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Good news story for Aussie industry
https://www.caradvice.com.au/816297/...00-production/ Going flat tack at 24 hour shifts with strong demand. And they went from 1500 units made in mid 2019 to 5000 now - excellent! Edit: diesels to be in greater volumes by next year, Silverado 1500s join this line next year, and Nissan Titan conversions to begin in Epping if the comments in the article are true. We're going to make Australia America Again with massive utes!
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And who said there was no demand for big US style pick ups here.
Would love to see the bigger 2500 and 3500 dualies getting around.
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Base model RAM is good value at $80K when you take into consideration how much the upper spec Thailand specials cost with their wheezing diesel engines.
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I was talking to a bloke at Robe last week with a 1500 Laramie with the 4.5t ratio and 350ci V8, said it gives him better mileage towing his 20+ft van than anything he's owned before, I mentioned the diesel and his response was why would you when the petrol 8 gives acceptable mileage without the additional costs associated with the diesel.
Happy as a pig in **** and it easily got all the attention amongst the dualcab brigade. A sexy beast with a sweet note on idle, certainly better than the rattling diesels that surrounded it |
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and some pointed & laughed when they began the conversion program for these & laughed harder at the 24 line...
I agree with franco, If I was in the market for a duel cab, for the $$$ i'd rather have one of these than the Hilux, Rangers etc....
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Considering how popular it is to chop Patrol\Landcruiser wagons to get a large and well equipped dual cab, I'm surprised the big yank trucks aren't more in demand.
There must be a worthwhile market for, say, Toyota to make a rhd Tundra when folks are lining up around the block to pay top dollar for a Cruiser ute with an 80's interior, or even more for a 200series just to cut it in half.
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Probably not worth re-engineering a platform to be RHD friendly when they have a market the size of the USA/Canada/Mexico to service on their doorstop.
Correct me if I'm wrong but the Toyota Tundra and things like Honda Ridgeline are designed and built by their US subsidiaries right? Rather than ex Japan? Nissan Australia is in talks with their US subsidiary about a RHD variant of the Titan, if not they're discussing with Premcar for the conversion ala HSV type second stage manufacturing. |
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You'd have to factor in a GVM upgrade for the RAM 1500.
The max axle weights are pretty skinny for a truck.
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Well done, took and a punt and it is paying off so far . Great news for jobs but we will see how it works out in the longer term.
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Is the Nissan TITAN going to be a “Factory” backed conversion?
I parked next to a Ram 1500 the other day, absolutely loved it, yeah they are expensive but compared to a Ranger Raptor or Ultimate level Amarok, I see more value in one of these. |
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Nissan Australia is in discussions with Nissan USA, I'd say its unlikely the USA subsidiary would be interested in putting in the work to make it RHD out the factory.
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So yes, I'd say its 'factory backed' by Nissan Australia if they decide to go ahead. We're talking sub 5000 units per year at this stage, its a huge inconvenience to Nissan USA - the only way I'd see this on the cards is if Premcar do the conversion for Nissan Australia. |
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Talking to the elderly couple last week and it was pretty clear that they didn't choose the RAM because it could fit much in the tray, in fact they didn't have anything in the tray at all, they bought it because they could get the 4.5t towing capacity with a petrol engine.
Not everyone needs a big roof top basket, recovery tracks, a bulbar, winch, room for a couple of trail bikes etc. etc. if all you want is a vehicle for a couple of nomads and a comfortable touring van, the RAM is the perfect solution. That it looks and sounds way sexier than a Thai special is an added bonus. |
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Fuel figures aren't too far off the modern diesels in the real world, if the Cruiser and Patrol forums are true. And an auto petrol 4x4 on sand - fun!
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I think maybe instead of having a Commodore or Falcon ute and perhaps also a Cruiser or something else that is probably why these things are taking off, replacing two for one.
It's the only thing that really makes sense to me. Because if they can make it work now then why not before? |
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People realised that you could claim on tax and have this do everything vehicle the kids fit into, tow things, put some crap in the back. Like anything it takes lots of time for huge organisations like corporations to react to the market and trends we can all identify, smaller independent groups are much quicker to react to changes, they just don't have that huge level of beaucratic **** to navigate that exists in a large corporate structure. Notice that Nissan Australia has taken note of HSVs relative success with the RAM and wants to follow suit? They've sat back while HSV went all in and have waited to see the results. |
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Would a lot of it have to do with it being a tax deductible item if used for 'work'.
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The reason I bring up the Aussies utes is they always had enough to throw **** in the back and you could tow a box trailer to go with it but not the towing capacity of these trucks. Now you don't have that option.
It makes me understand why these have proven to be more popular than I originally thought. |
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My bet is the Rivian will be the 1st manufacturer to enter our market with Factory RHD.
This is why you will want one over the others. It might take road rage to whole new level. Imagine turning around like that if someone gave you the bird. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7BkxjHkOvYY In our market it will be interesting to see how close it will be in price to the RAM ect, as they have the handicap of the added cost of the conversion, verses the added cost of being electric.
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The Rivian is going to start at $69000US. That is basically $100k Aussie without factoring in getting it here plus taxes etc.
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