Will the Holden brand survive?

[jpd80]

Originally Posted by Express

I would have thought it was more of a case of GM calling the Government's bluff on funding as GM had long wanted out of Aussie manufacturing and only needed a reason so as not to look like the total bad guy.

The funding debacle offered the perfect excuse.
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Remember that before Ford announced its closure, Holden had announced
a grandiose local manufacturing plan that went beyond 2020.......
So this horse crap about Holden always wanting to leave was just not true,
they like Ford found ways to extend their time here until they couldn't anymore..

Barely twelve months after Ford called it quits, all of that had changed as the
attitude of governments supporting local manufacture turned toxic on the back
of incessant Murdoch press badgering about governments supporting car companies.

[b0son]

Originally Posted by jpd80

Remember that before Ford announced its closure, Holden had announced
a grandiose local manufacturing plan that went beyond 2020.......

But they also accepted a huge government subsidy from the Rudd government in 2013 in return for staying until 2020, and came back with cap in hand barely 18 months later.

Take their promises with a grain of salt.

What I find amusing is that Holden have committed to supporting Supercars til the end of 2021, yet the writing on the wall says Holden will be lucky if it makes it to the end of 2020. I hope Supercars have a backup plan....

[cheap]

Hopefully their garbage adds will disappear from YouTube too.’

[hayseed]

Originally Posted by cheap

Hopefully their garbage adds will disappear from YouTube too.’

And all the paid "advertorials" on every Car related Website....

[jpd80]

Originally Posted by b0son

But they also accepted a huge government subsidy from the Rudd government in 2013 in return for staying until 2020, and came back with cap in hand barely 18 months later.

Take their promises with a grain of salt.

What I find amusing is that Holden have committed to supporting Supercars til the end of 2021, yet the writing on the wall says Holden will be lucky if it makes it to the end of 2020. I hope Supercars have a backup plan....

I think we can agree that Holden’s forward commitments relied heavily on government funding and when that was withdrawn, Holden was sunk.

[Express]

Originally Posted by jpd80

Remember that before Ford announced its closure, Holden had announced
a grandiose local manufacturing plan that went beyond 2020.......
So this horse crap about Holden always wanting to leave was just not true,
they like Ford found ways to extend their time here until they couldn't anymore..

Barely twelve months after Ford called it quits, all of that had changed as the
attitude of governments supporting local manufacture turned toxic on the back
of incessant Murdoch press badgering about governments supporting car companies.

Lots of announcements never bear fruit.

Announcing and doing are two totally different things in the manufacturing game.

Just a deflection for more funding.

Australia's small population makes it difficult to be profitable in any form of manufacturing when faced with a myriad of competition.

Recent revolving door personnel at the pointy end shows GM weren't serious about keeping up the charade otherwise they would have fixed that problem for stability sake.




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[jpd80]

Originally Posted by Express

Lots of announcements never bear fruit.

Announcing and doing are two totally different things in the manufacturing game.

Just a deflection for more funding.

Australia's small population makes it difficult to be profitable in any form of manufacturing when faced with a myriad of competition.

Recent revolving door personnel at the pointy end shows GM weren't serious about keeping up the charade otherwise they would have fixed that problem for stability sake.
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All I'm saying is that the notion that Holden was planning to leave since the 1990s is rubbish, All the indications were that up until the announcement by Ford, Holden had every intention of staying put but what really put the skids under them was withdrawal of government funding. Once that funding was ended, their plans were shot.