AU V8 models: Basic questions answered! - Page 2

**SSD-85** · 28-12-2008, 09:48 PM

It's really strange, because mine has all the indictations of a 220 (incl. build date), bar the different engine cover.

b2tf · 28-12-2008, 10:14 PM

Engine covers are easy to change so I wouldnt be relying on it to determine whether it's a 200 or 220 spec engine.

**SSD-85** · 28-12-2008, 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by b2tf

Engine covers are easy to change so I wouldnt be relying on it to determine whether it's a 200 or 220 spec engine.

I know, it's just odd that the decal isnt on it despite it being a 220 engine, just a curiousity

WillyG351c · 31-12-2008, 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by WeHaveIgnition

It's really strange, because mine has all the indictations of a 220 (incl. build date), bar the different engine cover.

my dad took delivery of his au2 xr8 in july 01, it was the first 220kw version delivered to Kloster ford in newcastle. it didnt have any 220kw badges on it when he took delivery but when it went back for its first service they put the badge on the boot but not the sticker on the engine cover!
it also had the alloy ford racing heads like the t series had not the iron gt40p heads. id say it was a left over t-series engine!

**CAT600** · 22-02-2009, 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by WillyG351c

my dad took delivery of his au2 xr8 in july 01, it was the first 220kw version delivered to Kloster ford in newcastle. it didnt have any 220kw badges on it when he took delivery but when it went back for its first service they put the badge on the boot but not the sticker on the engine cover!
it also had the alloy ford racing heads like the t series had not the iron gt40p heads. id say it was a left over t-series engine!

Not saying it is impossible, but what you have reported is very very unlikely, because the alloy headed 220 production stopped in early March 2001 (halfway through the T2 run), and the cast iron 220's in XR8's did not kick off until the second half of the year.

How an alloy headed 220 motor sat around for over three months and then finally found its way into an XR8 is beyond me, especially since the T2's had been getting cast iron headed engines for that whole time.

Possibly a T1 TS50 warranty engine that had been misplaced in the production line?

Daniel

RG · 22-02-2009, 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by CAT600

Not saying it is impossible, but what you have reported is very very unlikely, because the alloy headed 220 production stopped in early March 2001 (halfway through the T2 run), and the cast iron 220's in XR8's did not kick off until the second half of the year.

How an alloy headed 220 motor sat around for over three months and then finally found its way into an XR8 is beyond me, especially since the T2's had been getting cast iron headed engines for that whole time.

Possibly a T1 TS50 warranty engine that had been misplaced in the production line?

Daniel

Daniel there have been a few reports of alloy headed XR8's by a few people. Too many to dismiss and too few to say it was the norm.

Left over heads, warranty left overs and the like sounds the most plausible.

**CAT600** · 22-02-2009, 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Russell

Daniel there have been a few reports of alloy headed XR8's by a few people. Too many to dismiss and too few to say it was the norm.

Left over heads, warranty left overs and the like sounds the most plausible.

Fair enough, and i suppose this adds weight to what I was saying with respect to the same engine calibration being spread out across the whole 220kw engine run, and how in turn, some cast iron headed 220's have issues with pinging.

Daniel

JC · 23-02-2009, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by CAT600

Not saying it is impossible, but what you have reported is very very unlikely, because the alloy headed 220 production stopped in early March 2001 (halfway through the T2 run), and the cast iron 220's in XR8's did not kick off until the second half of the year.

How an alloy headed 220 motor sat around for over three months and then finally found its way into an XR8 is beyond me, especially since the T2's had been getting cast iron headed engines for that whole time.

Possibly a T1 TS50 warranty engine that had been misplaced in the production line?

Daniel

While the heads may have been the "feature" difference, wouldn't tune, MAF callibration, TB etc all be different too (maybe not TB)?

**CAT600** · 23-02-2009, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by JC

While the heads may have been the "feature" difference, wouldn't tune, MAF callibration, TB etc all be different too (maybe not TB)?

That is sort of where I am going with this, I just cannot understand how Ford/Tickford would let it slip through the net. The MAF-Injector calibration (MAF Transfer) would be the same as would the TB, but the tune may or may not be.

Daniel

Grobbo · 25-02-2009, 02:18 PM

Sorry can someone please tell me the size of the intake tube on my AUII XR8 ute (200kw) Is it 3 inch or 3.5 inch? (the tubing after the airbox)

Thanks!

5.0 ED · 28-12-2008, 10:15 PM

there was no 5.6litre TL50's produced i believe.

b2tf · 28-12-2008, 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by 5.0whiteaughia

there was no 5.6litre TL50's produced i believe.

3 made, 2 accounted for on these very forums.

**Peuty** · 28-12-2008, 10:15 PM

As b2tf said, engine covers tend to rub and get trashed easily, so it wouldn't be out of the question for it to have been replaced at some stage.

tud184 · 28-12-2008, 10:36 PM

Is the 347 the biggest stroker kit you can get for the 5ltr windsor

b2tf · 28-12-2008, 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by tud184

Is the 347 the biggest stroker kit you can get for the 5ltr windsor

No you can get 363 also

RG · 28-12-2008, 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by b2tf

No you can get 363 also

But only with an aftermarket block if you want to drive further than around the block.

XYGTHO · 10-03-2010, 06:48 PM

So what is the difference between the series 2 200kw abd 220kw motor? What is involved to produce the extra 20kw?
Would it put most people off buying a 200kw S2 rather than a 220kw S2?
Surely an exhaust and few mods would see you past 220kw anyhow.

Grobbo · 02-06-2010, 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by XYGTHO

So what is the difference between the series 2 200kw abd 220kw motor? What is involved to produce the extra 20kw?
Would it put most people off buying a 200kw S2 rather than a 220kw S2?
Surely an exhaust and few mods would see you past 220kw anyhow.

They've got better flowing heads and a few bits and bobs.

Some of the very first ones had pretty trick alloy ones I think, then they started making 'em out of steel, which added a bit more weight, but performance was the same.

Yeah you can get past 220 no probs with an exhaust and stuff, but do the same mods to the 220 and you'll always be at least 20kw, if not more, ahead.

The average punter may not care much about the difference but anyone who's into modding cars would want the 220 - it revs a bit smoother etc...

Fish Fingers · 18-06-2010, 12:20 PM

I have recently purchased a 1999 AU Fairlane Ghia. 135,000km, 5L Windsor, LPG. I am considering putting an exhaust on it. Have read in this thread that a gain of around 10kw can be achieved via a twin exhaust. Is a twin the way to go or could I get a similar result from a larger single?

FTe_XR8 · 28-12-2008, 11:13 PM

are the runours true about the 250's not actually being 347 but really 342......

b2tf · 28-12-2008, 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by 3x-puursui7

are the runours true about the 250's not actually being 347 but really 342......

yes all 5.6 T3 strokers are 342 c.i. not 347.

**DJM83** · 31-12-2008, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by 3x-puursui7

are the runours true about the 250's not actually being 347 but really 342......

Correct not actually a rumour but fact

rosco426 · 31-12-2008, 08:39 PM

So did all XR's have GT40P heads? Was there a difference between the heads from Series 1 -3? Bigger valves etc?

**Peuty** · 31-12-2008, 08:50 PM

Yes they all had GT40P heads, however, the 220kw Windsors got some massaging from Yella Terra.

RG · 01-01-2009, 12:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Peuty

Yes they all had GT40P heads, however, the 220kw Windsors got some massaging from Yella Terra.

Bigger valves and a little massage.

sbcb · 01-01-2009, 06:47 PM

All AU V8s had the GT40P heads, Faimonts etc also.

dreadly · 01-01-2009, 06:59 PM

My oil filters have alway been Motorcraft AFL 1 MC? And it's a 200kw... and thats as big or bigger than Ryco Z89 ;)

RG · 22-02-2009, 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by dreadly

My oil filters have alway been Motorcraft AFL 1 MC? And it's a 200kw... and thats as big or bigger than Ryco Z89 ;)

Just noticed this post, what's that got to do with anything? The AFL1 is a Z9. The Z89A is a half length Z9 and is needed to clear the oil cooler.

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Originally Posted by david_100

thought id just add.. x2500 AUIII XR8 utes where sold with 220kw engines as stock,

Not this again lol. NO AU Utes had the 220kw engine. This has been well looked into, just ask b2tf.

david_100 · 22-02-2009, 03:24 AM

thought id just add.. x2500 AUIII XR8 utes where sold with 220kw engines as stock,

JC · 22-02-2009, 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by david_100

thought id just add.. x2500 AUIII XR8 utes where sold with 220kw engines as stock,

What are you basing this misinformation on? The hand built plates stuck to the rocker covers perhaps? All 200kw engines have that from AU2 onwards, and the utes only ever got the 185 up to AU2 then 200kw. The sedans are the only true XRs

which is why they got the 220 jobbie in AU3.

Still, I (and a lot of others) would be interested to see what you base your statement on.