Posted by ford71V8

While I'm not a big fan of leaving animals and kids in hot cars to die, I'm a bit surprised so many people are driving around with specifically chosen tools to smash other peoples windows

I actually don't have one, just stating that they are are a handy tool for breaking glass windows whether it be in your car upside down in a creek or a river!

You'd be surprised at how tough side windows can be, I saw a criminal type throw a brick at a side window not too long ago and it bounced off and hit him in the head (karma), leaving the window intact.

[NTF6]

Originally Posted by trublu

Mmmm I wonder what other activities you must get up to have one of those in your car!

Working for the department of justice all of my social activities are perfectly legal..!!!

[ford71V8]

Originally Posted by NTF6

I actually don't have one, just stating that they are are a handy tool for breaking glass windows whether it be in your car upside down in a creek or a river!

You'd be surprised at how tough side windows can be, I saw a criminal type throw a brick at a side window not too long ago and it bounced off and hit him in the head (karma), leaving the window intact.

Wasn't directed solely at your post -

I still have no idea how my rear windscreen (71 Falcon) was able to smashed into a zillion pieces many years ago. I came back to my parked car to find the whole thing concaving in towards the back seat. The only suspicion I had was freshly cut lawn close by so all I've got is the possibility of a stone thrown from blades hitting the sweet spot. Wasn't easy finding a good replacement, even then.

[noflac52]

Originally Posted by teak81

I don't always get my children out of the car, but I also leave it running with the aircon on. And will only do it if car is in line of sight, and if I'm only going to be a minute or two. Never for extended periods. I also take the keypad with me so I can lock the doors but leave the key in the ignition. Still illegal.

This one is fraught with danger if there is an enterprising thief lurking just waiting for an easy opportunity to get a free ride!

[08G63T]

Originally Posted by noflac52

This one is fraught with danger if there is an enterprising thief lurking just waiting for an easy opportunity to get a free ride!

I believe in NSW, you can't be more than 3m away from a running car.

[xxx000]

Originally Posted by 08G63T

I believe in NSW, you can't be more than 3m away from a running car.

I'm more than 3m away from a running car now, better go out in the street and find myself one quickly

the running car also has to be the one you're in charge of driving at the time

[08G63T]

Originally Posted by xxx000

I'm more than 3m away from a running car now, better go out in the street and find myself one quickly

the running car also has to be the one you're in charge of driving at the time

Well played

[The Yeti]

I cant believe this is still happening in this day and age
https://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/wa...om-locked-car/

[XB GS 351 Coupe]

Was just a news story on today about security guards rescuing a child out of a car.

People are retarded....

[wodahs]

totally agree why lock a kid , or even a pet in a car at any time for any reason

another thing that got my goat about todays episode was the great security guard saving the child smashing a window to get to them but out of all the windows to smash he picked the one that the child was sitting next to showering the child with class

[Carrion]

Sooooo Sad when this happens

Hope it never happens again.

[russellw]

Originally Posted by XB GS 351 Coupe

People are retarded....

So it's now acceptable to ridicule those with disabilities is it? Once again, you've proven exactly what you are.

Russ

[The Yeti]

Originally Posted by XB GS 351 Coupe

Was just a news story on today about security guards rescuing a child out of a car.

they possibly could have chosen a different window to smash, urgency and adrenaline tends to put the blinders on at times. Personally I couldn't care which window they smashed as long as the little one was out of danger