Carbon revolution

[Bossxr8]

Originally Posted by Halba12

no one has bothered to produce them, because they are too expensive to promote adoption. E.g. $15K retail for 1 pack or option, one GT500 is $72K. its not economic.


This is not producing them at effective unit costs either and claims of scale havent been proven. Even if they mass produce them, i dont see anyone taking up 32,000 wheels per annum, the oems are small to date, annual production per car wise.

And does increasing production numbers not allow for lower per unit costs?

The whole point of scaling up is to get production numbers up high enough which will drive the costs down, making them more affordable, which in turn will increase potential customers.

If these wheels are affordable for Ford to use then all the high end sports car manufacturers can use them to, if they choose too.

As I said, it's a long game.

But keep going trying to cut them down.

You didn't answer the part about only joining up to talk them down. Do you have a personal issue with CR?

[Halba12]

Originally Posted by Bossxr8

And does increasing production numbers not allow for lower per unit costs?

The whole point of scaling up is to get production numbers up high enough which will drive the costs down, making them more affordable, which in turn will increase potential customers.

If these wheels are affordable for Ford to use then all the high end sports car manufacturers can use them to, if they choose too.

As I said, it's a long game.

But keep going trying to cut them down.

You didn't answer the part about only joining up to talk them down. Do you have a personal issue with CR?

re any claims about the costs or just wild guesses that they'll bring them down sufficiently. They havent given any figures on this. any ideas on the cost of capital to do so. its not free....



The default option for the GT500 is not carbon wheels. It is an option only. Blanket assumptions being made there- that everyone will adopt this, as Ford clearly hasnt adopted them(its not default).



re talk em down - just think people should be cautious making overly optimistic claims is all.


re competitors are coming. Also in talks with numerous OEMs.


https://www.compositesworld.com/blog...-ready-to-roll

[Bossxr8]

Originally Posted by Halba12

re any claims about the costs or just wild guesses that they'll bring them down sufficiently. They havent given any figures on this. any ideas on the cost of capital to do so. its not free....



The default option for the GT500 is not carbon wheels. It is an option only. Blanket assumptions being made there- that everyone will adopt this, as Ford clearly hasnt adopted them(its not default).



re talk em down - just think people should be cautious making overly optimistic claims is all.


re competitors are coming. Also in talks with numerous OEMs.


https://www.compositesworld.com/blog...-ready-to-roll

Did you just join to talk them down? No other posts bar these ones.