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Seems promising to have a new competitor enter the market who may offer bigger engines with more performance. |
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Could be a good competitor in the market.
The current stock of Hyundais are pretty good quality and great warranty periods.
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Mustang GT mmmmmm......
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The concept photo looks like it was styled by ten designers who never got to talk to each other.
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Will be interesting how it is priced.If they can keep it around $50-60k optioned up it will really give the upper priced Rangers a real stir up.Realistically the Koreans can build better cars than Thailand.
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204kw/588Nm 3.0l i6 under stressed diesel.
Not sure about the rear end look or the high end version front treatments, but the white one, which I assume is mid spec, looks the goods. |
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It reminds me of the current Triton styling.
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![]() That's probably going to be a moot point though because Thailand specials aren't exactly the most accurate vehicles in the steering department anyway |
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I've been told we are getting a caravan to do the lap of Oz... The Hyundai's I've driven, I have not enjoyed.
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It understeers more than a WF Festiva - which is a 20+ year old car designed and built by Kia with a Mazda engine and a Ford badge slapped on it. |
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I'm not buying that crap! I'd rather maintain my WJ Jeep!
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You old blokes need to get over the Hyundai/Kia’s are crap mentality.
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We asked him if the engine had actually been called “Seagull” and how that came about. “Actually it was just call “Gull”, because I named it that. Because we knew it was going to poo on everything”. |
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The only one they have ever made that would be considered good in that regard would be the i30N. |
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Why do people expect SUV's and Utes to handle like sport cars?
More competition is a good thing.
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Then they get behind the wheel of the Thailand specials or Korean special SUVs and wonder where it all went wrong. The only SUV manufacturers who make a decent handling SUV are BMW and Mercedes and they're HSV Silverado spondoolies for the povvo spec models. The Falcon ute drives like a car, the Thailand Specials drive like a Toyota Dyna without the benefits of the small truck features. Maybe I'm just not too happy to settle for mediocrity. |
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From what I understand by the time the Hyundai ute is ready for production it won't be built in Korea anyhow - I believe they're opening an Indonesian plant.
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And there are options, but people are too cheap to take them. Then default to the Koreans and complain that they are not BMW's. Thank Christ this isnt a Chinese ute review, there would be URL's everywhere.
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If you consider finish,reliability and resale value, the Korean is probably ahead of the Gerry built
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The biggest problem is people set in their ways, getting in a Hyundai or Kia they expect so much more than what is on offer. They then get into a Mazda or ford and think,” yep this is how it should be” even though the Hyundai or Kia is just as good.
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That puts it on even footing with all of the 4x2 cab chassis Thailand specials? The reason the Thailand specials steer and handle like **** is because they're cheaply designed rubbish sold at huge profit margins, it has nothing to do with the type of vehicle. It steers like **** because the manufacturers want them to steer like ****. They've even still got drum brakes on the rear axle. You realise the Territory was benchmarked on the BMW X5 right? It was also around the same price as it's Korean counterparts. The URLs you didn't even read ![]() Last edited by Franco Cozzo; 04-05-2020 at 03:03 PM. |
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a Guy at my work has one he replaced the crap noisy tyres it had with a set of continentals, it still rides like crap.
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Everyone knew we would loose some qualities when the locals left, but we have also gained in some areas aswell. Its a completely different chassis type so while it may share its 4x2 configuration the non falcon/commy utes need to be designed off a common platform. So no its still not really a straight comparison. Manufacturers want them to steer like poo? I dont think so, they meet minimum requirements and then a competitive market works it out from there. What test shows drums on the rear is insufficient? Your comparison reads like Jeremy Clarkson on crack, they are basic commercial vehicles designed to to basic things. But you will notice the distinct lack of other manufactures making pickups that handle "Well". And while I CBF looking up historical figures, the Territory back in the day would have been more expensive that the Korean equivalent, and when it wasnt it was because Ford were desperate to move as much as they could and clear the stock. So if your really keen do a price comparison from the first 5 years of the Territory's existence. How do I know? I test drove and was around when they were developing them, I dont think you want to go down the "dont you realise" path. So anyway, the GT86 as a hatch and so does the AMG GT, curse that 86 for being such a gutless wonder. You are right on one thing, I didnt click on the URL's.
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You can't win.. when they put coils in the rear of the Ranger Raptor people complained about its towing capacity.
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Doesn't take a genius to realise when it was 6 minutes between my post and your reply and yet you still put your 2 cents in without any information, aside from vested interest.
Don't worry you'll also be used in the CCP labour camp then off to the slaughterhouse to get your organs harvested, regardless of your sympathy for the CCP. |
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So we are not still talking about utes? For a bloke that pedals parts from China your view point is interesting.
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The problem with Hyundai's reputation is that constantly people say things like "Oh yeah those old Sonata's are crap, ix35's crap etc."
They don't seem to say an awful amount about the current crop of vehicles - this is because as time goes by they get better and better as a brand. I was with a Toyota dealer from 06-14 and have been involved with Hyundai dealerships since 2017 and the product is excellent and getting better. The current gen Santa Fe is a prime example of this... and things are continuing. Check out the new Kia Sorento for proof! And even with the ix35 - dating back to this vehicle it was smashing numbers out at its peak.
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Falcon cab chassis Ute is considered an LCV by VicRoads, has a similar payload to the 4x2 Thailand specials. The reason Thailand specials are made as body on frame and with rear drums is that it's cheap, when did drum brakes disappear from passenger cars? Sometime in the 1960s that discs became optional. Even modern prime movers and their trailers have disc brakes on them these days. What sort of car enthusiasts are happy to pay through the roof for a cheaply designed product that's slow and turns and handles like absolute crap? If it wasn't for the federal government giving large tax incentives on Thailand specials they'd never be as popular as they became. Last edited by Franco Cozzo; 04-05-2020 at 05:31 PM. |
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Franco you complain that the Thai specials Steer and handle like **** because of they are cheaply made etc.. However a Toyota Hilux Workmate starts at about $22k excl on roads. A Falcon ute back in their final years started from about $29k excl on roads. Many going for these types of cars are not gonna care how they steer or handle or that is has drums on the rear. They just want reliable motoring that gets the job done, and they go straight to the hilux because its so much cheaper. I agree the falcon is the superior vehicle, but you pay for that privilege. So we can't complain that the thai specials are cheaply made etc etc, because they are cheap.
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