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24-03-2010, 11:11 PM | #1 | ||
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This is brilliant, didn't know its possible to register what used to be half a car as a trailer. I'd love one made of a Ford Territory. If its got seatbelts,etc, any reason why it can't be used to carry passengers as well? |
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24-03-2010, 11:16 PM | #2 | ||
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probably coz it's unbelievably dangerous... still a cool idea for other stuff tho.
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24-03-2010, 11:31 PM | #3 | ||
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Haaa looks good, what would that weigh 5-600kg? Would work well as a promotional rig... certainly an attention seeker!
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24-03-2010, 11:34 PM | #4 | ||
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Crash tested (Bit of fun ) -
It would be good as a mini camper though.
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25-03-2010, 02:24 AM | #5 | |||
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I always considered doing that with an entire stretch limousine. Would be a great way to get all my mates to the beach if I could somehow get it registered.
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25-03-2010, 08:53 AM | #6 | |||
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25-03-2010, 09:12 AM | #7 | |||
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As for carrying passengers - care to take a wild guess? |
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25-03-2010, 09:16 AM | #8 | |||
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How cool would it look dumped with some big wheels!
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25-03-2010, 09:18 AM | #9 | |||
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Because it is unbelievably illegal to carry passengers in any form of trailer.
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25-03-2010, 09:26 AM | #10 | ||
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a bloke on the jeep forums built himself a camper trailer of similar construction!
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25-03-2010, 09:27 AM | #11 | |||
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Now that is very cool.
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25-03-2010, 10:58 AM | #12 | ||
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i've always thought there would be a market for a nice looking trailer (ie styled) that would complement the tow vehicle, instead of the typical box shape with square mudguards. i even think you could make a simple drop on fibreglass shell onto the normal type trailer.
around here you often see ute beds redone as trailers. (eg old mazdas)
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25-03-2010, 11:17 AM | #13 | |||
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25-03-2010, 12:00 PM | #14 | ||
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Good point GTP006.
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25-03-2010, 12:08 PM | #15 | |||
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Are they technically a trailer though? I thought they were attached pretty well to the bus.
It is a good point nonetheless. If you could attach the back half of a car to the back of a ute to a high enough standard I'm sure you could get it registered somehow.
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25-03-2010, 12:14 PM | #16 | ||
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Hard call to make really, we used to call them a trailer and they are very well attached, however they technically an articulated vehicle, not like a prime mover & trailer.
The engine & trans is mounted in the rear of the trailer, the trailer & mid axles are both driven. |
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25-03-2010, 12:19 PM | #17 | |||
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So would it technically be possible to make an "articulated vehicle" out of two cars, with the rear one having nothing forward of the firewall?
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25-03-2010, 12:39 PM | #18 | ||
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OMG, that is soooooo brilliant (both the EF wagon and the Jeep trailers)!!!
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25-03-2010, 08:24 PM | #19 | |||
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The closest I've seen on the light vehicle scale was an auxiliary drive trailer. Pretty sure it was ex-british army, the trailer had a diff rather than a box axle, a tailshaft followed the drawbar to the trailer hitch where it hooked into a PTO setup that was driven by a shaft that came out of the back of the vehicles diff. A mate used to own one of these trailers, he'd set it up as a camp kitchen and dragged it around behind an old Land Rover troop carrier. |
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25-03-2010, 08:41 PM | #20 | |||||
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Good luck getting anything with a draw bar registered for passenger use on australian roads. Quote:
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25-03-2010, 08:41 PM | #21 | ||
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Guy on Fordmods made that, it was pretty heavy IRC (over 500kg), and seeing as its not braked, GVM would be only 750kg.
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25-03-2010, 08:50 PM | #22 | |||
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So, yes you could have people in a half car trailer, as long as you are only operating in an area of road works.
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25-03-2010, 08:52 PM | #23 | ||
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in perth here we have a tourist "Tram" its a purpose built bus I suppose you could call it, but the rear carrage is just towed exactly like a trailer and can carry quite a lot of people.
Click on the link to see the tram (I cant be bothered inserting a picture, too much work) perth tram picture
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25-03-2010, 09:10 PM | #24 | |||
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25-03-2010, 10:02 PM | #25 | ||
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i was told , but don`t take this as gospel, that trailers are`nt allowed to run diffs, i have no proof of this but that is what i was told, the reason being that trailer are frequently lacking in maintenance also like caravans, you see them on the side of the road missing wheels , due to bearing collapse etc,etc, for diff equipped due to the possibility of axle and wheel coming out of a diff and causeing danger to people diffs are a no no, perhaps someone can dispel or confirm?
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25-03-2010, 10:46 PM | #26 | |||
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25-03-2010, 11:16 PM | #27 | |||
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Yes but it would be special use registration, If you want to make a trailer with seats and registered to carry passengers, then only operate in a certain area with a very low speed limit, cool. Not exactly the application the trailer in the OP is designed for, which is what raised the question about passengers.
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25-03-2010, 11:25 PM | #28 | |||
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25-03-2010, 11:34 PM | #29 | |||
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Yes it is, but a different application and one not likely to be achieved for private use, only specialised commercial use. But you are right, the use of a draw bar might not have been the best way to term it. The end result is it would be spectacularly expensive and difficult to achieve legally and why would you bother? Although I guess you would not hear the kids fighting or screaming for ice cream, good on long trips.
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25-03-2010, 11:57 PM | #30 | ||
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Jeez guys, a licenced and purpose built (and probably with a bundle of special permits to go along with it not to mention a HC or MC licence for the driver) passenger motor carrier is a completely different kettle of fish to some clown driving around in his passenger car towing a trailer that has people in it. It's illegal for a good reason.
Oh and those dinky kiddie trains in places like Whiteman Park or the showgrounds no doubt get a special dispensation because they only travel at something like 12km/h A better idea is a proper enclosed, lockable box trailer like the Stockman Pod trailer just nowhere near as stupidly priced.
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