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In that vid with Mulally they said it's a few hundred dollars profit for the small cars as opposed to over $25,000 profit for the F trucks.
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Small cars aren't really that much cheaper to make than large cars, but large cars sell for a hell of a lot more. Shows that the profit margins on large cars are so much higher, and also shows why Ford could not make any money making the next Focus.
Australia builds large cars for a reason. They could not survive making small cars. |
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Unless you know the costing of both cars, you can’t say for sure that the small carhas a smaller margin!! You could be right, but you dont know is my point!! |
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Of course Australia can build small cars. All of the investment decisions in the past were built on the notion that people buy large cars as it was the biggest segment and you could make the most money from it. Toyota stopped the Corolla as in the early 90s they were only selling small cars at 0 profit to rental fleets and others. Now there is 50% more Corollas being sold and many of them to high profit private buyers. Mazda 3 is the biggest selling private car on the market, bang right in the Focus segment. I bet Commodore or Falcon arnt even in the top ten. Even Burela said it was a travesty that Australian car makers do not make small cars with the way the market changed. I guess he didnt feel comfortable securing local production with the Focus and its derivatives such as Kuga, hybrid, electric and Focus ute when there were doubts with the next gen Falcon not being approved or confirmed which would of made the whole project unviable if Falcon was no longer being produced. With Focus secured and Falcon scrapped it would of made the whole process more messy than going to a straight import status like Mazda or Nissan. |
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the change is Mullally's edict: "Every vehicle Ford sells will make a profit, period." |
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http://www.theage.com.au/small-busin...0621-yrke.html
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Well Ford had a good month in New Zealand, being the best selling maker with the Falcon, Territory and Mondeo in the top ten!
http://www.aa.co.nz/motoring/news/Do...ales_stats.pdf |
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Toyota owners stay loyal
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Some interesting data there in terms of the Ford brand loyalty - it certainly hasn't slipped as much as Holden has but at less than half it isn't good.
Also worth noting is the improvement in the figures for Hyundai (no doubt a result of improving product and quality) and the fact that Mitsubishi has remained steady despite the well publicised woes. Cheers Russ
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GMHolden's Korean-isation with 2nd rate Daewoo models is making them drop the most. They were 57% and now have 46% versus Ford which were at 46% and are now at 42%. Ford will by offering better vehicles rise again. It just takes time.
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Read in todays Herald Sun that so far this year Ford has made 21,873 Falcons and Holden has made 23,972 Commodores.
You would be willing to bet Ford has sold more Falcon sedans than Holden Commodore sedans. Who knows the Falcon may take the lead between to the 2 later this year, not that it would really matter as Ford are comfortable selling the Falcon the way it is and Holden seem intent on keeping the Commodore in the No. 1 sales spot no matter what the cost to them. |
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I think Falcon will have a big month in June, Territory numbers seem to have been sacrificed and FG production has increased a fair bit.
Maybe Ford have realised they are getting pretty close to the Commodore and may be having a crack at knocking it off, at least I hope so anyway. |
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I have heard thats the reason they have given some of the other truck brands the boot for there bigger stuff...
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