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FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: QLD - Townsville
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I posted my XR8 for sale as im no longer able to support it financially
so anyways a few thousand views and 100 clicks on my ad and some guy asks "Is there anything else i should know that isnt in the ad?" i didnt think anything of it, just answer No, thats it ,etc they tell me they need my email address to pay via paypal (which i think is fine minus the fees and it would be awesome), etc, etc i honestly dont care where the money comes from as long as its bankable this morning i get an email saying "oh forget to tell you my agent sent me an email and said he wont come to pick it up unless he pays him his agent pickup commission of x amount " - this part is fine, but im thinking its got nothing to do with me - next part of the email is its a UK company and he is going to send me $2k more and if i can help him by western unioning it to them via the post office (again Fine, im happy to still do this, but WHAT does it have to do with me) so heres the info so far communication is via email only, no phone calls payment method is i guess all online, im taking the hold up waiting for something to clear, cheque or personal loan the UK agent bit is what puts me off the question is this - lets play with these cards, what can i be stung for if i continue playing? (beside paypal fees) can paypal payments be easily withdrawn after payment is made.... ie he pays me, i cash it out (takes half a year to do so) he takes it back making some story up?? - transferring via westernunion, as long as it can actually be done at a postoffice i dont care, but is there anything that can bite me on the bum? - does anyone know if this is a scam........... and what is the outcome they are trying to achieve? - do i need to change my email password? thanks
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KEEPUP
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Geelong
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My brother had something like this happen to him when he was selling his car.
Somebody emailed him said they want the car for there agent or some crap said they dont wanna look at it just buy it and offered $4000 more than what it was advertised for same deal by pay pal. He emailed him back and gave him his phone number and said give me a call never heard from them again. So i think it is a scam so be careful I wonder if carsales are aware of this....
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FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: Dec 2005
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WHAT? i wasnt offered $4k more than posted price, what a rip!
ive let carsales know everything via email, they cant do anything but inform everyone about it i just sent him an email asking him to call me, lets see what happens
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KEEPUP
Join Date: Mar 2009
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It doesnt matter what you offered you wont get it anyway lol
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Join Date: Feb 2007
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same thing happened to my mate, they offered him an extra 4k to get it shipped to south africa through his agent they were paying by pay pal as well.
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Join Date: Jan 2005
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Western union was mentioned = scam
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Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Manly
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If it involves western union in any way what-so-ever it is a scam.
No question. Your password/account is safe. The general idea is that your bank puts the money in your account before it clears, you withdraw $2000 and give it to them, then the money doesn't clear and it is pulled by the bank from your account. You lose $2000. |
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Join Date: Sep 2007
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A good mate of mine had that happen to him, but it was on ebay.
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Join Date: Aug 2006
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I am selling my girlfriends car at the moment. I have it on eBay among other places. I had her email address on the ad, and I was getting 2 - 3 emails a day with people wanting to pay with PayPal, so I removed the email address and havent had any more requests.
Even if they pay through PayPal, you sign over the car, they ship it overseas, they can cancel the payment and tell PayPal it is not as described, blah blah, and you will somehow have to prove who picked it up, condition etc etc. You would never get the money. It is like excepting a cheque and signing over the car before it clears, they can cancel the cheque and you are left in a bad position.
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Its a scam for sure, I had a similar email when selling my Wifes car, he just wanted my email for paypal, my brother is selling his car as well and has a similar thing, different story but wanting email for paypal. Let carsales know, it only takes a minute and I'm sure they they will confirm this.
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Join Date: Oct 2005
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we've had similar things here at our dealership.
We recieved a general enquiry on the sales email some guy wanted to buy an Escape for his son as a wedding gift. He asked for the price so he could pay us and get the vehicle. The first thing that seemed odd was his english seemed off. His emails didnt make sense. Obvously english is a second language for many people but with this guy he would say things and contradict himself. Any way i smelled a rat and asked for a phone number to call him on to discuss. He kept wanting us toc charge a $5000 deposit to his credit card. However without speraking to him in person or on the phone i wasnt going to run his deposit. Anyway after numerous emails back and forth. me asking for a phone number, he wanting to organise his agent to come and handle shipping the car. I basicly accused him of being dodgy and i never heard from him again. Later we learned that people do this scam to some how launder money.
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It's a scam using stolen credit card details, they make payment and it appears in your account then you send them their 2k, the charge then gets canceled by true owner of credit card or bank and payment frozen/reversed. You get nothing but you've already sent money. Western Union is used because they can walk in off the street to receive payment with a number, question and answer. Once they walk out there's no more trail of the money and you've bought someone a lot of Nigerian goats or a trip to 'Arrods.
As an extra bonus Paypal then may freeze your account under 'suspicion of fraud' even though you are the victim. They can freeze funds for an extremely long time under their terms of service on this basis (months and months) so any other unrelated money you may have in paypal is untouchable. This frozen money then sitting in paypals big paypal account would be an nice big earner for the company.
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maybe not.....
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Yeah I wouldnt even waste my time replying to them via email..
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Join Date: Dec 2008
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Scam Scam Scam and what the hell is the go with emails??? Have people forgotten how to use a land line?
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Theres a thread on our local Motorcycle Forum in Canberra. Theres a few floating around
http://canberrariders.org.au/forum/v...103105#p103105 One member has been exchanging emails. These are the posts Quote:
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hahahahahahahah - sucked in big time........
no loss anyways, just my ego....... oh well who wants a cheap XR8?
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yeah I have heard of this poping up before, scam, who in there right mind would buy a car with out looking at it???? it either cash laundering or ripping you off. There was a write up in the paper about it last weekend or something. I would just leave it and forward to the cops or something
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I heard the paypal link in the email is fake, you end up logging onto a fake paypal login screen. They now have your paypal login details.....let's go shopping.....
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Its definately a scam.. Way of laundering money!!
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same thing happened to me a few months back when I sold the T.
I can't post my email conversation cause most words wont past the swear filter.
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If you someone wants to pay through paypal and you listed on ebay, you DONT need to send them your paypal email address anyway. they do it at the end of the auction.
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lol, and then eBay take their cut along with PayPal, so even they're making money out of you while you're being scammed :p
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hang on a minute . i have sold items and received payment with paypal , on the condition that the money is cleared and in my bank, before shipping item . i dont understand why you would take part payment and then allow the car to be gone as paople have heard of here .
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FF.Com.Au Hardcore
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i wasnt going to let the car go without clear title of money in my account, i just said i couldnt care where the money came from as long as it became $100 notes at the ATM
paypal suspended my account on grounds of suspicion of fraud - all good now westpac were even helpful in notifying me of any paypal payments into or from my account - until this is resolved i always said id NEVER fall for a scam....... hahahahahaha taken all the way to the front seat of the ride, thankfully thats where it ended off to the casino now, try my hand at blackjack.... easier way to make $25k
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