Dealer undercharged - Page 3

pottery beige · 25-11-2010, 01:23 PM

Morals..??.. the **** i've had to deal with at two separate Stealerships had none whatsoever.. its all about leverage and once they've got YOUR money they can be very difficult to come around on a LOT of issues you may have......

gcg2503 · 25-11-2010, 01:27 PM

Thread has left me speechless.

With you 100% ltd.

BA GT-HO · 25-11-2010, 01:31 PM

Morals!? Karma!?

The amount of crap I have had to deal with from Ford Dealers makes me feel like doing them no favours! I would tell them to rack off.

As if they would have contacted you if they overcharged you?! How many people do they rip off daily with their overpriced services, parts and low ball trade in figures?

Chalk this one up as a win for the little guy.

pottery beige · 25-11-2010, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by BA GT-HO

Morals!? Karma!?

The amount of crap I have had to deal with from Ford Dealers makes me feel like doing them no favours! I would tell them to rack off.

As if they would have contacted you if they overcharged you?! How many people do they rip off daily with their overpriced services, parts and low ball trade in figures?

Chalk this one up as a win for the little guy.

Amen brother.... all the do gooders saying its wrong have obviously never been on the recieving end of a Stealership do over.... buying the car of your dreams with a few issues then being ****** over that much so you just go away.. sleepless nights man........

auxr · 25-11-2010, 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by XlR8TED

I will end up doing the right thing, but I think I might make them sweat it a bit.

What would you guys do?

Can't believe this thread has turned into a dealership slang fest. Good lord - shaft or get shafted syndrome at it's worst.

pottery beige · 25-11-2010, 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by auxr

Can't believe this thread has turned into a dealership slang fest. Good lord - shaft or get shafted syndrome at it's worst.

dropped $70k+ on a new car recently..??.. then been thoroughly screwed over afterwards..??.......

Cabbage · 25-11-2010, 01:58 PM

Its each parties responsiblity to read and understand a contract before they sign it. They have obviously been careless when preparing the contract. You have to do what you believe is right but I think all the times the "average joe" has been caught out by the fine print in a contract to their disadvantage. If they do the right thing by you and are honest then maybe come to a compromise. If not the law is on your side.

Perhaps you should offer to pay them back the difference after you see what their customer service like during the life of the warranty on your XR5. If they treat you well pay them, if they try to stiff you keep it.

Clinton

ltd · 25-11-2010, 02:47 PM

So what, because some of you have had a bad experience thats justification to punish others? No offence, but that's really poor form. Ford dealerships are businesses. They need customers to survive. If you've had a bad experience don't go back to them - it's your choice. If they've blatantly ripped you off, go to the ford CRC and tell them, if no joy then try fair trading. The point is, everyone has options. You're not committed to go back to the one dealer, shop around.

Irregardless of dealership woes, where does it end? If we all started acting out trying to get revenge, in no time at all our civilisation would be anarchy. I know this may be trivial to some of you but if we take a stand for fairness now, then we can only hope to end the ever increasing number of rorts and rip offs that plague our society. Taking advantage of others is morally and ethically wrong, and I for one don't wish to live amongst those whose only joy is to rip people off. If you think Ford is one of the biggest crooks of our time, then show them your disapproval by selling your car/s and buying something else.

RedHotGT · 25-11-2010, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by ltd

So what, because some of you have had a bad experience thats justification to punish others? No offence, but that's really poor form. Ford dealerships are businesses. They need customers to survive. If you've had a bad experience don't go back to them - it's your choice. If they've blatantly ripped you off, go to the ford CRC and tell them, if no joy then try fair trading. The point is, everyone has options. You're not committed to go back to the one dealer, shop around.

Irregardless of dealership woes, where does it end? If we all started acting out trying to get revenge, in no time at all our civilisation would be anarchy. I know this may be trivial to some of you but if we take a stand for fairness now, then we can only hope to end the ever increasing number of rorts and rip offs that plague our society. Taking advantage of others is morally and ethically wrong, and I for one don't wish to live amongst those whose only joy is to rip people off. If you think Ford is one of the biggest crooks of our time, then show them your disapproval by selling your car/s and buying something else.

Civilisation has been spiraling towards anarchy for some time now... I could list off plenty of events in the past 12 months alone which show that we live in a selfish society where the majority are only looking out for one person... and that's themselves...

I choose to step out of sync with the majority and can only hope that I set a good enough example that my kids live their lives the same way...

As society goes down the toilet... I can only hope that i'm one of the few that manage to stay put on the seat/lid... and continue doing things the way that I believe are moral, ethical, and unselfish...

But hey - thats just me... the beauty of community is that it is made up of all sorts... the good, the bad, and the ugly...

Which are you?

Scott · 25-11-2010, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by ltd

Irregardless...

If you think Ford is one of the biggest crooks of our time, then show them your disapproval by selling your car/s and buying something else.

You had me at "irregardless"

Ford is not at question here - an allegedly lying Dealer is. "Do unto others" seems like it could very well fit this dealer if the allegations are true.

fmc351 · 25-11-2010, 03:22 PM

Its not about promoting ripping 'people' off. Its about evening a score with a particular aspect of society. Car dealers have well and truly earned themselves through the eons the title of thieves and rogues. And this one, has lied to manipulate the OP. Youre not saying 'do the right thing', youre saying they are the authority, we need to comply.

You realise were all just ranting on a forum, most will never get the chance to even the score. We just have to lube up ourselves before hand.

ltd · 25-11-2010, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by fmc351

Youre not saying 'do the right thing', youre saying they are the authority, we need to comply.

You realise were all just ranting on a forum, most will never get the chance to even the score.

Absolutely not.
I don't care the size of the organisation, as an individual you have as many rights as they do. And if you've read any of my posts in the past, you'll know just how anti compliance I am. What I'm saying is to do the ethical, moral and fair thing to do. Two wrongs never make a right; if they've lied don't pay them because of it; pay them in spite of it. The OP freely admits that he didn't pay enough. Nothing else really matters nor mitigates that fact.

auxr · 25-11-2010, 02:56 PM

Neways - just got back from church and have been blessed accordingly.

Dropped 70k on a new car -nope, I invest in other areas, but each to their own in this regard.

Maybe the OP should have worded the thread - I got screwed by a dealership, do I screw them back and by how much.

ltd · 25-11-2010, 03:08 PM

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Neways - just got back from church and have been blessed accordingly.

Umm, if you're referencing my signature then you may need remedial comprehension classes; irony is not related to doing the laundry.

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Maybe the OP should have worded the thread - I got screwed by a dealership, do I screw them back and by how much.

You've missed the point entirely.

Just because everyone else does something which is wrong doesn't make it right. Those of sound conscience know what I'm talking about.

Smoke Pursuit · 25-11-2010, 03:10 PM

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Umm, if you're referencing my signature then you may need remedial comprehension classes; irony is not related to doing the laundry.

You've missed the point entirely.

Just because everyone else does something which is wrong doesn't make it right. Those of sound conscience know what I'm talking about.

Your forgetting the fact that the dealer is LIEING to the individual here. They havent come clean..You haven't said anything about this?? So its okay for the dealer to lie to them??

ltd · 25-11-2010, 03:18 PM

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Your forgetting the fact that the dealer is LIEING to the individual here. They havent come clean..You haven't said anything about this?? So its okay for the dealer to lie to them??

I said something about the employee who made the mistake in my first post.

I'm not sure it'd be the dealer or the actual company trying to cover their behind. From the dealership I know of, the Dealer Principal would be the one saying; "find a way to fix this or else it's your job". The one embellishing and lying is most likely an individual employee concerned about their own job security, it'd be reasonable to assume their excuse wouldn't be sanctioned by the company.

For a company to lie they expose themselves to fraudulent misrepresentation leaving themselves in a very actionable position.

fmc351 · 25-11-2010, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by ltd

I said something about the employee who made the mistake in my first post.

I'm not sure it'd be the dealer or the actual company trying to cover their behind. From the dealership I know of, the Dealer Principal would be the one saying; "find a way to fix this or else it's your job". The one embellishing and lying is most likely an individual employee concerned about their own job security, it'd be reasonable to assume their excuse wouldn't be sanctioned by the company.

For a company to lie they expose themselves to fraudulent misrepresentation leaving themselves in a very actionable position.

So wait, this principal you mentioned, the nice fella who deserves fair treatment, will axe a perfectly good employee who made a mathematical boo boo, albeit a couple of g's?

Oh yeah, he sounds like a top fella.

auxr · 25-11-2010, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by ltd

Umm, if you're referencing my signature then you may need remedial comprehension classes; irony is not related to doing the laundry.

Not referencing your signature - short for any way - remedial classes not called for, further more ironing is related to the laundry.

You've missed the point entirely.

Just because everyone else does something which is wrong doesn't make it right. Those of sound conscience know what I'm talking about.

Unfortunately, you may have missed the point - re-read my responses, not condoning any form of action.

Time to move on me -thinks.

cjf · 25-11-2010, 03:10 PM

If the contract has been signed sealed and delivered by both parties, then it is a binding contract and must be honoured, no ifs buts or maybes.

ltd · 25-11-2010, 03:21 PM

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If the contract has been signed sealed and delivered by both parties, then it is a binding contract and must be honoured, no ifs buts or maybes.

All contracts have a statutory cooling off period. If you buy a brand new car, take it home and on the way it bursts into flames and is destroyed, do you think you have rights? You bet your *** you do. You're entitled to a full refund pending investigation (the cause etc).

MAD · 25-11-2010, 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by GTP006

Ford is not at question here - an allegedly lying Dealer is. "Do unto others" seems like it could very well fit this dealer if the allegations are true.

Yeah, why is it that we always have to be the "do unto others" and not the "them do to you"
j/k of course.

||| · 25-11-2010, 03:21 PM

giving money back to a ford dealer would be like handing back the money to the bank in monopoly after you get a "bank error in your favour'" card.

MAD · 25-11-2010, 03:28 PM

I dont 'revenge for the rest of society' is the ideal standpoint.
The thing with morals is a lot of the time they need to go un-noticed.
You get to sleep well at night, but the other party gets to think they got away with whatever they did.

This is an opportunity to bring it to light that the OP knows they have lied in an attempt to fix a problem. But by also wanting to do the correct thing and re-sign the new contract, he is willing to uphold his morals. One would think the dealership would be accepting of this and offer some sort of 'reward'.

fmc351 · 25-11-2010, 03:31 PM

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One would think the dealership would be accepting of this and offer some sort of 'reward'.

Bwahahahahahhahahahahahahahhahahaha SNORT hahahahahhahahahaha

b0son · 25-11-2010, 03:52 PM

Question... if customer negotiates deal A, receives and mistakenly signs a contract for deal B, will the dealer honour deal A if the customer spots the error only after contracts are signed... ?

SpoolMan · 25-11-2010, 04:17 PM

Closed , back and forth bickering and snide remarks add nothing to the thread.
I will ask the thread starter if he would like to add a final post to what happened.

Reading through the thread I can see why we have so many issues in our Sales Yard Forums in-regards to people not getting there product or misrepresentation of goods.

The take it and run attitude isn't something we should be preaching to our kids.