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Bathed In A Yellow Glow
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Another reason why it should not have the Commodore name and why it will tank.
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or that an Aurion if FWD to most its not important
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Yeah I get many people don't care about RWD, so why fake it to look like RWD when no one cares? And those that do care know that it's not RWD anyway. So who they trying to fool.
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Why not just say we extended the wheelbase to make it look more prestigious. IMO having wheels finish flush with the body makes it look more prestigious something Falcon & Commodore never really got the hang of. even Kia have figured this out.
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Just like Audi I guess too.
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So how should it look? there is a FWD look?
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Holden will learn a very valuable lesson the hard way soon.
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Nothing about that car tells me its RWD, nor the average punter. The average punter gives 0fks about which way it drives.
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Just rhetoric from Holden .. Again !!
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They should have already learnt the lesson from the Vectra mark 2 failure
take a reasonable selling vehicle (vectra mark 1 sold in reasonable numbers) and hike the price to what the premium competitors are selling and expect the public to think it is in the same league. customers see the holden badge and think ****** that... for the same money I can by a VW Passat or Subaru Liberty or a Skoda, Honda Accord etc.. |
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Holden aren't going to shake the current stigma in an instant. The whole (I use the term loosely) bogan image that is still current isn't going to blend well with the new range to existing customers. It won't impact the small car market. If it's cute, hair dressers will buy them regardless.
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If VW can do it with its polluting puss boxes. And attempt to do it with Skoda.
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Ah Holden, those guys crack me up! Good luck with the new GM/Vauxhall/Opel/Peugeot Insigni-commodore..
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Yes there most definitely is a FWD look, and it aint pretty. The two big giveaways are a long front overhang and the front wheel arch is hard up against the front door. Car designers try every trick in the book to avoid it. Mazda is one example with the current 3, a lot of effort was made to make it look RWD with it's cab-back design and they succeeded to a degree but at the expense of interior space.
A longer wheelbase is a new one though, haven't heard of that before and it's effectiveness is obviously questionable. Big cars have long wheel bases, small cars have short ones. Some big cars are FWD, some small cars are RWD. The Insignia is about the same length overall as the VF, but the wheel base is significantly shorter. It doesn't look anything like a RWD car. Last edited by tranquilized; 10-03-2017 at 07:46 AM. |
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![]() My Mondeo doesn't do that, and my mates mini certainly doesn't do that when he has his boot jammed in...
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Will this euro trash look come in boring black, boring white or boring sliver.
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Holden like Ford have a battle on their hands if they way to compete with prestige euro, and have to play the game on all levels including customer service way better. As we know fords saving grace ATM is ranger and to a lesser extent mustang, loose mustang or ranger and they will be really struggling, Holden on the other hand does not even have that ATM.
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It's still a Holden. Badge-conscious punters who have the money for Audi, BMW, C-class will not be buying a "Holden" when they can get a Euro-badge for same price. As Trump said, epic fail on the way.
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and how many Insignia's have they sold this year so far.....
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Mustang GT mmmmmm......
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Holden can compete with a Peugeot 508 maybe.
Oh wait it is a Peugeot already.
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G'day all , Bad enough they're sullying the name of Commodore the way they are with an impostor anyway but this is could well be mutton dressed up as lamb perhaps...Stay within your limits GMH ...Cheers Rod..
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The only people who’ll miss the old local built Commodore is the V8 crowd.
Even though I have no interest in FWD vehicles this new recruit is most likely every bit as good as the outgoing V6 variants. Will it sell? Probably not but as of yet who knows as with the right marketing and price point consumers will buy anything. . |
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