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Old 02-09-2021, 03:03 PM   #1
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Old 02-09-2021, 03:29 PM   #2
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Can you imagine how much insurance will be to self drive in a world full of autonomous cars. Sadly, the day will come.

Insurance companies are already wrestling with this notion and how to stay relevant in the future.

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It would take a very strong political leader to even entertain the idea of proposing a law to making driving illegal in Australia.

Most politicians prefer to get re-elected.
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It would take a very strong political leader to even entertain the idea of proposing a law to making driving illegal in Australia.



Most politicians prefer to get re-elected.
We don't have a manufacturing industry and if the rest of the world goes autonomous, we have no choice or end up looking like Cuba did for decades.

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My view of hell. Outside of a Sunday drive, I'd hate those car as a daily or even otherwise. Heavy, slow... Bah, you can have it.

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My view of hell. Outside of a Sunday drive, I'd hate those car as a daily or even otherwise. Heavy, slow... Bah, you can have it.

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And I was nearly about to post a picture of their beautiful old trucks...........slow, heavy, noisy, smelly...... oh I love them.
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We don't have a manufacturing industry and if the rest of the world goes autonomous,
Hate to break it to ya, but the world aint going autonomous.

People seem to confuse Automation and Autonomous.

Cruise-Control has been reasonably common (even in Australia) for over 30 years. Yet never has it relieved the driver of the legal obligation to not run into things. ABS braking sure made it easier to not hit the car in front, but it's still your fault in you do.
We have a car that slows down when there's a car in front, keeps the car within its lane, alerts me when I fail to control the wheel, and will emergency-brake when required. But it's STILL my fault if I have an accident.
Automated trucks are now increasing common in mining. But that's because they are Big, slow, and it doesn't make much difference. Reality is that an Automated Truck with a multitude of sensors is probably safer that a single driver with very limited visibility. They still kill cows, but human drivers did that anyway.

Also have to remember that in most of the world there is literally no pressure to replace human drivers, and in many cases the exact opposite
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Hate to break it to ya, but the world aint going autonomous.



People seem to confuse Automation and Autonomous.



Cruise-Control has been reasonably common (even in Australia) for over 30 years. Yet never has it relieved the driver of the legal obligation to not run into things. ABS braking sure made it easier to not hit the car in front, but it's still your fault in you do.

We have a car that slows down when there's a car in front, keeps the car within its lane, alerts me when I fail to control the wheel, and will emergency-brake when required. But it's STILL my fault if I have an accident.

Automated trucks are now increasing common in mining. But that's because they are Big, slow, and it doesn't make much difference. Reality is that an Automated Truck with a multitude of sensors is probably safer that a single driver with very limited visibility. They still kill cows, but human drivers did that anyway.



Also have to remember that in most of the world there is literally no pressure to replace human drivers, and in many cases the exact opposite
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Govco can't get rid of smoking/vaping, alcohol or illicit drugs.........
There's a reason for this and it isn't financial !

I like the idea of a Cuba style future, more effort put into looking after your aging vehicle

Self driving cars could end up like mobile phones, thrown away because "oh look, there's the new shiny model"
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It would take a very strong political leader to even entertain the idea of proposing a law to making driving illegal in Australia.

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You mean like Commissar McGowan? The man who keeps us safe from all things including ourselves in Western Australia.
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But but it’s for your safety. The overlords will decided what you can and can’t do since society is happy for the government to do whatever they want.

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Yeeeah, that's a big claim. Even as a teched myself I just don't see the technology matured enough in that timeframe. TL;DR - car makers are struggling with it.

I expect some form of autonomous driving over the next 20 years but outlawing completely? I just don't see it any time soon. Though by 2050 i couldn't care less.
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Long before drivers become illegal, we’ll see automation assistance in slow moving traffic, where cars around each other will communicate and move together like bees or ants so everyone moves in turn and gets away from choke points quicker. That’s where AV will shine.
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I can see a new subforum - autonomous vehicle hacks.
How-to manual conversion.
How-to lane changing hack.
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Well TF I won't be around then, or if I am I'm sitting in a chair looking out a window dribbling, wearing a nappy.
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Never happen, John Connor will sort it out...
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Thank goodness I'll be dead and gone by then...
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Thank goodness I'll be dead and gone by then...
reckon the world will be well and truly cooked by then just quietly
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Thank goodness I'll be dead and gone by then...
same
in a fiery car crash after they have chased me trying to get my non driverless car
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in a fiery car crash after they have chased me trying to get my non driverless car
*plays 'red barchetta' by Rush
(I prefer the short story that inspired it but forgot the name).

E: " A nice morning drive" by Richard Foster

Seriously though, there will be bigger problems by 2050.
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Same here
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I'd Love to Know what Vested Interest Funded the Survey, & if they had a Preferred Outcome. For The Said research..
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Fck me imagine a driverless car race.....
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