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20-11-2006, 01:57 PM
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Hey. I was wondering at what point do you need to upgrade your alternator, get a second battery or add a capasitor?
At the moment Im running a pretty standard set up. Cd headunit 4 6"'s 500wrms response amp 12" clarion 300wrms I was just asking because when the engine is idling and a big boom of bass comes throught it sounds as if the engine idle drops very slightly. |
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20-11-2006, 02:00 PM
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a cap will only help with a big bass note, then need time to charge, so a barage if bass notes and you will still run out of amps.
what car do you have, you might not have many options anyway.
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20-11-2006, 02:00 PM
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You shouldn'r need either with 500RMS.
What size cable are you using for the amp and where are you earthing it?
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20-11-2006, 02:10 PM
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The earth is in the bottom on the rightside behind the carpet somewhere. I didnt do most of the wiring it was done when i bought the car (power, Ground and RCA's). The cable size would be around the 600w? range. The smaller of the two wiring kits you can buy i think.
Ive seen plenty of cars with audio systems the same or bigger than mine without any changes to the alt. or addings capasitors. Ive seen they're lights diming a little but i just noticed the engine revs dropping a little when the car was idling. Its not allot i noticed because i was under the bonnet anyway. Car is an EF. |
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20-11-2006, 02:12 PM
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I suggest trace the wires to point of origin and make sure they havent put like 0 guage at the amp to look good but it connects to a way smaller guage at the battery.
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20-11-2006, 02:13 PM
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Might also pay to up the battery to motor earth from the standard one as well, and make a decent earth from battery to body.
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20-11-2006, 02:32 PM
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Yeah the cables are the same the whole way, Connections are good. Ill Look into upgrading the grounds.
Also, im having problems with the car stalling occationaly. I think ive rulled out the sound system. But Im going to clean the ISC but i doubt that would have anything to do with the slight current drop. |
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20-11-2006, 02:37 PM
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you hear what you think is a current drop, could be a struggling alt in need of rebuild run a multimeter on the battery and watch the voltage.
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20-11-2006, 02:45 PM
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Will do, Ill get back to you on that. I might open it up and give the brushes a clean etc. Ive seen some people do it a few times (use to work in an auto elec. place for a couple weeks). If not a new one is about $130 i think.
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20-11-2006, 03:29 PM
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i earthed my 700wrms amp to the battery - in my EF, had no such problems. using 4 guage wiring.
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20-11-2006, 04:32 PM
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I'm assuming your running 8 gauge cable to your amp? If you are that should be fine for a setup like yours. It all depends on the load your amp is powering and how much current it is drawing from the battery/alternator. When you start powering multiple subs and running amps at low impedance loads like 1ohm, then you'll have to start looking at upgrading batteries etc.
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20-11-2006, 05:44 PM
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my setup is: 2 x 12" subs 250wrms 4 ohm each
700wrms amp on 2 ohm load - 350wrms to each sub 4 guage (10mm) earthed to battery no problems. i think ur alternator may some attention or possibly a better quality battery.
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